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Can I have this replaced please?' (holding just the marine).
'No, sorry you have to go through customer services, 'cos it's limited edition.'
'That's awkward'
'Yeah, we know, sorry.'
I take a look at the fairly long queue... 'Can I have a full refund then please?'
'Yes, of course'.
'Cool, can I spend the refund immediately on another marine please?'
'Uhm, yess...'
'Bit of a pointless policy that then, isn't it?'

Brilliant.
Well mate from the looks of it you better just stay away from Finecasts, its just not worth the hassle.

This makes me nervous to head home and find my LI model...I hope it doesn't have issues, cause I won't be home til the beginning of march. If there are problems, I hope they don't refuse me for turning it in so late. Work comes first, after all. Can everyone who gets the figure post somewhere as to discuss the quality of them?

winterdyne wrote:
Anyway, bought and OPENED IN STORE. First impressions were good, but it turns out the bottom of one of the greaves was borked, and the resin scenic base has a real thin spot. There was probably more, but store lighting at WHW is dire.
So, I go up to the counter. 'Can I have this replaced please?' (holding just the marine).
'No, sorry you have to go through customer services, 'cos it's limited edition.'
'That's awkward'
'Yeah, we know, sorry.'
I take a look at the fairly long queue... 'Can I have a full refund then please?'
'Yes, of course'.
'Cool, can I spend the refund immediately on another marine please?'
'Uhm, yess...'
'Bit of a pointless policy that then, isn't it?'

LOL!

I'm so worried about how bad a Lukas The Trickster model will be in Finecast (I have no local stores that carry the blisters in-store, only online GW), that I would rather build a 10 dollar proxy out of plastic commander and assault squad bitz, than pay 20 bucks (US) for a model I'll just have to do work on to finish GW's horrible job as casting. Finecast is garbage, completely and utterly. I'm not paying just to do GW's job, before I can even start to do my own creative work!

It's more expensive than white metal, and while they tout it's "impressive detail ability", for the models they are recasting, it has the exact same detail as they had in metal, but with less reliability that those details will even get cast at all. And that's if it doesn't just plain get broken on the way to the consumer.

I have never had to fix a GW model in plastic or metal in 15 years of the hobby, and now I can't even buy new models for 40K just for fear of sub-par quality and breakage, even if I wanted to pay the baseless mark-up for models that were up to 30-50% cheaper in metal.

For instance, there is no way I'll touch a model with tiny, thin Finecast Lightning Claw blades..(*shudder*).

F-U GW.

Actually, I don't think Finecast is particularly brittle, and I don't really think parts like LC blades will present an issue unless they get a lot of shear force applied. The primary issue is the bubbling, and (excessive) warping due to being pulled too early (ie before the resin is cured enough). As the resin finishes curing in the warped position, it can be very awkward to fix. I've not seen so much of that latter problem recently though.

Finecast is like a Chocolate Tea cup or a Barrel of Fish whom have guns (I hope someone gets the ref), it's so full of flaws and dangers it becomes truly unusable, the sheer number of miscasts and damages due to its nature makes it a ridiculous material to use. GW can't deny that they made such a horrid mistake.

winterdyne wrote:Asked a staffer when I walk into Warhammer World what the casting rate is like on them. 100%, I'm told they're told. Heh.

This is what still bugs me most about Finecrapst -- not the price rise, not the poor quality, not the inability to mail order it without risking a stack of hassle, but GW's insistence that their staff lie to their customers.

I'm always worried about the small details like swords and blades on the new models. Usually, when you drop models (within reason, like onto the table from high tabletop scenery features or from handheld height as you move them, metal and plastic models just bounce. At worst, metl bends and you bend it back. I can't be so sure about Finecast strength in the same way, as I've seen several Finecast models already broken in the package. It just doesn't seem like it can take and rough handling, unless it's a thick piece.

Plus there's the horrible quality control that you can't trust on the best of days.

As much as I wanted the LI model I'm glad I didn't buy it. If it was a plastic kit I would've got it in a heart beat but not in FC

I figured I'd show off some of my handsome Space Marine Vanguard Veterans. They're so brilliantly perfect I shed a tear of joy... Behold and bask in their gorgeousness.

They look like they've run directly into a gun line of heavy bolters. Those are terrible, I mean, it's ridiculous that these can be sold with the label of quality class.

blood reaper wrote:They look like they've run directly into a gun line of heavy bolters. Those are terrible, I mean, it's ridiculous that these can be sold with the label of quality class.

qft

My gods. That's awful!

blood reaper wrote:. GW can't deny that they made such a horrid mistake.

? You new to these parts?

That's hands down the worst model that has appeared in this thread. Can I ask how long ago it was that you bought it?

This is what still bugs me most about Finecrapst -- not the price rise, not the poor quality, not the inability to mail order it without risking a stack of hassle, but GW's insistence that their staff lie to their customers.

I agree, and really it just shows the low regard with which they view their customers. In their own words, "sheep", and other somewhat less friendly terms!

They can produce a poor quality product, raise the prices, and people still buy the stuff. As far as GW is concerned, I don't think anyone with any kind of self-regard, or pride in what they produce (just as a simple artisan) could produce products like this, this far into the release. To be honest it is shameful.

Pacific wrote:That's hands down the worst model that has appeared in this thread. Can I ask how long ago it was that you bought it?

This is what still bugs me most about Finecrapst -- not the price rise, not the poor quality, not the inability to mail order it without risking a stack of hassle, but GW's insistence that their staff lie to their customers.

I agree, and really it just shows the low regard with which they view their customers. In their own words, "sheep", and other somewhat less friendly terms!

They can produce a poor quality product, raise the prices, and people still buy the stuff. As far as GW is concerned, I don't think anyone with any kind of self-regard, or pride in what they produce (just as a simple artisan) could produce products like this, this far into the release. To be honest it is shameful.

And that is the worst part of it all. They just won't admit they have some teething problems with FC. It's face down ass up everything is fine don't talk bad about our world class product.

Those pour sturnguard and vanguard molds. Why won't GW just put them out of their misery and cut new ones?

PS when I worked there I was told to view people as walking wallets, if the wallet was empty on to the next person. =o[

Haha! Sternguard?

More like Deathguard.

Finecast, the reason I hunt for old metal models.

oni wrote:I figured I'd show off some of my handsome Space Marine Vanguard Veterans. They're so brilliantly perfect I shed a tear of joy... Behold and bask in their gorgeousness.

My God. It's like looking at the Mona Lisa in toy soldier form.

Truly no other miniatures could ever come close to the perfection of those.

The funny thing is someone looked at those models and said "Yeah, that's good.", and sent them out the door.

That vet is shameful, I hope you sent those back.

P17 of the new White Dwarf, bottom right picture of the new Hellcannon. Who can tell me what is wrong with the picture?

I don't think there's a whole lot of us that still buy White Dwarf, so uh...

I'm not spending $12 to answer that question.

Found a camera

That's pretty shameful actually.

There's some pretty bad joints all around also.

What's funny is that is probably the cleanest finecast version they could find.

Being as I only own a couple thousand points worth and I don't immerse myself into the hobby entirely, I'm not given to the childlike fits of rage that many of our brethren seem to display, but they are fully taking the piss releasing gak like that.

I would send them back and get yourself on ebay.

On the hellcannon, I'm missing it, aside from the bad join over the top... Please give hint where to find Waldo?

Edit - to add what I'm talking about!

They're dropping the ball - blue-tac hive tyrants and now dodgy hellcannon!

I bought Castellian (Russell) Crowe today - last one on the rack, it was my 2nd finecast experience:

weapon bent - par for the course
pink stuff inbetween sword hilt and hand (silicon from mould?)
storm bolter details obfuscated/holes
largeish hole in elbow guard
banner had 2 holes in it, backpack vents thin, backpack centre thin/holes - essentially a total component failure
1 purity seal streamer truncated
right half of left foot edge missing
large mould line throughout head

The dude in GW gave me an extra backpack (he keeps spare finecast stuff - happens a lot I guess)

The annoying thing is that it was £10.50 for one dude, which I had to reconstruct. It's supposed to be a premium product yet it's quality is far inferior to any metal miniature I've bought in 15 years of playing Warhammer/40k

Class action lawsuit time for misleading advertising (ie 'quality product') ?

Molds are generally vulcanized rubber, so I doubt the pink stuff was that.

It was probably some kind of release used to get it out of the mold.