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http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/07/news-gamesday-chicago-2009-livefeed.html

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Chaos Dwarves WILL be updated!

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Bravo for the big 'at stunties!

updated like blood angels?




PS:Yay for full plastic guard....

Bit too early to be rejoicing.

BrookM wrote:Bit too early to be rejoicing.

A bit late to call it a victory too...

Meh.

They've been saying that for God-Knows how long.

But when they do come out (Note: Not IF, WHEN) expect me to buy some.

At least the CD come out of limbo. That's awesome for Hashut's boys.

And they haven't confirmed that it is a studio update. According to one of the Forge World High Ups at Baltimore, they are doing the Chaos Dwarfs for their first Warhammer book. So it is very likely that it will be a FW list and models and not a GW Studio book.

Not a "new" race, but definately worth it. CD have a lot of personality.

JHall wrote:And they haven't confirmed that it is a studio update. According to one of the Forge World High Ups at Baltimore, they are doing the Chaos Dwarfs for their first Warhammer book. So it is very likely that it will be a FW list and models and not a GW Studio book.

That would be rubbish. If you're going to do something, do it properly. Wonder if the big hats will return, or if they'll do them in the style of the Hellcannon crew.

EDIT - Would it be immensely sad to stay up all night waiting for something else to be announced on this live feed? Hmm... perhaps a quick nose over at Warseer is in order (hangs head in shame).

EDIT 2 - I'm back, it was painful (reading blue on black gives me a headache). Got mired in a 60+ page thread on Skaven figuring there must something of value in there somewhere. There wasn't.

Flashman wrote:[quote=

EDIT - Would it be immensely sad to stay up all night waiting for something else to be announced on this live feed? Hmm... perhaps a quick nose over at Warseer is in order (hangs head in shame).

EDIT 2 - I'm back, it was painful (reading blue on black gives me a headache). Got mired in a 60+ page thread on Skaven figuring there must something of value in there somewhere. There wasn't.

Well thanks for slogging through that so we don't have to. A friend of mine is obsessed with the idea of 40k Skaven even though he doesn't play WFB. I was disappointed in their "big announcement" too but there's still another day.

Deeds, not words is what I want out of GW. It doesn't look like there's much of anything concrete on show at the Games Day.

I see shares in the EBay Chaos Dwarf Trade plummeting?
SELL SELL SELL!

Love how the sign, "NO PICTURES" was... in the picture. I guess it was because some people can't read German? Oh wait... the graphic.

Huh.

Great. Now I gotta collect them again. Knew I shouldn't have gotten rid of my chaos stunties.

Other regiments in plastic? Yeah... uh huh. I'll believe that when I see it.

I just hope that Forge World doing Fantasy campaign books will lead to an Elven schism book, with gorgeous resin High Elf and Dark Elf infantry that make the Wood Elf boxes look terrible...

/dreams

Not only that wtf is the point? Its not like they have ANY different stats...

But hey! New models that cost more then the old ones and do the exact same thing....

Wooo!

I'll clearly get derided for this post, but hey. Whats new?


I had a chaos dwarf team in blood bowl, they were funny, slavik, and humorously flavorful. They worked great in a "fantasy football game". They are a stupid concept for the actual game of warhammer fantasy. They are a throwback to when the game was about humor, giant hair, drinking, and not caring if a girl saw you playing the game because lets face it, you wouldn't be able to talk to her anyway.


I like to think that the game has matured a bit, and this army isn't going to fit well at all. There are plenty of good concepts they could have moved on with, chaosing up the short people faction isn't a good concept.

Agreed

Cool! Let's hope for Wood Dwarves, Space Dwarves and Chaos Space Dwarves next!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Other regiments in plastic? Yeah... uh huh. I'll believe that when I see it.

It's a lie, just like Plastic Canadians.

From the small bit I remember about Chaos Dwarves(admittedly, they're before my time...), they could be made into an interesting Orcs & Gobbos styled army, with Hobgoblin slaves, Ogres, etc alongside the actual wacky warmachines.

Maybe they should just lose the "Chaos" part and be Spiky Stunties?

ShumaGorath wrote:I like to think that the game has matured a bit, and this army isn't going to fit well at all. There are plenty of good concepts they could have moved on with, chaosing up the short people faction isn't a good concept.

Explain how the concept of 'Evil Dwarves' doesn't fit in a fanatsy setting that already includes Evil Humans and Evil Elves? Especially when this same Fantasy setting already includes Giant Rats and Giant Lizards?

ShumaGorath wrote:I'll clearly get derided for this post, but hey. Whats new?


I had a chaos dwarf team in blood bowl, they were funny, slavik, and humorously flavorful. They worked great in a "fantasy football game". They are a stupid concept for the actual game of warhammer fantasy. They are a throwback to when the game was about humor, giant hair, drinking, and not caring if a girl saw you playing the game because lets face it, you wouldn't be able to talk to her anyway.


I like to think that the game has matured a bit, and this army isn't going to fit well at all. There are plenty of good concepts they could have moved on with, chaosing up the short people faction isn't a good concept.

I really think your confusing concept and execution here. The old Chaos dwarves were pretty silly, but so were the old Wood Elves and the 2nd ed Orks. GW is nothing if not skilled at grim dark. Assuming they get a full new range (and there's no reason not to assume that), Magic using evil dwarves that utilize slaves and shotguns is no more ridiculous than undead chariots or all ogre armies.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:I like to think that the game has matured a bit, and this army isn't going to fit well at all. There are plenty of good concepts they could have moved on with, chaosing up the short people faction isn't a good concept.

Explain how the concept of 'Evil Dwarves' doesn't fit in a fanatsy setting that already includes Evil Humans and Evil Elves? Especially when this same Fantasy setting already includes Giant Rats and Giant Lizards?

Because I'm a human. Theres a historical context and room for expansion. I am not a dwarf. I only really have so much tolerance for short people with full facial hair and eyes despite living underground for tens of thousands of years. Making evil short people is not interesting to me. I also don't want good skaven or evil lizardmen.

ShumaGorath wrote:Because I'm a human. Theres a historical context and room for expansion. I am not a dwarf.

You're not an Elf either. Or a skeleton. Or a Vampire. Or an ogre.

Yet you tollerate these?

H.B.M.C. wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Because I'm a human. Theres a historical context and room for expansion. I am not a dwarf.

You're not an Elf either. Or a skeleton. Or a Vampire. Or an ogre.

Yet you tollerate these?

maybe he was bullied by a little person in his youth.

or he's actually a little person, and dislikes the word dwarf

i kinda hope the chaos dwarfs have some interesting models i can use as thunderers

No I see his point. The whole of human history offers such rich grounds for exploration that GW is foolish to focus on varients of their fantasy armies.

GW had a lot of options from Cathay, to Nippon, to Arabia, to Ind, to Norse and instead took a choice about as inspired as Light Beastmen.

People who play fantasy will like it but Chaos Dwarves won't do anything to tempt me into pick up fantasy.

ShumaGorath wrote: They are a stupid concept for the actual game of warhammer fantasy.

Nah. Evil Dwares is fine.


Little people riding Trikes is a stupid concept.

YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES(if this becomes official WFB army, I may actually start playing)

H.B.M.C. wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:Because I'm a human. Theres a historical context and room for expansion. I am not a dwarf.

You're not an Elf either. Or a skeleton. Or a Vampire. Or an ogre.

Yet you tollerate these?

I read that as toilerate. You know, like toilet.