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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 16:38:29
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Skillful Swordsman
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Not sure if anyone has thought about this yet but why are there no females, there has to be at least one or two fiery ones who would have stood up to chaos and be rewarded by sigmar for it. I always thought he would be an equal opportunities employer.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 16:41:41
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Apparently Josh Reynolds asked the question (according to his blog) and they didn't say no there are not any .........................
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 16:50:15
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Skillful Swordsman
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They would have looked nice as prosecutors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 16:55:52
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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I honestly think the question never occurred to them.....................
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 17:11:46
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Dakka Veteran
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To be chosen by the Man-God Sigmar for the honour of reforging into a Stormcast Eternal one must have been strong in their mortal life and call out to Sigmar for help. Apparently no strong woman have been able to do the latter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 17:15:23
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Dakka Veteran
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I think it's a bit of a pointless subject but weren't the Stormcast forged in Sigmar's likeness, so they all look somewhat like him?
I'm interested in the Fyreslayers being a patriarchal society, and it kind of makes me hope to see a new faction at some point of a matriarchy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 17:19:22
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I thought that in the fluff all races and sexes could be (and are) Stormcast, they just all get re-made into a uniform shape when they are "forged."
I do agree that having some variation in the Stormcast models would kick serious ass, I'd love to see Gobbos, Halflings, Elf, and Dwarf Stormcast models. (with male and female variants.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 17:22:02
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Stitch Counter
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A little bit of green stuff and you can have female stormcasts
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Thousand Sons: 3850pts / Space Marines Deathwatch 5000pts / Dark Eldar Webway Corsairs 2000pts / Scrapheap Challenged Orks 1500pts / Black Death 1500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 17:44:49
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sigmar's followers may seem like men on the outside, but inside, they see themselves as brightly colored magic ponies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 18:02:11
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Because they are iron robots and what soul on the inside doesnt matter. So they are all women but you can put a iron nipple and boob if you need that to be a woman.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 18:05:36
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Skillful Swordsman
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OgreChubbs wrote:Because they are iron robots and what soul on the inside doesnt matter. So they are all women but you can put a iron nipple and boob if you need that to be a woman.
Sounds like good idea :-)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 18:22:50
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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pox wrote:I thought that in the fluff all races and sexes could be (and are) Stormcast, they just all get re-made into a uniform shape when they are "forged."
I do agree that having some variation in the Stormcast models would kick serious ass, I'd love to see Gobbos, Halflings, Elf, and Dwarf Stormcast models. (with male and female variants.)
This. They mentioned men, women, elves, dwarfs, and orcs all being selected as Stormcast...and then for whatever reason they all get reforged into wannabe Space Marines. Huge missed opportunity, both from a modeling perspective and an in-universe perspective. Imagine what would happen if a Sigmarine showed up to an orc tribe - a valuable asset in battling Chaos - and requested their help.
Now imagine what would happen if an orc in dead 'ard armor (okay, maybe it's gold, but it's got proppa dents and glyphs on it so you know it's orcy) turned up, kicked the local warboss' head in, and ordered the others to go show the spiky git in the castle next door what happens when he thinks he can lord it over da boyz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/07 20:07:51
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Spinner wrote: pox wrote:I thought that in the fluff all races and sexes could be (and are) Stormcast, they just all get re-made into a uniform shape when they are "forged."
I do agree that having some variation in the Stormcast models would kick serious ass, I'd love to see Gobbos, Halflings, Elf, and Dwarf Stormcast models. (with male and female variants.)
This. They mentioned men, women, elves, dwarfs, and orcs all being selected as Stormcast...and then for whatever reason they all get reforged into wannabe Space Marines. Huge missed opportunity, both from a modeling perspective and an in-universe perspective. Imagine what would happen if a Sigmarine showed up to an orc tribe - a valuable asset in battling Chaos - and requested their help.
Now imagine what would happen if an orc in dead 'ard armor (okay, maybe it's gold, but it's got proppa dents and glyphs on it so you know it's orcy) turned up, kicked the local warboss' head in, and ordered the others to go show the spiky git in the castle next door what happens when he thinks he can lord it over da boyz.
Sold! BRB, gonna go make some 'Marboyz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 00:23:47
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Sqorgar wrote:Sigmar's followers may seem like men on the outside, but inside, they see themselves as brightly colored magic ponies.
Shhhh... Nobody is meant to know
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 08:07:51
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Tough Treekin
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Oh God. Now waiting for the Tumblr posts haranguing GW for not referring to Stormcast as Trans-Stormcast.
The perils of endless lifetimes of war is bad enough, but when they can't even be bothered to try to avoid mis-gendering/mis-racing you...
#notallstormcast #stormcastlivesmatter
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 19:10:41
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Charging Dragon Prince
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RoperPG wrote:
Oh God. Now waiting for the Tumblr posts haranguing GW for not referring to Stormcast as Trans-Stormcast.
The perils of endless lifetimes of war is bad enough, but when they can't even be bothered to try to avoid mis-gendering/mis-racing you...
#notallstormcast #stormcastlivesmatter
Hahahaha, so good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 19:27:38
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Powerful Spawning Champion
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Spinner wrote:Now imagine what would happen if an orc in dead 'ard armor (okay, maybe it's gold, but it's got proppa dents and glyphs on it so you know it's orcy) turned up, kicked the local warboss' head in, and ordered the others to go show the spiky git in the castle next door what happens when he thinks he can lord it over da boyz.
This is the sort of thing I want to see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 20:09:24
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Nasty Nob
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toasteroven wrote: Spinner wrote:Now imagine what would happen if an orc in dead 'ard armor (okay, maybe it's gold, but it's got proppa dents and glyphs on it so you know it's orcy) turned up, kicked the local warboss' head in, and ordered the others to go show the spiky git in the castle next door what happens when he thinks he can lord it over da boyz.
This is the sort of thing I want to see.
Agreed. I would play that game! Quick, someone get a Kickstarter going!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 20:49:08
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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RoperPG wrote:
Oh God. Now waiting for the Tumblr posts haranguing GW for not referring to Stormcast as Trans-Stormcast.
The perils of endless lifetimes of war is bad enough, but when they can't even be bothered to try to avoid mis-gendering/mis-racing you...
#notallstormcast #stormcastlivesmatter
It's sad that this is why the thread exist in the first place."My fantasy must be PC! you know like medieval times were"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 20:56:36
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Edgecoc wrote: It's sad that this is why the thread exist in the first place."My fantasy must be PC! you know like medieval times were" Pretty sure there were no Sigmarines in the "Medieval Ages". So I don't really know what you are talking about. Warhammer Ageo of Sigmar has never been a historical wargame at all. The old world was fantasy, and this is completely different and soooo far away from the Medieval Times (whatever that means). The old world had female characters and it does seem a valid criticism that the sigmarines are all the same, whether that be gender or race. Or we could listen to you are you are clearly an Age of SIgmar guru who knows alot about where women should be present.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 21:01:57
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Edgecoc wrote:It's sad that this is why the thread exist in the first place."My fantasy must be PC! you know like medieval times were"
You think a game where you have to roll for dysentery at the start of every battle would be superior to one with female soldiers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 21:03:16
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Edgecoc wrote: It's sad that this is why the thread exist in the first place."My fantasy must be PC! you know like medieval times were" It's not PC to question why there is not representation of the female gender in a high fantasy tabletop wargame. High fantasy settings have had many kickass women in them, for many years, probably even from their very beginnings. They even appeared in GW fiction (Lhunara in the Malus Darkblade novels, for example). That GW appear to have forgotten that when it came time to design their new faction, which then ended up being a pretty lazy insert of their other main "hero" faction, is a bit infuriating.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 21:06:48
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Powerful Spawning Champion
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Is... is there even anything in AoS that resembles medieval times? AoS is far more a mythological setting. Plenty of room for warrior women there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 21:50:08
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Posts with Authority
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OgreChubbs wrote:Because they are iron robots and what soul on the inside doesnt matter. So they are all women but you can put a iron nipple and boob if you need that to be a woman.
This! They could be anything under those giant slabs of bronze... or iron, or whatever.
And y'know, the 'whiny' tumblrs I know would possibly be fine with that. If any conversion's needed, it might just be a bit of gap-filling between those big golden He-Man pecs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 22:03:25
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Been Around the Block
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Ok so here is a question for the crowd. How do you know that the stormcast eternals are male or female by their armor? I mean, there is a ghost inside the armor (kind of). Do you really want boob armor? If this is about being PC, then boob armor is kinda the opposite to what we want to see right? An armor that is worse than the male equivalent just to show feminine physique = No thank you. If this is not a PC question, but rather a question to call out the creators on their lack of female characters, I think the Stormcast is the worst possible example you could ever think of. The model represents equality beyond race and sex. It might actually be the most PC model ever (Next to genderless ghosts and the like). Damn guys, you could have named empire which would have been a MUCH better example... Come on. There could be alot of innocent explanation for the lack of women soldiers in the empire, like wanting to mirror our own history in a fantastical setting, but still.
Oh and another little fun fact about warhammer. Alot of the 'not including women' in warhammer stems from the difficulty one encounters when sculpting feminine physique without making pin up dolls. It is a hassle to do which is why they only really did so on elf troops where the faces look similar enough that you can just switch out the chest piece of the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 22:29:08
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Andreas 2.0 wrote:Oh and another little fun fact about warhammer. Alot of the 'not including women' in warhammer stems from the difficulty one encounters when sculpting feminine physique without making pin up dolls. It is a hassle to do which is why they only really did so on elf troops where the faces look similar enough that you can just switch out the chest piece of the model.
Source for the above? Or just another misinformed assertion?
I think you are mistaking unwillingness to sculpt for difficulty in doing so.
As to the rest of your post, I don't think the OP wants pin up dolls, and this is a background question primarily, as in "Why haven't we heard about female stormcast yet?" where another person gave the separate but related wish of having an orc-style stormcast. The majority don't want boob-plated stormcast as that would be silly. An acknowledgement of their existence however would be quite cool. It would help to educate juvenile minds that you don't need to add watermelon scale breasts to a miniature to make it female. Education of the wargaming community in this could be quite beneficial, and the inclusion of such troops would increase the popularity of the game. I don't understand why GW didn't take the opportunity here.
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Baron, don't forget to talk about the SEALs and Marines you habitually beat up on 2 and 3 at a time, as you PM'd me about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 22:50:14
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Andreas 2.0 wrote:Ok so here is a question for the crowd. How do you know that the stormcast eternals are male or female by their armor? I mean, there is a ghost inside the armor (kind of). Do you really want boob armor? If this is about being PC, then boob armor is kinda the opposite to what we want to see right? An armor that is worse than the male equivalent just to show feminine physique = No thank you. If this is not a PC question, but rather a question to call out the creators on their lack of female characters, I think the Stormcast is the worst possible example you could ever think of. The model represents equality beyond race and sex. It might actually be the most PC model ever (Next to genderless ghosts and the like). Damn guys, you could have named empire which would have been a MUCH better example... Come on. There could be alot of innocent explanation for the lack of women soldiers in the empire, like wanting to mirror our own history in a fantastical setting, but still. Oh and another little fun fact about warhammer. Alot of the 'not including women' in warhammer stems from the difficulty one encounters when sculpting feminine physique without making pin up dolls. It is a hassle to do which is why they only really did so on elf troops where the faces look similar enough that you can just switch out the chest piece of the model. The problem stems from the fact that there is also no reason for the models to have been sculpted as outwardly male either. You can have cool looking warriors representing a god without having to sculpt male pecs and abs into their armour. There is zero reason to have those muscles sculpted on. Also, woman in plate mail =/= boob armour. That kind of thinking makes Brienne of Tarth angry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 23:00:19
Subject: Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Been Around the Block
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Old miniature magazines with sculpting articles (You can most likely find a ton at the local library). This is/was a quite wellknown problem before computer sculpting.
I don't understand the rest of what you are saying? Missed oppertunity for what? Female stormcast are acknowledged. Sigmar uses souls to make his soldiers. He doesn't care about their gender and whether their look represents their former selves. Why is that a problem? There are so many other places you could criticize GW for slacking, and in future releases it would be a pleasure to see more female models. But here, seriously?
And on the political subject about educating the youth - Do you honestly expect a corporation to give a damn about anything, if it is not a monetary interest? I mean, making female models may help sell to women, which could be a brilliant idea, but educating young boys is not something a company like GW would normally think about since they have a responsibility to their investors above all else. Not unless there is some evidence to suggest a growth in sales at least. Contrary to popular belief, a forum with opinions on the subject is not evidence enough.
So while most would think that female models could very possibly be an asset to GW, this might not be the right time to introduce the idea. We just got a rather negative half-year report from GW, and spending a lot of time on something this uncertain, could be considered irresponsible.
EDIT: On the subject of the male stormcast.. They have no boobs or penises. They are genderless and broadshouldered and bald and whatever. They are just an image of what sigmar considers a supersoldier.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/09 00:16:01
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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MasterSlowPoke wrote:Edgecoc wrote:It's sad that this is why the thread exist in the first place."My fantasy must be PC! you know like medieval times were"
You think a game where you have to roll for dysentery at the start of every battle would be superior to one with female soldiers?
would you get a save if you are near an outhouse or other porta potty?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/09 00:53:13
Subject: Re:Female Stormcast Eternals?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Edgecoc wrote:RoperPG wrote: Oh God. Now waiting for the Tumblr posts haranguing GW for not referring to Stormcast as Trans-Stormcast. The perils of endless lifetimes of war is bad enough, but when they can't even be bothered to try to avoid mis-gendering/mis-racing you... #notallstormcast #stormcastlivesmatter It's sad that this is why the thread exist in the first place."My fantasy must be PC! you know like medieval times were" Or, you know, they've mentioned in the background that women can become Stormcast, and it seems odd that everyone who becomes a Stormcast is turned into a Sigmarine regardless of race or gender. Almost as if they wanted to make the job as easy on the sculptors as possible, regardless of how boring the finished army would look... EDIT: On the subject of the male stormcast.. They have no boobs or penises. They are genderless and broadshouldered and bald and whatever. They are just an image of what sigmar considers a supersoldier. Which looks like Sigmar (who..looks like a dude, are you sure they're genderless?), funnily enough. More fuel for the ' AoS Sigmar is a self-centered narcissistic jerk' fire  Chaos overrunning everything because I got too busy throwing a tantrum at Nagash to help? Fine, I'll take my toys and go to Azyrheim and make everyone awesome look like me! On a related note, I'd like to point out that the Old World had the Sisters of Sigmar, and I'm fairly certain branches of the Cult of Myrmidia had quite a few female warriors.
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