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2024/10/05 09:53:07
Subject: Re:MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Huge Bone Giant
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I like the comedy parts. The rest isn't for me, but doesn't bother me either.
No idea where it's going or, really, what exactly I'm watching. Hopefully there's an interesting finale.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2024/10/07 20:05:18
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Episode four felt a bit weak. The curse was kind of stupid.
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2024/10/07 20:52:05
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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I caught Deadpool and Wolverine at last now that it's on digital.
And I gotta say, I fething love this movie. I won't call it a great movie. It's... not perfect, but just the kind of movie that it is? This is my fething movie. Just top to bottom meta references and humor that is at times insidiously clever. That is my jam. The movie sometimes puts the tail on the donkey way too hard. Sometimes its jumbled or just a collection of parts that don't entirely work, but honestly? I take a lot of those flaws as a reinforcement of what I love about the movie.
It's just one giant love letter to pre-MCU super hero films. Particularly the films of the 00s before Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America began building the MCU.
I lost my gak when I saw that Wesley Snipes was in this. And Electra. And just the epic references to the Tatum Gambit movie that never happened.
I don't really care about this movie's flaws. They're there. I see them. I just couldn't give a gak over how much this movie seems to have been made with me as its target audience and I am completely onboard.
For a normal person, this is maybe a 7 or 8 out of 10 movie.
For someone who grew up on the off-kilter, awkward, and flawed era of early super hero movies coming out of New Line or Fox studios before the MCU got rolling, this movie is like a thank you and a send off to an era of films that was itself fundamentally flawed but nonetheless part of my formative years. 10/10.
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2024/10/07 20:58:57
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I’d argue it’s a well deserved swan song for that era.
Fox was kind of a careless owner, with a highly confusing and majorly uneven X-Men series, and more than a few lack lustre entries (oh hey, Daredevil)
D&W absolutely goes further than simply poking fun, but still in a respectful way, recognising that without all that came before? We likely wouldn’t have got the MCU as we know it today.
If Blade and X-Men hadn’t proven the appeal of Super Hero Movies, and that the genre can withstand more than 1:1 adaptations? I don’t think we’d have got Phase 1 at all.
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2024/10/07 21:24:48
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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I appreciate the very special care it takes to mock what was flawed in the films of yesteryear, but celebrating the passion of cast and crew in making them. That they brought in Snipes, Garner, and Tatum and even Evans back as Johnny Storm feels like it's just one giant 'thank you' to actors and actress' who starred in these movies and either gave them their charm, or couldn't have saved those films if they'd given all star performances. I saw Toad, Psylock and a bunch of other one-off characters in there too. I'll have to go through the credits to see how many of them were played by the OG actors and actress' who actually played them in past films.
That the entire plot is a reference to how Wolverine was the only thing in the X-Men films that consistently worked is both hilarious and a biting jab at the failure to actually succeed with the IPs they were sitting on.
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2024/10/08 11:21:58
Subject: Re:MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Huge Bone Giant
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I watched Deadpool and Wolverine last night. It's good fun. Glad it turned out so well.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2024/10/08 13:45:15
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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LordofHats wrote:That they brought in Snipes, Garner, and Tatum and even Evans back as Johnny Storm feels like it's just one giant 'thank you' to actors and actress' who starred in these movies and either gave them their charm, or couldn't have saved those films if they'd given all star performances. I saw Toad, Psylock and a bunch of other one-off characters in there too. I'll have to go through the credits to see how many of them were played by the OG actors and actress' who actually played them in past films.
I'm pretty sure they're almost entirely the originals. Part of why the movie works so well is it really doesn't feel like anyone is there for the paycheck. Everyone seems legitimately excited to leave their mark on characters they played once upon a time.
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2024/10/08 14:37:29
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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It’s a different actor for Sabretooth, I know that much.
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2024/10/08 14:44:58
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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It's the guy who played Sabretooth in the original X-Men film from 2000.
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2024/10/08 16:43:56
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I think it was Juggernaught that had a different actor? I recall a minor hubaloo about the original guy saying they never asked him to do this one, he’d have loved to do this one. So yeah, not all of them are the originals.
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2024/10/08 17:28:26
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Lieutenant General
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AduroT wrote:I think it was Juggernaught that had a different actor? I recall a minor hubaloo about the original guy saying they never asked him to do this one, he’d have loved to do this one. So yeah, not all of them are the originals.
There's been a few actors that have portrayed or been offered (and did not appear) in the role of Juggernaut in film. Vinnie Jones (who portrayed Juggernaut in X-Men: The Last Stand) was offered the role but turned it down with the role going to Aaron W. Reed.
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2024/10/08 17:31:01
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Ahh, yeah, I was thinking of Juggernaut. My bad.
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2024/10/08 17:35:44
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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They didn't get back Gambit's original actor either
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2024/10/08 17:40:41
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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I guess an upside is that we’re far enough along the superhero track these days that there’ll be a healthy crop of new viewers who haven’t really seen the early attempts.
I’d be surprised if, especially with D+ hosting most if not all of them now, those older films stand to find new converts as a result of D&W.
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2024/10/08 17:48:02
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Norn Queen
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My understanding is Vinnie Jones didn't want to put back on the rubber arms they made him wear in The Last Stand. Had a generally bad time playing the character back then and not interested in reprising.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2024/10/08 22:23:55
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
USA
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Tatum as Gambit is a deep cut, and they reference it.
When Gambit in the movie jokingly says 'I might have been born here' he's referring to how Tatum was slotted to star in a Gambit movie, but the movie was never made. His role really feels like he's just there to play a character he wanted to play but never got the chance to.
It's so incredibly fitting that 'woo I'm bout to make a name for myself here' has become a meme XD Tatum seems to have really wanted to play Gambit from the bottom of his heart, and this movie gave him the chance to do so.
I still thing the first is the best Deadpool but this movie very much feels like a work of pure passion.
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2024/10/08 22:53:59
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I think 3 was actually the best. I am sad that X-Force basically dissolved and that they did nothing with his lady but the actual story they told and the way it was done was just perfect. Especially for someone who grew up going to opening nights of those original hero movies in their teens.
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2024/10/09 07:48:41
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fireknife Shas'el
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The montage over the end credits was genuinely heartfelt and definitely made the cinema a little dusty.
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2024/10/09 13:28:17
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jadenim wrote:The montage over the end credits was genuinely heartfelt and definitely made the cinema a little dusty.
The song had me laughing as much as anything. What a perfect way to set a montage to that era. Automatically Appended Next Post: LordofHats wrote:
Tatum as Gambit is a deep cut, and they reference it.
When Gambit in the movie jokingly says 'I might have been born here' he's referring to how Tatum was slotted to star in a Gambit movie, but the movie was never made. His role really feels like he's just there to play a character he wanted to play but never got the chance to.
It's so incredibly fitting that 'woo I'm bout to make a name for myself here' has become a meme XD Tatum seems to have really wanted to play Gambit from the bottom of his heart, and this movie gave him the chance to do so.
I still thing the first is the best Deadpool but this movie very much feels like a work of pure passion.
Oh, for sure. I just like to remind people someone else played Gambit once upon a time.
I do think the first is the best with this a close second. My one main gripe with it is just that Deadpool's supporting cast doesn't get to do anything and in particular this is the third straight movie about getting Vanessa back. That is the most done dirty character I've seen in ages.
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2024/10/17 15:04:31
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Norn Queen
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Agatha continues to kill it. This episode was mostly flashback to teens history. As a result there is basically no forward momentum for the main story but god damn was it good. Neat version of seeing the MCU version of this/these characters origins.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2024/10/17 16:09:44
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Yup. I’m really enjoying it. Might do a binge this weekend.
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2024/10/18 14:41:01
Subject: Re:MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Huge Bone Giant
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I think I would have enjoyed it more if...
Not a complaint about the show itself, mind. Just something I don't think works all that great with weekly releases.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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2024/10/18 23:28:01
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Norn Queen
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I have found that a lot of the Marvel Disney + shows benefit from a binge watch once all the episodes are out. I suspect this show will do the same.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2024/10/20 06:31:55
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Regardless of who's making them, I feel that all of these 6-8 episode shows that have become so common are a better experience all in one go. With 20-something episodes, spacing them out is fine, but with super-short runs, you're just getting into it when it finishes. It's like watching a movie broken up over half a dozen sessions... it doesn't add anything to the experience, just makes it disjointed.
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2024/10/20 09:15:27
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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It’s definitely a different discipline than writing for Movies or Syndication.
Even then, I’d call the Marvel stuff never goes lower than simply mediocre. With the possible exception of Secret Invasion, which managed to feel oddly disconnected from everything.
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2024/10/21 14:18:26
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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They are effectively unedited films, which means they're one cohesive story that's best watched in one go, but they're also not quite compelling enough to watch in one go either. I vastly prefer watching them weekly, but I'd also prefer if more of them had a little more structure to individual episodes like WandaVision and the Mandalorian.
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2024/10/21 17:39:55
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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LunarSol wrote:They are effectively unedited films, which means they're one cohesive story that's best watched in one go, but they're also not quite compelling enough to watch in one go either. I vastly prefer watching them weekly, but I'd also prefer if more of them had a little more structure to individual episodes like WandaVision and the Mandalorian.
I've found that for most of the D+ shows I like watching 2-3 episodes at a time.
So for alot of them I just wait until 2-3 episodes have dropped, watch them , wait another 2-3 weeks, repeat....
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2024/10/21 18:20:22
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Fixture of Dakka
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ccs wrote: LunarSol wrote:They are effectively unedited films, which means they're one cohesive story that's best watched in one go, but they're also not quite compelling enough to watch in one go either. I vastly prefer watching them weekly, but I'd also prefer if more of them had a little more structure to individual episodes like WandaVision and the Mandalorian.
I've found that for most of the D+ shows I like watching 2-3 episodes at a time.
So for alot of them I just wait until 2-3 episodes have dropped, watch them , wait another 2-3 weeks, repeat....
Probably the best answer. Andor was clearly set up this way.
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2024/10/24 02:15:56
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Norn Queen
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Another great episode.
Next week (the 30th) will be the last 2 episodes being released at the same time.
I am excited.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2024/10/25 09:39:57
Subject: MCU stuff. TV and Movies
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They've kept the momentum going really well in Agatha. Even the flashback last week was well done and interesting, unlike a certain other recent Disney show.
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