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Currently building a 2nd Rhino.

After that my attention will turn to building dreads.

 Kanluwen wrote:
You know that you can get a similar effect using gauze cut to shape as a stencil, right?

Trying to save you from having to freehand it all yourself! I did that style of design for someone ages ago, the gauze ended up being a much better way to do it than trying to replicate it each time.

I am not aiming to make it symetrical at all. I am doing it to highlight a tank commander and show off an allegiance, nvm actually improving at painting?

Tough i am curious, gauze stencil? How would that work?

This is one of those times I took more pictures...

The basic idea is that you use the squares of the gauze mesh, which is taped to the surface, to be a guide for applying dots of color to make the setup you want.

Bought some Cataphractii. I need the HTH punch, and they can go into the Spartan for some rapid deployment LOLs.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Bought some Cataphractii. I need the HTH punch, and they can go into the Spartan for some rapid deployment LOLs.

shouldn't you have 10 already?

Traded them for more MkVI.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Traded them for more MkVI.

Ahhhh that explains...

Not Online!!! wrote:
I am not aiming to make it symetrical at all. I am doing it to highlight a tank commander and show off an allegiance, nvm actually improving at painting?

I like it - I don’t have the courage to do much freehanding. And images painted by tank crews on their vehicles are rarely going to be perfect.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Bought some Cataphractii. I need the HTH punch, and they can go into the Spartan for some rapid deployment

I just bought a box of them too, to add to my Ultramarines. l’ll give them the Tartaros reaper autocannon I got from eBay, because why not?

Don'tforget to put a blob of green stuff in the hip joint for termies, to raise them that crucial 1mm.

Can’t be bothered with that 🤣🤣

First five assembled. Other five for tomorrow. All with twin lightning claws because frankly, Rend and Shred is a ridiculous combo. Between the units resilience, and the reliability of their attacks there’s not an awful lot they can’t terrorise. Infantry of all stripes have plenty to fear, and even Dreadnought type big stuff is only a handful of Jammy Sixes away from losing kneecap privileges.

Don’t think I’m gonna bother with the tiny wee shields.

All lightning claws is honestly a solid option. You're throwing out that many attacks that likely rend most things to death through sheer volume of attacks. You really can't go wrong.

If you're not going to use the tilting shields, saving them for a veteran squad or some companions will add a nice little touch to the unit to make them stand out a bit more. It's what I'll be doing with mine.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Don'tforget to put a blob of green stuff in the hip joint for termies, to raise them that crucial 1mm.

Do they need it? I have compared them to the Mk III and Mk VI (which vary slightly in height from pose to pose), and they seem to be the right height.


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 Snrub wrote:
All lightning claws is honestly a solid option. You're throwing out that many attacks that likely rend most things to death through sheer volume of attacks. You really can't go wrong.

If you're not going to use the tilting shields, saving them for a veteran squad or some companions will add a nice little touch to the unit to make them stand out a bit more. It's what I'll be doing with mine.

I just think Cataphractii look a bit nekkid without a gun. And since they are Dark Angels they should have at least one sword...

Good suggestion on the tilting shields. The bigger question is whether I can convert the new Primaris Inner Circle dudes into 30k Companions.

Suggestion on my blog thread to include a pair of Heavy Flamer and Chainfist dudes. And that does seem a solid addition. Nice bit of anti-armour, and whilst depressingly short ranged, the Heavy Flamers give me some Stand and Fire nastiness if my opponent gets the charge.

Unless you are charged by SA/Militia that isn't a threat at all though, the flamer that is.

I have fallen in love with Epic30k/LI but yesterday I felt like working on big scale Heresy again and finished these battered Matt metallic EC Mk VI Legionnaires.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Unless you are charged by SA/Militia that isn't a threat at all though, the flamer that is.

2D6 S5 AP4 is still plenty nasty. And it’s not as if the Chainfists don’t ’urt loads when in HTH. Also gives them serious potential against pretty much any enemy armour.

Need to check my rule book to see if it’s possible, but that includes getting a tin opener on your transport, then consolidating into the meaty insides. Sure I lose my charge bonus*, but at least in your turn I’m safe from ranged reprisals*, and will hopefully have given enough of a kicking out in your turn that I’m free to charge in my next turn*

*I really do need to check if that’s possible. Pretty sure it is?

 Snord wrote:
I just think Cataphractii look a bit nekkid without a gun. And since they are Dark Angels they should have at least one sword...

I sort of agree about the gun. They do look good with the combi-bolters. But the efficacy of twin-lightning claws cannot be denied.

Good suggestion on the tilting shields. The bigger question is whether I can convert the new Primaris Inner Circle dudes into 30k Companions.

I've been pondering the same thing myself. I really like the greatswords they use and have been considering throwing them on some MkII marines, but the robed arms are annoying and will look really out of place unless you go with fully robed companions (which I'm not planning on.) and the Primaris scale arms are going to look really wonky on the normal marine bodies.
I'm sure you could convert the whole model easy enough, considering they're mostly robes. But again, the scale of the primaris are going to look off against normal sized marines.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Suggestion on my blog thread to include a pair of Heavy Flamer and Chainfist dudes. And that does seem a solid addition. Nice bit of anti-armour, and whilst depressingly short ranged, the Heavy Flamers give me some Stand and Fire nastiness if my opponent gets the charge.

I wouldn't bother with the heavy flamer/s personally. Wall of death, the best you're going to get is 6 hits that likely won't do much if anything to marines. And honestly, you'd likely be better using the hold the line reaction, depending on what's charging at you. The chain fists, while a fine weapon, doesn't mesh well among Lightning Claws. Part of the strength of the lightning claws is that they hit on initiative and because chainfists have unwieldy and so strike at Initiative 1, you're losing a portion of that advantage. Plus you're also losing 2 attacks per marine, which isn't the be all end all, but it'll make a difference.

Now if you mix a few chainfists in among powerfists or take a squad of all chainfists, no problemo! You'll be hitting at I1 anyway, so everything's hunky dory. Combi-meltas + Fists is a great, if short range tank hunting unit. I often run a unit of 5 cataphractii with such a loadout and they're tough to survive a few rounds of shooting and strong enough to dish it back out when they get where they're going.

 westiebestie wrote:
I I felt like working on big scale Heresy again and finished these battered Matt metallic EC Mk VI Legionnaires.

They look great! While the pristine parade ground look does suit the EC, but I do like to see them weathered and battered up.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
2D6 S5 AP4 is still plenty nasty.

Regular templates are only D3 per template on overwatch. Hellstorm templates are D6.

And it’s not as if the Chainfists don’t ’urt loads when in HTH. Also gives them serious potential against pretty much any enemy armour.

You're certainly not wrong. But related to my point above, a squad of lightning claw temies isn't likely to be assault vehicles unless they've got literally nothing else to charge, or are charged themselves. And even then, rending will give you a chance anyway against vehicles. The chainfists would be largely wasted outside of a few random outlier situations.

Need to check my rule book to see if it’s possible, but that includes getting a tin opener on your transport, then consolidating into the meaty insides. Sure I lose my charge bonus*, but at least in your turn I’m safe from ranged reprisals*, and will hopefully have given enough of a kicking out in your turn that I’m free to charge in my next turn*

*I really do need to check if that’s possible. Pretty sure it is?

It is possible, but I've never had cause to try it myself so I'm honestly not sure how "worth it" it would generally be. YMMV of course!

 Snrub wrote:

I've been pondering the same thing myself. I really like the greatswords they use and have been considering throwing them on some MkII marines, but the robed arms are annoying and will look really out of place unless you go with fully robed companions (which I'm not planning on.) and the Primaris scale arms are going to look really wonky on the normal marine bodies.
I'm sure you could convert the whole model easy enough, considering they're mostly robes. But again, the scale of the primaris are going to look off against normal sized marines.

I think the greatswords are too massive for HH Marines. And they're 2-handed, which makes it very difficult to do the conversion without using most of the Primaris Companion body. But, as you say, using the existing figures will mean they are too tall. Maybe it will be easier to convert Companions from Black Templars. The other alternative is to just suck it up and buy the resin models from FW, but they are now somewhat on the short side.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Suggestion on my blog thread to include a pair of Heavy Flamer and Chainfist dudes. And that does seem a solid addition. Nice bit of anti-armour, and whilst depressingly short ranged, the Heavy Flamers give me some Stand and Fire nastiness if my opponent gets the charge.

I wouldn't bother with the heavy flamer/s personally. Wall of death, the best you're going to get is 6 hits that likely won't do much if anything to marines. And honestly, you'd likely be better using the hold the line reaction, depending on what's charging at you. The chain fists, while a fine weapon, doesn't mesh well among Lightning Claws. Part of the strength of the lightning claws is that they hit on initiative and because chainfists have unwieldy and so strike at Initiative 1, you're losing a portion of that advantage. Plus you're also losing 2 attacks per marine, which isn't the be all end all, but it'll make a difference.

Now if you mix a few chainfists in among powerfists or take a squad of all chainfists, no problemo! You'll be hitting at I1 anyway, so everything's hunky dory. Combi-meltas + Fists is a great, if short range tank hunting unit. I often run a unit of 5 cataphractii with such a loadout and they're tough to survive a few rounds of shooting and strong enough to dish it back out when they get where they're going.

Interesting, because I've seen other people recommend a mix of weapons, including chainfists and basic power weapons - partly to manage the overall cost of the unit, and partly for more versatility. I kitted out my SoH Termies that way, but they're still unpainted so they haven't been tested. Maybe a subject for a separate thread?

I like to keep options open, especially in AoD where my squads tend to be “one use only” because that’s what the army list enforces.

I could of course go for two with Heavy Flamer and Lightning Claw. But the attractive part of the Chainfists is it allows the squad to do more.

For instance, whilst I can very likely Rend even a Thanatar into itty bitty pieces in a turn or two? The Chainfists will help that happen, as well as providing me the option to tackle stuff with AV quickly and reliably.

And, as I can’t take a Lightning Claw on the other arm? I might as well cough up a few points for a better shooter than a twin linked Bolter.

It also makes them somewhat harder for my opponent to counter. If I’m piling into say, Tech-Thralls (which going to plastic means we’re more likely to run into in decent numbers) I can give them a quick hosing down before I jump them. And, should I chew through an enemy unit in my own turn, I can do a wall of death when I’m charged.

It’s all about those options in a game where a lot of my stuff doesn’t really get much in the way of unit flexibility. Which is the same reason I pay for Chain Bayonets on Tactical Squads. It makes them that little bit nastier when hitting stuff, and that little bit thornier when my opponent is looking to deal with them.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Laid out a test print of Mk5 marines, if it goes well I'm making a max size Recon squad with shotguns, and then probably Despoilers.

Awesome stuff. Mmm, rivets. 👍

My Dark Angels resin has arrived…

What was the price you paid?

Looks to be a good half a kidney to me.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Looks to be a good half a kidney to me.

But doc... he's rest of the world and seemingly in Hong Kong... that is not "just half a kidney".

Not if it’s a Heffalump’s kidney.

They’re well big. And thus more valuable.

Actually, here in HK GW stuff is slightly cheaper - which meant that on my last trip to Australia I got a nasty surprise when I did the currency conversion. I don’t know what this pile of resin cost, and I don’t really care - this hobby is my only real vice (along with running a car I don’t really need, and alcohol). So I buy what I want. And FW stuff is really nice now. I was resin-agnostic when HH 2.0 arrived, but now I’m happy to include resin bits.

Most of the way through my most recent batch of PA infantry. Got all of the MKII assault marines and a full squad of MKII despoilers done up to the last weathering step (blood spatter) and basing (mud which is super easy, and also gets some splatter). Should have them done soon.

Also got falax blade rampagers ready for weathering, though only four shown here. I've still got 11 more to build, but I'm working on getting my built stuff painted at the moment.

That is an amazing white tone.

I see you use Army Painter Speedpaint Grim Black.

I also use Army Painter Speedpaint Grim Black.

And it’s fantastic. I know GW release a second Contrast Black, but I can’t remember which is which.

Black Templar I think is there new one? I honestly can't remember.

Grim does really well though. Makes the weapons a freaking breeze and self highlights well. I'm broadly really impressed with everything Army Painter, and only use GW stuff when I haven't yet found an alternative I like (runefang silver, brass scorpion, fleshtearers, and cygor mostly).

Not Online!!! wrote:
That is an amazing white tone.

Thank you! Finding a way to shade the white was legitimately the hardest part of getting my paint scheme. Ended up going with a heavy cut version of Holy White by army painter.