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well if I have too much paint on the brush for a fine line I do tend to wipe it on a fingernail a bit - saves on excess movement. I think I will paint tommorow - till lunch and then its busy busy till evening. Not sure what to do - got 4 more squats in the post - one of them has a flamer. And some fantasy beastmen to be given guns for RT purposes. we will see - I'm anticipating a heavy hangover - whiskey, brandy, cider, beer and then red wine -only one glass of each mind you. Another friend was leaving for uni again...

weetyskemian44 wrote: whiskey, brandy, cider, beer and then red wine -only one glass of each mind you. Another friend was leaving for uni again...

Gosh, you're my kind of mini-restorer!

Let me ask a question: are you finding any signs of 'lead-rot' on the older minis? I think the mid eighties on are safe. I'm just curious as I don't really know what the metal recipe in old Citadels was (I wonder if anyone working there back then did, for that matter).

Hey, when that wine finishes fermenting, uh, send a snort over to the 'States, yeah? Hah! Sounds tasty.

haha yes i do enjoy a drink. Our government is forever trying to convince us not to enjoy drinking so much by hiking the price - this has lead to a massive resurgence in home-brewing! I want them to ban it altogether so I can become a bootlegger and make my mint.

No sign of any deterioration in the lead - aparently its caused by vinegar in the air?

"Acetic and some other acids, in the presence of carbon dioxide, catalyze with lead to produce lead acetate and lead hydroxide. Lead acetate and lead hydroxide together react with carbon dioxide and form lead carbonate. Lead carbonate then releases acetic acid and the process becomes self-sustaining" from www.dt.navy.mi

I don't understand why there would be vinegar in the air - but It is often associated with old wooden display cases - when the wood decays it must release the vinegar vapour into the stagnant air of the display case


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of course as a brewer vinegar is my enemy anyways - If it gets near alcohol it turns that into vinegar too

First the anti-rave law, and now banning drinkees? Awful business it is. Reading your threads makes me ache for a pint. Or two.

The lead rot is more of a concern with figs from the late 70s on up to about 1981, and I tend to collect from that period at the moment. I have no idea how any of these oldies were stored so it's hit-or-miss when I buy them.
I tell you it's downright Nurgle-ish. I read a tale of a man who stored his figs in a wooden box, came back a few years later to find nothing but dust.

I do have some older Citadel minis but the metal content may be such that it is not effected.

"...Pint! Pint! Pint! Pint! Arrrrrrgrghhhhh!!!"

Haha. We all got real angry when they did the anti-rave law, but they never seem to inforce it at the little farm-raves I go to. I guess there just arn't enough people at these things for them to even know about it - The legal limit before a party turns into an illegal rave is 100 people and I there are usualy 50-150 people at the kind of things I go to. Good times

Good luck with the minis, I guess the best way to deal with it is to wash em well when you get them in detergent. and dry well.


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Oh and I'm painting so there should be an update soon

Loving the old Rogue Trader marines, most of my chaos force is made up of the like.

Can't beat the old ones if you ask me

Quite so, the classics are the best!
Looking forward to more pics, and more Squats!!

(Rave on Weets! [I'm a D'n'B fellow myself...])

I will listen to anything but aphex twin is my all time favourite - he is from cornwall so I guess I'm biased


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First colours


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Last pic before it gets to dark to take photos

Having your raves split up tends to depend on the local police - we've had small ones jumped on, and the Criminal Justice Act made it illegal to gather together to listen to 'repetitive beats' - 2 peeps if they were believed to be preparing a rave, 10 peeps if they were believed to be 'awaiting' a rave and a full-scale rave for 100+. Let's face it pretty soon it'll be illegal to do anything (unless you're a politico or a footballer), just pray they don't decide wargaming is teaching peeps violent behaviour

Think I managed to avoid switching into full-on rant mode there

edit: Oh yeah, mini's looking good there too

Listen: just switch from the gabber and jungle to Cliff Richard and the nation will be safe!

That last fig is awesome! He's got a great expression, these colors are really striking, this is going to be quite a collection.
Hooray for mini-fig' restoration!

Thanks! He is all finished now but ppics will have to wait for now - he has a big red plasma gun now.

Really like the colouring on that plasma dude. Love his hair.

They don't make them like they used too.



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Forget to say that I have a Citadel Grenadier 1982 D&D Lizardman (pre-slotta) base (it also appears to have a musket)...the metal on that is a sort of tarnished bronze colour. Actually its not...its more brown.

Anyway...I guess that could be to metal rot.

I think I might have taken that off my cousin when I was a child or something as I have no other D&D stuff (only paper cutouts and plastic).




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Btw...I am not sure if I asked before...or if the answer exists...

What chapter are you painting the marines in, and the IGs?

Ahh now thats a good question - the space marines I could do with some feedIback on - originally they were 2 be the red star chapter - but I scrapped that idea when I changed their symbol away from a star - I think they are like space knights so something vaguely chivalric would be good.
emperors paladins?
Dark Knights?
Azure Crusaders?

The guard are sorta based on a description of tech-guard I read in a book - they have red armour, so hence why I was calling them mars regiment - but I need to find a tech priest, servitors and maybe do some bionic body parts before they really look like a tech guard


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Order of the Seraphim


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Honour Legion

Wow. You are either up very very early, or extremely late! Haha

The mars regiment would be good....though I imagine the tech priest servitors will be hard to come by.


I don't know about the SM - though I like the fact that you are making your own up.

Hmm. You could have them as a Rainbow Warriors spin off...

Earth Protectors


I am really bad at names.

Cataphract Legion?


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No worries dude - yea I was woken up By some screaming drunks and thought I would do some ebay

I like that.

Though...you would need to find some 'Calvary' unless they are the cavalry

Wait. Which one is the horse and which one is Jebus. I am dyslexic.

Cataphractarii? I don't think I have room on my shelf for bikers so the name is purely symbolic i guess - maybe I can get them a rhino - But once I start with vehicles I really will need to get rid of some books to make room. I think I better get back to sleep now.

You could always just say that these guys are the Cavalry...

Right I'm going to ebay to do some early morning shopping - tech priest and some servitors

Squat Muscian

No Bids

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warhammer-40k-Citadel-Space-Dwarf-Squat-OOP-/300469707929?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item45f563e499

Shizer...Adeptus Mechanicus are expensive!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Warhammer-40K-Skullz-Adeptus-Mechanicus-Set-/280563993011?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4152eac9b3

Rogue Trader search seems ok.

I've managed to find a rogue trader techpriest and I am in the lead - and I have splashed out a bit on buyitnow and got two RT servitors, a couple of these wierd little tracked servitor skulls that came with space hulk and some large ruin bases for my terminators.
The space hulk things look kinda like a gothic bomb disposal robot


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Seeing these classics so fresh and bright makes me well-happy. I particularly like the symbols, shin guards especially.

You folks from the other side of the world always seem to be up so late!

Manoknok: If you poke the dark areas of a figure afflicted with lead rot it will basically 'crumble' into dust and form a little cavity, it doesn't sound like that oldie has it, but you can poke at it to test it.

Yeah weety, those are looking sweet Really liking the colours - especially that green. Making me think about doing a few more of my Crusaders Penitent looking at painted old-skool figures - just a shame I went for the quick and nasty look for them

Hi @Ambull - Ah...ok its just sort of gone brown. I'll post a pic when I get the chance on here if Weety doesn't mind. Might be able to work out what exactly it is - as the Grenadier Lizardmen section on Stuff of Legends is dead.

Weety - looking foward to your new stuff...the plasma guy looks like he is from the Foo Fighters Everlong vid.

glad to know I'm not the only person on t'internet who likes retro warhammer. looking at ebay there must be quite a few.

Go ahead and post it manoknok I'm interested in fighting this terrible disease - In fact I think I remember it happening to something I had once now ambull describes it

Doing the squat command group 2day - musician, commander and commissar - But I need a standard bearer


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the commissar type looking squat:


I think I musta left my camera's white balance on auto by mistake - too yellow

Ohh very cool mini and nice paint job, like the red and green goggles.

Think the retro mini's are popular for a few reasons. Obviously there's a nostalgia thing for some of us, there's the fact that retro is always cool for geeks , there's the collectible side of things, and then there's the fact that a lot of the older sculpts just have a lot of character, even if they're not always the best sculpt in the world.
Hmm, not the best phrasing in the world there, but in my defence I'm only just waking up

Lol, that commissar looking squat looks like the avatar of the battle cruiser in SC (at least a little bit)

You mean this guy? http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://static.curseforge.net/thumbman/avatars/4/71/160x206/battlecruiser3.jpg.-m0.png&imgrefurl=http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/674-data-data-editor-fields/&usg=__YAj32ppbVpGaJRhpgUr5Qd98kJo=&h=206&w=160&sz=83&hl=en&start=24&sig2=HfjlhTiyS7RJYNdkAFBHzA&zoom=1&tbnid=dMz6iqXOvBiWkM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=105&ei=TX2fTLyiIMK5jAfosIiADQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbattlecruiser%2Bavatar%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DX%26rlz%3D1R1GPCK_en___GB388%26biw%3D768%26bih%3D454%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1478&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=149&vpy=166&dur=471&hovh=164&hovw=128&tx=83&ty=58&oei=P32fTPPqHceAswbN75nmDg&esq=5&page=5&ndsp=8&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:24&biw=768&bih=454

Yeah He definatly has that nautical look - and hes a nicotine fiend!

Done his musician/vox caster/DJ
I would have also done the commander dude but I broke his laspistol and I cant decide if i should glue it back or make him a better gun





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this is the guy - for now I have stuck his laspistol back together - It is a pretty cool laspistol. He also has a hand flamer or is it a plasma pistol

I haven't given up or anything - I've just been working - yes they finally gave me more hours again in my sh*tty job. I'm annoyed I don't remember asking for more hours - oh wait yeah I remember now - I moaned loads when they cut em. wata drag, ... anyone remember that lead zeppelin song "workin 7 till 11, drag drag drag" is the lyric

Anyway I will have an update for the squat pictured above in the near future - 2morrow if the sun will come up early enough. He will have red armour, he looks kinda like brian blessed in that programme ultimate banzooki

The fluff for my army is that they are an alliance of disparate forces on the edge of explored space - a band of space-marines and tech guard assigned to an inquisitor who have thrown their lot in with the local squat warlord to combat space pirates and eldar raiders




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They are low on vehicles because they travel on a small vessel and are low on space - maybe the squats will have some bikes if I can prise them away from all the other bidders on ebay. And squad sizes are a little irregular cos of casualties - Same reason they have a lot of characters (also I get fed up painting in batches after a while)

'Since I've been lovin you' ? Class

Jeezuss, just fell off my chair sat on an army case and had to check the mini's were ok after i calmed down. Was typing and suddenly a spider was on my keyboard - will have to do as I can't find an orkmoticon for crapping my pants

Anyway... just think of the extra mini goodness you can get with the extra hours. Looking forward to seeing the commander painted up, or should that be 'LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING BRIAN BLESSED PAINTED AS A SQUAT'