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2011/06/06 11:00:09
Subject: Re:Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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75hastings69 wrote:there is indeed a new de sorceress
(...)There is indeed a cygor/gorgon kit coming, but not afaik for storm of magic.
Eldargal wrote:I do know there is an Everqueen sculpt ready (from two sources within GW), but no one seems to know if/when it is going to be released. It may be with SoM, it may be with the next HE army book or they may decide not to bother.
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Gabacho Mk.II wrote:WE are exactly one year away.
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2011/06/06 12:25:59
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Lord of the Fleet
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A Cygor? Interesting but it'll be hard to beat BaneBeast in terms of quality methinks (although gw's would probably be cheaper)
Everqueen is that elf with the maiden guard right? Does that mean she'll get her own rules?
WE are exactly a year away? As in Summer of 2012? That'd be cool I suppose
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2011/06/08 10:09:44
Subject: Re:Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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75hastings69 wrote:I just want to point out to any that have misunderstood, there aren't any large VC specific releases for SoM, these are later this year as part of a wave of VC minis. There's also a wave of Beastman minis, and then of course Oct-OGRE not a bad year for Fantasy IMO.
Oh and the dark coloured face from the teaser that people are saying is the black dragon or the abyssal terror I think you'll find is simply one of the Chimera heads (check out the tusk things coming out from the corners of the mouth - now look at the orangey type lion(ish) head it has them too - hint )
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2011/06/08 20:26:48
Subject: Re:Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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Man I really want to see some pics of the new models, I'd love me some new Dark Elf monsters! Perhaps GW marketing is doing a better job of controlling leaks now they've changed all their policies?
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2011/06/10 00:40:27
Subject: Re:Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Frgt/19 wrote:75hastings69 wrote:I just want to point out to any that have misunderstood, there aren't any large VC specific releases for SoM, these are later this year as part of a wave of VC minis.
interesting, this differs from what I heard.
things could have changed i guess (or i just got bad info )(...)
black boxes no longer exist. June was the last one (from what i was told)
Erazmus_M_Wattle wrote:Plastic kits, as I have heard it. The manticore and dragons come with multiple rider options. Awesome.
75hastings69 wrote:2 of the new plastic kits come with lord & sorcerer rider options
Scelerat wrote:If this means a plastic DE Sorceress I'm gonna have a heart attack.
ready the defib someone!!
Now the major update:
BramGaunt wrote:Oh, now that everybody posts, I might as well spill my guts.. I intended to wait another week, but ah, swell...
Storm of Magic will be a full-colour hardcover book, about half the thikness of the Core Rulebook, and at the price of, well, apoximatly one Leman Russ Battletank.
It's due for release the second saturday of July. Previews start the saturday befor.
There will be a multitude of kits and gimmicks to acompany them.
Plastic Boxed Sets are:
Chaos Lord on Manticore
Dark Elven Lord on Black Dragon
Both Kits are the same price as a similar High Elven Ridden Monster.
The saddle, Rider and (in case of the Dragon) the armour are completly optional.
There is also a Kit labeled
Chimaera
and one labeled
Cockatrice
which are the same price as a 10 man Space Marines Squad.
There are also some Clampack releases:
Chaos Supreme Sorcerer
Supreme Sorcerer of Tzeentch
Vampirecounts Necromancer
Dark Elven High Sorceress
I don't know what these are made of. Since they are clampacked I guessed Finecast, but the price of, ah, well, lets say it in GBP: It's a one-digit-point-something Price lable.
Quiet affordable if it was finecast, but since hasitings said plastic sorceres... well... do the math.
Of course there is a whole bunch of playthings and gimmics aswell, like Vortex Templates (Like the Dark Eldar Wayportal template, only bigger), Dice, Battle Magic Cards (which apearently come in a cool box of sime Lost Arc style... with skulls of course...) and Focus Points (4 different ones).
Which brings us to rules.
Storm of Magic is for any Warhammer Fantasy Battle Army. It supports you with a alternative of Deployment, Magic and Army composition rules.
Game mechanics
While you place terrain, you deploy Magil Focus points. Think of these as landmarks inhibited with strong magics, like towers, magical stairs, Columns of Fire, or what ever. Each army starts with a designated number of Focus points, it depends of the scale of the game. 1 per army per 1000 points is, what I was told, suggested in the book.
You may place 1 Wizard including a mount on top of the Focus point, and one guarding unit within a limited space - enough to place about 30 standard base-sized miniatures, I was told. The rest of your army is deployed as usual.
The game is all about dominating these points, which grant great boni to your wizard while he stands atop of them. The Magic Phase is strongly buffed with 4D6 Power dice. In addition, you determine the ascending wind of magic at the beginning of each magic phase. (It's done randomly by some sort of tool, don't ask me what it is, I don't know, but apperantly it's not a dice.) Army book Lores are associated with Army book rules, for example if the Lore of Light is the Ascendand Lore this turn, High Magic is Ascended aswell (I don't know if High Lore is really associated with Lore of Light - it's simply a example of my understanding of the mechanics).
The Ascended magic gains a +4 bonus on attempts to cast their spells. You cannot change the Ascendend in any way, though it's determined new in every magic phase.
There is also a bunch of new spells which appearently give you the possibility not only to summon Monsters loke the Cockatrice, but also whole units from other armies. I personally didn't by this one. It was a long evening with a LOT of beer.
Take all of this with salt. And enjoy.
75hastings69 wrote:Plastic MOUNTED sorceress, the foot one is finecast
A mastercrafterd post good sir, with only to my knowledge 2 exclusions....
1. Arcane fulcrum scenery piece (a ruined floor with a magical vortex - of plastic - swirling upwards which you can place your wizard on top of.
2. The "garden of morr" scenery piece, basically a new fantasy graveyard - although I'm not 100% sure that this won't be held back until the VC wave later in the year.
Erazmus_M_Wattle wrote:Take this with the usual salt. I heard that the black dragon comes with a lord, a sorceress and a witch elf. Sounds odd but interesting.
BramGaunt wrote:CME wrote:Just to point out one of the new "scenery pieces" is an cool undead graveyard
Ah, no. At least not for the initial wave... Or it's not a designated SoM release. It's not in my books anyway. There is no scenery at all, since I count the focus points as needed. while scenery is optional. There are four different Focus points, though, maybe you meant them. One's a throne, one's a gate, one's a stairway and ones a... magic-thingy-column. They come two for a space marine tac squad.
Poncho160 wrote:Any confirmation on whether this will be an expansion ala planetstrike or Apocalypse or and actual extension to the rules you can use anytime?
It's like Apocalypse. In many ways.
Tuatha Dar wrote:Or it could be meant to represent Crone Hellebron, and he mistook the Dragon for the Manticore.
The sets are labeled Chaos Lord on Manticore, and Dark Elf Highborn on Black Dragon. I don't think there are additional riders. It might be possible that the other Sorcerers to be released are compatible with the kits, though.
Zaonite wrote:Maybe it's a part of the SoM rules that Wizards can be given a mount not listed in their army book?
And I extend my thanks to BramGaunt for the awesome rumours. Now, I need to put a cockatrice on advance order... when I get it, it shall be painted golden yellow...
That is a possibility, but as far as I know, Army books stay untouched. Imagine the confusion you could create with a Slan on a Black Dragon. (...)
Well, thanks for all the positive feedback, everyone. About the scenery: I am unaware of these. It might just be that they were not on the same list, as they are scenery, and therefor unscheduled for it or to be released a little while later. Therefor sorry at CSE for correcting him, this scenery might have passed out of my LOS (Or maybe the fact that I drooled over the Manticore...)
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2011/06/10 01:33:53
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Lord of the Fleet
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No more black boxes?
Incoming nerd rage
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2011/06/10 01:50:16
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator
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Big critters? Lots of maginuke? Time to dig out the square bases!
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2011/06/10 01:53:44
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Despite our earlier rage at price increases, these don't seem too bad. $37 for a big ugly monster (cockatrice/ chimera)? I'm okay with that. Also okay with the new finecast sorcerer minis coming in in the $15-$17 range (based on single digit pounds/euros comment above-I don't have the actual numbers, this is a GUESS). Maybe my semi-local retailer was right about new finecast minis being more appropriate for cost and only the ones that made the transition from metal being more expensive. Maybe this is a good thing
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2011/06/10 01:55:27
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Fixture of Dakka
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Such paranoia from GW over "leaks" is so sad.. As if hype doesnt add to their coffers.. Ah well
Sounds like a cool expansion I guess, I dont see the point in promoting monsters when youre also promoting war machines and magic which kill them in 1 hit
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2011/06/10 05:58:15
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Fixture of Dakka
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On the upside, nothing for Dwarves means not having to spend anything.
On the downside, nothing for Dwarves :(
And how come only the EVILLE races are getting releases with this?
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Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
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2011/06/10 07:10:14
Subject: Re:Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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Oh wow, finally a new DE dragon! Damn and I said I wasn't going to buy any more models until I'd finished painting what I have, guess that's out the window (yet again)!
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2011/06/10 07:57:23
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
Surfing the Tervigon Wave...on a baby.
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All I say is thank anything you want that I get my full bonus this year
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Now only a CSM player. |
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2011/06/10 08:02:13
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dysartes wrote:On the upside, nothing for Dwarves means not having to spend anything.
On the downside, nothing for Dwarves :(
Magic? Dwarfs are resistant (and get new dispells AFAIK).
Monsters? Tagret practice.
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2011/06/10 08:10:04
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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Ack, nothing for my wood elves save more powerful magic....
I want to win games with arrows not magic!
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2011/06/10 13:36:20
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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No Orc stuff :/
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“Yesss! Just as planned!”
–Spoken by Xi’aquan, Lord of Change, in its death throes |
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2011/06/10 13:46:04
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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I'm interested to see the manticore. I've been interested in getting one, but have been putting it off for a while. I hope it'll look better then the current DE one. If not I'll probably end up picking up the kit Mantic has.
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nosferatu1001 wrote:That guy got *really* instantly killed. |
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2011/06/10 14:57:06
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Gnawing Giant Rat
Overland Park KS
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Dysartes wrote:On the upside, nothing for Dwarves means not having to spend anything.
On the downside, nothing for Dwarves :(
And how come only the EVILLE races are getting releases with this?
Because good is dumb!
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The plan wasn't flawed it was the people carrying out the plan!!!
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2011/06/10 15:13:41
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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lunarman wrote:I want to win games with arrows not magic!
Then you're playing the wrong game.
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2011/06/10 23:23:47
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Sinewy Scourge
Lawrence, KS
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Of my three armies:
Dwarves are getting nothing, as they don't cast spells, and giving them buffs to dispells isn't new models or dwarfy terrain (they should make a zepplin kit and add pts to it. We'd all buy one)
DE are getting TONS, and I'll have to decide what to buy, but my DE, despite being my most succsessful army, are also my least painted. I suppose I will have to fix that now...
VC are getting a bit also, but I'm willing to bet that it won't be enough to counter the hard issues that VC are having this edition, and won't quite be enough to resurrect my interest in the army. Too bad, too, as it's my first (from 6th ed) and most characterful (I spent WAY too much time modelling undead).
Well, we will see if there is much use to buying this book.
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Therion wrote:6th edition lands on June 23rd!
Good news. This is the best time in the hobby. Full of promise. GW lets us down each time and we know it but secretly we're hoping that this is the edition that GW gives us a balanced game that can also be played competitively at tournaments. I'm loving it.
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2011/06/11 02:17:11
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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The dragon's tail is.... meh.
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“Yesss! Just as planned!”
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2011/06/11 02:21:49
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Liking the monsters other than the Manticore. REALLY love the Cockatrice.
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2011/06/11 02:22:09
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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Wowzers
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2011/06/11 02:39:24
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
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Platuan4th wrote:Liking the monsters other than the Manticore. REALLY love the Cockatrice.
Seconded---the Cockatrice is the winner of the bunch.
The tornado with skulls made me chuckle.
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2011/06/11 02:40:50
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
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Like the new DE sorceress on foot, near the bottom middle of the top photo. Think the one on the dragon is a big husky tho, torso doesn't seem thin/long enough. Could be the angle though. Dragon looks rather nice.
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2011/06/11 02:40:54
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Horrific Howling Banshee
Montreal, Canada
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Love that dragon!
It's head fits perfecty with the hydra heads, but I'm not sold on the riders, but too many cold one riders will fix that.
The cockatrice is a beauty, well done Trish!
Manticore and chimera need more pics, but the chimera's paws don't look great from this angle.
Other companies make better manticores, so I'm not worried.
The wizards all look great to far! There are at least 3 on foot that I can see, probably more elsewhere in the issue.
Pics are fun, why does GW hate this? Probably someone will get fred for this, but I'm really glad we have some pics to drool over. Guess they want to get better WD sales.
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2011/06/11 02:46:29
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Lord of the Fleet
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What? A basilisk/cockatrice that combines both snake AND chicken aspect? Finally! Looks pretty cool
Dragon certainly is interesting, I like how its similar to the hydra
Manticore is ok but I'll probably spend my money on Raging Heroes
Chimera looks kinda silly, like a yugioh card
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2011/06/11 03:12:48
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Camouflaged Zero
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I have to agree, the manticore looks silly, as does the cockatrice. It has a third talons on the end of its tail! The dragon, however, is awesome, as is the wizard on the bottom of the right page, first picture. Is that the sorcerer of Tzeentch that was mentioned earlier?
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2011/06/11 03:19:00
Subject: Re:Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Been Around the Block
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Black dragon looks bad
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2011/06/11 03:35:28
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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........... Im digging the cockatrice and the manticore looking creature.. the dragon is disappointing to say the least.
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2011/06/11 03:36:53
Subject: Storm of Magic / WHFB Summer Event Announcement / 11-04-2011
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
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nectarprime wrote:
The dragon's tail is.... meh.
The dragon's tail may be meh, but the new plastic Highborn/Malekith on there is win.
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