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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/20 20:41:46
Subject: Alpha Legion 2500 Coils with Dynat - HELP!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Alright guys, I have played a fair few games with Alpha legion, never used Coils in a game before though.
I have started to put together a list however I have hit a brick wall so to speak. Ill give you my current list, and then explain what my problem is.
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Dynat
Command Squad + 2 additional Marines
Standard Bearer
2x Power Sword
3x Power Fist
Land Raider Proteus w/ Heavy Bolters
Centriuon (W/ Command Squad)
- Chaplain
- Artificer Armour
- Refractor Field
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ELITES
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Apothecary (w/ Command Squad)
- Power Sword
- Artificer Armour
Contemptor Mortis
- Twin Assault Cannons
Tyrant Siege Terminator Squad (Deepstrike from Dynat)
- +5 Terminators (10 total)
- Power Dagger
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TROOPS
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3x Tactical Squad (all 3 are identical)
- Additional Close Combat Weapons
- Power Fist
- Power Dagger
- Vexilla
- Artificer Armour
- Rhino
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HEAVY SUPPORT
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Sicaran
- Lascannons
So this list currently comes to 2335 pts.
I have the following issues:
- Dynat and the Command Squad are in a Landraider WITHOUT assault vehicle - this is really not ideal. I need to give them a dedicated transport to get around the RoW restriction, or I need to waste my Mutable tactic on infiltrate (which really is not what I want to do). Or alternatively, I just have to take the dedicated transport. Could spend 35 points on a rhino and leave it empty then use a heavy support slot to get the Landraider with Assault Vehicle. Alternatively I could drop the command squad and stick Dynat with something shootier (seekers perhaps?) and then the Land Raider doesn't matter so much.
- What do I spend my last points on? Upgrade for the Rhinos (multi meltas)? Land Speeders?
- Have I kitted out my tacticals too much? Is a vexilla worth it with only 10 dudes?
- Do you reckon I have sufficient Anti Armour? If a Flare Shielded Sicaran drops my Siege Tyrants can't scratch it. Could run a 5 man Melta support squad - but again I run into the transport issue if i do this.
Any help/Feedback would be appreciated!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/20 21:24:27
Subject: Re:Alpha Legion 2500 Coils with Dynat - HELP!
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Have you considered veterans instead of the command squad? They are nearly as good when upgraded for CC.
I considered this:
HQ:
Armillus Dynat
Centurion, Forge Lord, Rad-Grenades
Troops:
3x Identical Tactical Squads, with Rhinos, artificer armour (sergeant) and a meltabomb (sergeant)
Elites:
Apothecary
Contemptor Mortis, Assault Cannons
Tyrant Siege Terminators, (5 Additional terminators for a total of 10)
Veteran Tactical Squad, Weaponsmasters (+1 WS), meltabombs, Rhino, Venom Spheres
Heavy Support:
Sicarian Battle Tank, Lascannons
Spartan AAV
Comes in at 2345, giving you points for power weapons on the veterans, space for another HQ, upgrades for the Spartan or extra armour and combi-bolters for the rhinos.
The ROW only requires you to possess a dedicated transport for each infantry squad, but they do not have to actually use it.
The Forge Lord grants access to Rad-Grenades, which, with Venom Spheres, should spoil people's day.
Meltabombs on the sergeants and krak grenades allow you to make use of Tank Hunters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 19:38:48
Subject: Re:Alpha Legion 2500 Coils with Dynat - HELP!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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DaemonJellybaby wrote:Have you considered veterans instead of the command squad? They are nearly as good when upgraded for CC.
I considered this:
HQ:
Armillus Dynat
Centurion, Forge Lord, Rad-Grenades
Troops:
3x Identical Tactical Squads, with Rhinos, artificer armour (sergeant) and a meltabomb (sergeant)
Elites:
Apothecary
Contemptor Mortis, Assault Cannons
Tyrant Siege Terminators, (5 Additional terminators for a total of 10)
Veteran Tactical Squad, Weaponsmasters (+1 WS), meltabombs, Rhino, Venom Spheres
Heavy Support:
Sicarian Battle Tank, Lascannons
Spartan AAV
Comes in at 2345, giving you points for power weapons on the veterans, space for another HQ, upgrades for the Spartan or extra armour and combi-bolters for the rhinos.
The ROW only requires you to possess a dedicated transport for each infantry squad, but they do not have to actually use it.
The Forge Lord grants access to Rad-Grenades, which, with Venom Spheres, should spoil people's day.
Meltabombs on the sergeants and krak grenades allow you to make use of Tank Hunters
Always forget vets can be kitted out for CC - I'd just be losing the banner and artificer armour though, not sure if I want to do that? I think I can almost justify the 35 points to take an empty rhino and then run them in the Landraider that I wanted to run though....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/21 22:40:57
Subject: Alpha Legion 2500 Coils with Dynat - HELP!
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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At the end of the day, its only a 35pt 'tax' rhino and the Land Raider (Phobos) give you a bit more anti-tank.
I've never tried doing a command squad, I feel that they arent as good as melee veterans with a couple of characters. Automatically Appended Next Post: HQ
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Dynat
Command Squad + 2 additional Marines
Standard Bearer
2x Power Sword
3x Power Fist
Rhino (Left Empty)
Centriuon (W/ Command Squad)
- Chaplain
- Artificer Armour
- Refractor Field
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ELITES
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Apothecary (w/ Command Squad)
- Power Sword
- Artificer Armour
Contemptor Mortis
- Twin Assault Cannons
Tyrant Siege Terminator Squad (Deepstrike from Dynat)
- +5 Terminators (10 total)
- Power Dagger
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TROOPS
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3x Tactical Squad (all 3 are identical)
- Additional Close Combat Weapons
- Power Fist
- Power Dagger
- Vexilla
- Artificer Armour
- Rhino
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HEAVY SUPPORT
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Sicaran
- Lascannons
Land Raider Phobos
-Armoured Ceramite
Total (Approximately): 2410?
I'd still get extra armour for all the rhinos (+20) just so they dont stop for crew stunned results.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/22 03:48:02
Subject: Alpha Legion 2500 Coils with Dynat - HELP!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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AHh yes, ignoring crew stunned would be very useful I spose, I have never really bothered with extra armour before.
I am still tempted to stick some multi meltas on the rhinos with tactical squads - could mean the tacticals rhinos draw some anti tank fire and let the command squad land raider last longer!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/22 09:22:31
Subject: Alpha Legion 2500 Coils with Dynat - HELP!
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Dakka Veteran
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You could drop the sicaran and get a phobos instead, using the phobos as a transport for the command squad, buy the proteus as a dedicated transport and use it to mess with reserves/as a shooting platform.
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