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GW previewed the Impulsor!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/14/act-on-impulsegw-homepage-post-3/


OK - so the full rules are there.
I haven't seen them but...

"Act on impulse!"


Simple poll.

Look at the rules.
OP or NOT OP, that is the question.

Looks like a big "lol screw you guys" to the AdMech's Dunerider, it's everything we wanted it to be, amped up to 11. Just the 6 man capacity would be a little light for AdMech.

I hope it's T6 because of the open-top, because we got a T6 Dunerider for this "reason".

I honestly thought it'd just be a flying rhino but it seems it's got a lot more going for it. Whether it's OP or not is to be determined.

 jeff white wrote:
Understandably, not all is known...
points wise, etc.

Everything is known - it's in the Codex.

4 posts before someone knows that we have the full rules already... wow

Anyway, its guns are very limited. Marines don't really desire transports in competitive play (lack of Primaris assault units) and the ones you want to transport (Agressors) can't go in it.

I suspect it will see little top level competitive play.

If it had +2 inv till it loses a wound, like DE stuff, then it would be OP. If it was a brutal gunboat then it would be OP. It is a normal transport, which may or may not find its way in to people armies. It for sure ain't a unit you have to have in marine army.

 Ordana wrote:
4 posts before someone knows that we have the full rules already... wow

It's a Marine vehicle - no one plays or cares about Marines!

Not op.

Situational with some niche uses.

beast_gts wrote:

 jeff white wrote:
Understandably, not all is known...
points wise, etc.

Everything is known - it's in the Codex.

OK. my bad - have not seen that codex,
only saw the online preview today.

I think it’s probably a little underpriced for what it is. I also think they got a little crazy when adding the special rules and options, but that’s GW and Primaris these days. But not at OP levels.

The huge problem is what to put in it. Primaris infantry have good range on their guns and don’t really need to be close. We’re not talking melta/flamer squads here. Best use is to drop hellblasters off in rapid fire range.

Not OP but I'll say I've had good luck with hellblasters and a Lt with the Gulliman level rerolls against a single target. It's a good setup for killing a key unit

keep in mind you can't put gravis in it, so anyone worried about them being insaely good, "Agressor trucks" proably doesn't need to worry. With the "beta bolter rules" getting your basic bolter marines into close range ASAP isn't that important. it's primary role will be rapid re-deployment of infantry to take objectives.. and as hellblaster sucide sleds. the latter is gonna be dangerous yes, but if you can't handle a 5 man squad of hellblasters hitting you early, you need to re-examine your army.

It would actually be a better vehicle for Sisters (or Silence or battle) who do need to get quite close in

I donlt have the newest Codex - is it open topped or similar allowing firing out of it?

I's a transport in an edition that hates transport.

It also seems to be unable to transport anything but primaris bolter marines and helblasters, so I'm not too sure it actually has any use unless there is a combo I'm missing.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I donlt have the newest Codex - is it open topped or similar allowing firing out of it?

Not open-topped, but it is an Assault Vehicle -

Assault Vehicle: After this model moves in your Movement phase, if this model did not Advance, any units embarked aboard it can disembark. Units that do so cannot be chosen to charge with that turn.

As others have said, it seems like it is really good until you realize you don't really have much (both unit type and unit size) you can transport with it.

In my army, I already drop Reivers (I just like them) in on Grav-Chutes and make use of Auto Bolt Rifle Intercessors (my chapter uses Rapid Assault). I even have Infiltrators I want be on the other side of the table. I like keeping my Hellblasters at arm's length since I already have a bunch of other stuff that can get close. The only thing I would like transport are Aggerssors which can't use the Impulsor anyways. I also have a Repulsor and Repulsor Excutioner in my army if I want to try and protect some squads.

I am planning on getting one Impulsor along with a Squad of Incursors. I will try it out, I just don't see it serving much of a role in the way I built my army.

5 Hellblasters + Primaris Librarian with Null Zone to bring down key units seems the way to go for me.

Incredibly OP I can't believe this thing is only 95 pts.

 vict0988 wrote:
Incredibly OP I can't believe this thing is only 95 pts.

It's 79 points base, and none of the upgrades make it 95?

Which upgrade makes you think it's OP?

Hellblasters with HQ support or Veteran Intercessors with a hammer Sarge.

With those being the strongest options, then I'd say they're totally not OP.

Karol wrote:
If it had +2 inv till it loses a wound, like DE stuff, then it would be OP. If it was a brutal gunboat then it would be OP. It is a normal transport, which may or may not find its way in to people armies. It for sure ain't a unit you have to have in marine army.

Wait..do you think DE have shadowfields on vehicles? Because they do not have that. A shadowfield is just a thing on one HQ choice, and it is solidly worse than the Storm Shields you can put on pretty much any SM HQ because of that whole "can't reroll it and when it's gone it's gone."

 Mr Morden wrote:
It would actually be a better vehicle for Sisters (or Silence or battle) who do need to get quite close in

Sisters of Silence in a flying rhino? Madness.


In terms of being OP - if I could pay 8 points to give my rhino chassis the fly keyword and the various other bonuses I would every time... but rhinos are also a long, long way short of overpowered.

It's best use is actual zooming a libby into place. Or getting an intercessor squad into assault. You'd be better off deep striking interceptors over hellblasters.

Poll needs an option for "havent read the units rules yet"!

Lemondish wrote:
Hellblasters with HQ support or Veteran Intercessors with a hammer Sarge.

With those being the strongest options, then I'd say they're totally not OP.

And not even the hammer vets as they can't charge coming out of it. White Scars are the ones who can pop out aggressors from a Repulsor though.

 Xenomancers wrote:
It's best use is actual zooming a libby into place. Or getting an intercessor squad into assault. You'd be better off deep striking interceptors over hellblasters.

Driving a librarian into someone's face just to have him cast null zone might be one of the few things that might actually be worth doing.

 Ratius wrote:
Poll needs an option for "havent read the units rules yet"!

No model no rules!

People are talking about Hellblasters in an Impulsor.

It's cheaper and better to teleport in Inceptors.

If it could transport 12 and/or aggressors it would have a use but the transport capacity is too small at it's price point.

 Ishagu wrote:
People are talking about Hellblasters in an Impulsor.

It's cheaper and better to teleport in Inceptors.

It can be used to fly over and then walk up to a character or vulnerable unit, but it would be rare for that to work better than some snipers.