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Kanluwen wrote:

swordwind99 wrote:
cool, can you show me any examples of that ?

This thread for one. Originally he wasn't going to have energy weapons, as he felt they didn't fit his universe but I suggested it and some others supported the idea.

Now he has energy weapons!

well i suppose thats sort of an example but it wasn't really a negative comment, it was more a suggestion, his stuff is really good, head and shoulders above the sculpt quality of chapterhouse and much more original.But if feedback is taken on board my main gripe with these tru scale parts is the sculpts look poor, the kneeling legs look rough as hell,the studs on the studded legs are not lined up, the knee pads are uneven and different sizes,in fact looking at the leg sections in general they look a bit random across the board(on a positive note they are at least stood up right rather than the squatting marines we have)
The torsos are Ok, a bit plain and bland, yes you could in all fairness convert them, but why should i? im paying FW prices for them i want FW detail! they also seem a little bit uneven and not very smooth, in fact it could be the camera or the light but none of these parts look "smooth" which could lead to washes and such pooling where you don't want them?
The shoulder pads are awful,to be honest most of the shoulder pads made by chapterhouse are awful, but all of those apart from the two simple plain ones at the bottom are poor and the photo editing has made them look alot worse too, the one on the top right hand side is very poor, the band is uneven and the little block with the stud is lop sided.

The back pack is not too bad, but the vent on the back is out of shape and the filery bit is off, plus there seems to be some glue marks or something to the right hand of the filter?

The shoulder pads are awful,to be honest most of the shoulder pads made by chapterhouse are awful, but all of those apart from the two simple plain ones at the bottom are poor and the photo editing has made them look alot worse too, the one on the top right hand side is very poor, the band is uneven and the little block with the stud is lop sided.

That I can agree with. They don't have the quality of detail I would prefer when making a purchase. Even were I to buy a set of tru-scales, I would use my own pads, which is a bummer. I really only like the one with the raised Deathwatch-style upper rim. The rest are too random for a cohesive set.

Sure, the sculpting isn't FW-quality, and you get 6 incomplete figures for the price of 5 complete GW plastics. But frankly, if GW were to release something comparable to just the 6 legs in Finecast, they'd cost as much as this whole set. They charge $22.50US for three SM casualties in metal

Ok so how do these look with normal shoulder pads? I can always use Forge World terminator shoulder pads if normal ones don't look right though.

Pretty cool stuff btw.

Shouldn't they still accept power armor pauldrons, if you use GW arms? Then you could use anything, from FW to the plastics to the old metal sets they have on the GW site.

swordwind99 wrote:the tone and the trolling might be obvious but i could no longer lurk and listen to you all blow sunshine up his rear about those parts, If thats the acceptable standard for aftermarket parts why do people get so up in the air about a few bubbles in fine cast, the sculpting over at chapterhouse has never been "professional" but if hes gonna blatantly copy marines at least put the effort in.
Come people they might be answering your true scale prayers on some level but dont put up with second rate parts,your paying money for this.

swordwind99 wrote:I really cant understand the positive reaction these terrible parts are getting in this forum??? those parts look really amateur, they are hardly worth handing over money for, granted if a friend showed up and he had sculpted them i would pat him on the back and say good effort, but to put them on sale to people??? I assume its because the company posted themselves so people are being extra nice or something.

I feel the same way, but these days am in fear of posting my honest feelings about Chapterhouse products because chapterhouse and some of their in house sculptors can get very aggressive with attacking criticism and labeling negative opinions as trolls and flaming worthy of mod attention.

As I'm posting, I will share my review:

Torso 1 looks pretty good to me. Symmetrical and no messed up detail.
Torso 2 does not look good to me. It is a fair bit lopsided especially around the armor plates and belt.

The legs all look of the approximately correct scale, but they have some major problems. The studded greaves strike me as very bad quality, and the posing in general to me looks unrealistic and awkward, in particular the lower left "wide stance", the upper left walking stance, and the studded greaves. The studded greaves look very disproportional to me (imagine where the knees are). The upper right legs and lower left legs have very different lengths of upper leg. The thigh plates look thin, rounded, and bad. I think by using GW's space marine accessories you may be able to cover up the places that the legs look weird, except probably the lower left legs any maybe the studded ones. While it is possible that the camera angles chosen do not make the legs look their best, I do not think a different angle would create a vast difference.
The upper-right two legs look okay, the upper-left two look decent to me, and the bottom two look the worst.

The upper left shoulder pad strikes me as awful. The studs look bad, uneven, and the shoulder pad itself looks short. As a side note, the photoshop work cropping the shoulder pads seems to do them a huge disservice as the edges are extremely jagged.
The upper right shoulder pad to me is a good concept, but I find the execution lacking, resulting in another short and wide shoulder plate that does not match "true scale" marine depictions.
The left middle shoulder pad looks good. The studs do not look bad like the upper left, and the tiered armor is a crowd pleaser.
The middle shoulder pad looks lopsided, with the armor band on the bottom overlapping and making it appear even more squat.
The right middle shoulder pad looks cool. Props for originality, though on the flip side it does not fit "true scale" marine depictions.
The bottom left shoulder pad looks good. Plain and symmetrical.
The bottom right shoulder pad also looks good for the same reasons as the bottom left.

The power packs I overall like. They fit the required image while being not direct rip-offs. I imagine most people will use GW backpacks however.

The set's price seems reasonable to me, especially if you compare it to some of chapterhouse's other conversion bits.

Overall quality level seems higher than average for chapterhouse, a breath of fresh air compared to the in my opinion very low quality Jet Bike and Power Claws released recently, and a good indication if chapterhouse is looking to up its game. Compared to Kromlech, MaxMini, and heck I'll even say Scibor, these sculpts still remain very lacking in my view, though they do not seem as willing to toe the copyright line as closely.

ph34r wrote:

swordwind99 wrote:the tone and the trolling might be obvious but i could no longer lurk and listen to you all blow sunshine up his rear about those parts, If thats the acceptable standard for aftermarket parts why do people get so up in the air about a few bubbles in fine cast, the sculpting over at chapterhouse has never been "professional" but if hes gonna blatantly copy marines at least put the effort in.
Come people they might be answering your true scale prayers on some level but dont put up with second rate parts,your paying money for this.

swordwind99 wrote:I really cant understand the positive reaction these terrible parts are getting in this forum??? those parts look really amateur, they are hardly worth handing over money for, granted if a friend showed up and he had sculpted them i would pat him on the back and say good effort, but to put them on sale to people??? I assume its because the company posted themselves so people are being extra nice or something.

I feel the same way, but these days am in fear of posting my honest feelings about Chapterhouse products because chapterhouse and some of their in house sculptors can get very aggressive with attacking criticism and labeling negative opinions as trolls and flaming worthy of mod attention.

This.
I received a warning and was labelled a troll earlier in this thread for saying the fluff is a bit much and slightly arrogant on chs behalf, I had no intention of flaming, trolling or starting an argument..
Just what I thought was constructive criticism on how to do business without creating drama, I possibly should have tried to convey my message in a better way but it still would have had the same meaning.
I also stated that I think its a nice looking kit and will fill a gap that many people are happy to see filled (a statement which went unheard)

swordwind99 you may get a warning for your posts, hopefully you won't but if you do, don't let it stop you posting.
Not every negative/constructive feedback is trolling, and the sooner its realized, the better the discussions will be in regards to chs.
(This isn't an invititation to discuss my feelings on ANYTHING chs related, I'll save that for pm's)

Now getting this back on track, I noticed the guy that made these marines also had a rad looking converted dreadnought..
Will this be a kit that could see release in the future?

ph34r wrote:

swordwind99 wrote:the tone and the trolling might be obvious but i could no longer lurk and listen to you all blow sunshine up his rear about those parts, If thats the acceptable standard for aftermarket parts why do people get so up in the air about a few bubbles in fine cast, the sculpting over at chapterhouse has never been "professional" but if hes gonna blatantly copy marines at least put the effort in.
Come people they might be answering your true scale prayers on some level but dont put up with second rate parts,your paying money for this.

swordwind99 wrote:I really cant understand the positive reaction these terrible parts are getting in this forum??? those parts look really amateur, they are hardly worth handing over money for, granted if a friend showed up and he had sculpted them i would pat him on the back and say good effort, but to put them on sale to people??? I assume its because the company posted themselves so people are being extra nice or something.

I feel the same way, but these days am in fear of posting my honest feelings about Chapterhouse products because chapterhouse and some of their in house sculptors can get very aggressive with attacking criticism and labeling negative opinions as trolls and flaming worthy of mod attention.

As I'm posting, I will share my review:

Torso 1 looks pretty good to me. Symmetrical and no messed up detail.
Torso 2 does not look good to me. It is a fair bit lopsided especially around the armor plates and belt.

The legs all look of the approximately correct scale, but they have some major problems. The studded greaves strike me as very bad quality, and the posing in general to me looks unrealistic and awkward, in particular the lower left "wide stance", the upper left walking stance, and the studded greaves. The studded greaves look very disproportional to me (imagine where the knees are). The upper right legs and lower left legs have very different lengths of upper leg. The thigh plates look thin, rounded, and bad. I think by using GW's space marine accessories you may be able to cover up the places that the legs look weird, except probably the lower left legs any maybe the studded ones. While it is possible that the camera angles chosen do not make the legs look their best, I do not think a different angle would create a vast difference.
The upper-right two legs look okay, the upper-left two look decent to me, and the bottom two look the worst.

The upper left shoulder pad strikes me as awful. The studs look bad, uneven, and the shoulder pad itself looks short. As a side note, the photoshop work cropping the shoulder pads seems to do them a huge disservice as the edges are extremely jagged.
The upper right shoulder pad to me is a good concept, but I find the execution lacking, resulting in another short and wide shoulder plate that does not match "true scale" marine depictions.
The left middle shoulder pad looks good. The studs do not look bad like the upper left, and the tiered armor is a crowd pleaser.
The middle shoulder pad looks lopsided, with the armor band on the bottom overlapping and making it appear even more squat.
The right middle shoulder pad looks cool. Props for originality, though on the flip side it does not fit "true scale" marine depictions.
The bottom left shoulder pad looks good. Plain and symmetrical.
The bottom right shoulder pad also looks good for the same reasons as the bottom left.

The power packs I overall like. They fit the required image while being not direct rip-offs. I imagine most people will use GW backpacks however.

The set's price seems reasonable to me, especially if you compare it to some of chapterhouse's other conversion bits.

Overall quality level seems higher than average for chapterhouse, a breath of fresh air compared to the in my opinion very low quality Jet Bike and Power Claws released recently, and a good indication if chapterhouse is looking to up its game. Compared to Kromlech, MaxMini, and heck I'll even say Scibor, these sculpts still remain very lacking in my view, though they do not seem as willing to toe the copyright line as closely.

ph34r,

This is a good critique, some of your past post are not like this and just seem to be attacks on the company and not the sculpting details, there is a difference, and this post is very helpful.

swordwind99, so what forum did you come from that makes you think Dakka is so strictly moderated? Dakkadakka is a forum where we tend to try to be respectful and if people critique, we try to keep it to the point where its not attacking the company or individual, otherwise, yeah the Mods do step in. I hope you can contribute to the community.

If you read the post here, you will see that its not all "sunshine up the butt", there are many who say they dont like the sculpt AND they give reasons why (other then "Its crap). Such limited criticisms help noone in the end and only tend to aggravate pretty much all parties involved in a discussion.

I think many hobbyist realize that a)Im not the best photo shopper in the world and b) up close photos of models that are 2 inches tall do not truly represent what you will see on the table from eye level. Maybe thats why people buy miniatures that are not "flawless"?

Nick
Chapterhouse Studios LLC


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raincity wrote:

ph34r wrote:

swordwind99 wrote:the tone and the trolling might be obvious but i could no longer lurk and listen to you all blow sunshine up his rear about those parts, If thats the acceptable standard for aftermarket parts why do people get so up in the air about a few bubbles in fine cast, the sculpting over at chapterhouse has never been "professional" but if hes gonna blatantly copy marines at least put the effort in.
Come people they might be answering your true scale prayers on some level but dont put up with second rate parts,your paying money for this.

swordwind99 wrote:I really cant understand the positive reaction these terrible parts are getting in this forum??? those parts look really amateur, they are hardly worth handing over money for, granted if a friend showed up and he had sculpted them i would pat him on the back and say good effort, but to put them on sale to people??? I assume its because the company posted themselves so people are being extra nice or something.

I feel the same way, but these days am in fear of posting my honest feelings about Chapterhouse products because chapterhouse and some of their in house sculptors can get very aggressive with attacking criticism and labeling negative opinions as trolls and flaming worthy of mod attention.

This.
I received a warning and was labelled a troll earlier in this thread for saying the fluff is a bit much and slightly arrogant on chs behalf, I had no intention of flaming, trolling or starting an argument..
Just what I thought was constructive criticism on how to do business without creating drama, I possibly should have tried to convey my message in a better way but it still would have had the same meaning.
I also stated that I think its a nice looking kit and will fill a gap that many people are happy to see filled (a statement which went unheard)

swordwind99 you may get a warning for your posts, hopefully you won't but if you do, don't let it stop you posting.
Not every negative/constructive feedback is trolling, and the sooner its realized, the better the discussions will be in regards to chs.
(This isn't an invititation to discuss my feelings on ANYTHING chs related, I'll save that for pm's)

Now getting this back on track, I noticed the guy that made these marines also had a rad looking converted dreadnought..
Will this be a kit that could see release in the future?

rain,

As far as the overly negative (IMHO and others Im guessing from the moderation) comment and your positive comment, well isnt like saying to your wife "Your butt is huge and fat in those jeans, but hey I like the color?".

LOL

As for the dreadnought, probably not, though I have always wanted to do parts that would customize dreads, its just not in the books yet (not enough time).

I'd be more concerned about the bowleggedness of the upright standing legs than the quality of any of the shoulder pads. They look fine when assembled and few tiny resin bits look good with bad photography and a photoshop chop job. The final effect is nice, and that's what most people are going to see.

Chapterhouse wrote:ph34r,

This is a good critique, some of your past post are not like this and just seem to be attacks on the company and not the sculpting details, there is a difference, and this post is very helpful.

swordwind99, so what forum did you come from that makes you think Dakka is so strictly moderated? Dakkadakka is a forum where we tend to try to be respectful and if people critique, we try to keep it to the point where its not attacking the company or individual, otherwise, yeah the Mods do step in. I hope you can contribute to the community.

Chapterhouse wrote:If you read the post here, you will see that its not all "sunshine up the butt", there are many who say they dont like the sculpt AND they give reasons why (other then "Its crap). Such limited criticisms help noone in the end and only tend to aggravate pretty much all parties involved in a discussion.

There is a problem when people who post how they dislike your work without extensive explanation are condemned/flamed/punished, but nobody bats a single lash at a 100% vacuous post that is positive.

If I did not fear that my honest OPINION would not be labeled as trolling or flaming, and having a moderator crack down on me, I would have posted my opinion as simply "These seem like decent true scale conversion kits, but have too many blatant flaws and sculpting oversights for me to consider buying."

As I have said I do not think that this product is awful, I think it is decent with some notable/obvious flaws, but if there is a product that I do think is awful, I do not think that the only way I should be allowed to share my opinion is with an extensive kiddy-gloves review.

There is a problem when people who post how they dislike your work without extensive explanation are condemned/flamed/punished, but nobody bats a single lash at a 100% vacuous post that is positive.

In general decorum an insult requires explanation/reprisal while a compliment is taken with honor.

ShumaGorath wrote:In general decorum an insult requires explanation/reprisal while a compliment is taken with honor.

That's the way it goes. The level of paranoia on online forums is way higher than in real life. Online, it is much easier to slam someone as being a troll than to agree to disagree or ask for explanation.
I've criticized a lot of art in my day, and got a lot of brutally honest critiques in return, but never has someone told me "you don't actually believe that, you are just trying to start gak". I consider that the ultimate insult, and unfortunately it's a staple go-to on the internet if someone disagrees with you.

If I was Chapterhouse Studios, this is what I'd do:

Fix the concept for the legs so that the Marine could actually wear them - make the thighs thicker and get rid of the lizard hips.

Then I'd make a plastic sprue of just the torsos and the fixed legs. Forget about the shoulder pads and backpacks.

Do that and you'd sell a ton, and all you need to do is sculpt and commission a single sprue.

raincity wrote:
Now getting this back on track, I noticed the guy that made these marines also had a rad looking converted dreadnought..
Will this be a kit that could see release in the future?

Image?

broadcast mode: Since there seems to be some confusion, a bit of moderation explanation follows.>

First, a reminder of the forum posting rules. All posts on Dakka are subject to these rules; every poster is held accountable under them.

Now, to be clear: you are welcome to your opinions. In most cases, provided your opinions have something to do with the topic of the thread, you are welcome to share your opinions. But HOW you share your opinions is subject to moderation.

ph34r's post is largely a fantastic post, once past the initial sentence. It would be great if all posts, positive or negative, were of this standard. But that's neither expected nor required.

This post isn't great:

swordwind99 wrote:I really cant understand the positive reaction these terrible parts are getting in this forum??? those parts look really amateur, they are hardly worth handing over money for, granted if a friend showed up and he had sculpted them i would pat him on the back and say good effort, but to put them on sale to people??? I assume its because the company posted themselves so people are being extra nice or something.

It isn't constructive, as it doesn't provide anything in the way of actionable criticism. It's condescending in tone, and belittling of the efforts of the original poster. Worst, from a moderator's perspective, it's likely to derail the discussion of the original topic (i.e., some new figures) and replace it with a different, less constructive topic (i.e., the post itself). Unsurprisingly, that's exactly what happened - there are no fewer than 11 posts discussing the post, rather than the topic at hand. And not only is this a violation of the posting rules (Stay on topic!), it has the result of fragmenting conversation, and making it more difficult to resume the original conversation.

This post is no better:

CURNOW wrote:yeah right (image)

One-liners and funny pictures do nothing to advance discussion in a thread, and, on Dakka, fall under the definition of "spam."

And this:

swordwind99 wrote:the tone and the trolling might be obvious but i could no longer lurk and listen to you all blow sunshine up his rear about those parts, If thats the acceptable standard for aftermarket parts why do people get so up in the air about a few bubbles in fine cast, the sculpting over at chapterhouse has never been "professional" but if hes gonna blatantly copy marines at least put the effort in.
Come people they might be answering your true scale prayers on some level but dont put up with second rate parts,your paying money for this.

is completely unacceptable. We've moved past nonconstructive & disruptive into what certainly appears to be deliberately baiting off-topic hostile responses, or "trolling." NOTHING about "listen to you all blow sunshine up his rear about those parts" is going to further the conversation of the original topic.

It's pretty simple, folks: if you moderate your own comments, I won't have to. There are over 54,000 registered users on Dakka; only a tiny percentage ever have cause to hear from the moderators about their posts.

If thats the acceptable standard for aftermarket parts why do people get so up in the air about a few bubbles in fine cast

Both me and you actually know the answer to that so why pretend and then comlpain that you are called out for these "nice" first time posts?
Maybe because the true scale marines are not, contrary to finecast, advertised as the best thing in the world since sliced bread and maybe because they arent priced as if they were made out of pure gold.
That kind of makes people a wee bit extra sensitive when said sliced bread made out of gold has huge bubbles and missing parts in it but hey, that´s just me.


As for the complaints about some pieces lacking in quality we DO listen and if possible make changes.
I made plans to redo all the flaws and repair the original sculptors errors and add tons of detail to the various parts some pretty long time ago as various people and mods can attest to but all that completely crashed due to lack of time. So much lack of time actually that had we waited for me to finally get them done there would never have been any true scale released and a lot of people contacted us about releasing them so in the end I guess the classic demand vs supply won out.

However I still have the bitz on my desk and still plan on slowly transforming them to forge world levels of detail and also give them various "themes".

ph34r wrote:If I did not fear that my honest OPINION would not be labeled as trolling or flaming, and having a moderator crack down on me, I would have posted my opinion as simply "These seem like decent true scale conversion kits, but have too many blatant flaws and sculpting oversights for me to consider buying."

Dakka moderators can always be trusted to be petty, shortsighted and firmly on the side of the site advertisers.

Agamemnon2 wrote:Dakka moderators can always be trusted to be petty, shortsighted and firmly on the side of the site advertisers.

Why would you assume that is what I meant? Rude.

Agamemnon2 wrote:

ph34r wrote:If I did not fear that my honest OPINION would not be labeled as trolling or flaming, and having a moderator crack down on me, I would have posted my opinion as simply "These seem like decent true scale conversion kits, but have too many blatant flaws and sculpting oversights for me to consider buying."

Dakka moderators can always be trusted to be petty, shortsighted and firmly on the side of the site advertisers.

That's uncalled for.

It's Aggy! What exactly were you expecting?

H.B.M.C. wrote:It's Aggy! What exactly were you expecting?

Every time he posts he makes me want to grab for eye-liner and a box of razorblades.

BrookM wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:It's Aggy! What exactly were you expecting?

Every time he posts he makes me want to grab for eye-liner and a box of razorblades.

Vhat you do vith your cosmetic products is your bvsiness, no need to involve me in any vay.

BrookM wrote:Every time he posts he makes me want to grab for eye-liner and a box of razorblades.

No Brook - he's not emo he's eyore.

I have always gotten a great deal of enjoyment out of Aga's posts - someone who will always tell you exactly where what he feels without any candy coating, ever. The pithy dryness and excellent adjective usage are just a bonus.

But now I'm contributing even more to dragging this thread offtopic.

All that being said, I don't think these are that bad. The leg poses are a bit iffy in my opinion, but not more so than those used by stock GW marines. I'm not in the market for truescale marines, but if I was, I'd consider these over making my own or hacking away at Terminator legs.

So i have been informed i needed to read the forum rules, i have and i would like to say "I am truly sorry if Nick (or chapterhouse) felt offended by my opening post.", I will make sure any future criticism is polite.

Agamemnon2 wrote:

ph34r wrote:If I did not fear that my honest OPINION would not be labeled as trolling or flaming, and having a moderator crack down on me, I would have posted my opinion as simply "These seem like decent true scale conversion kits, but have too many blatant flaws and sculpting oversights for me to consider buying."

Dakka moderators can always be trusted to be petty, shortsighted and firmly on the side of the site advertisers.

I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but this one barely qualifies. Surely you could work the Illuminati in, if you exerted a little effort? It'd give me something to chortle at, as I eat caviar and drink champagne provided by the exorbitant wealth the role of Moderator provides me.

Hello,
Sadly all of mine are built already, or I would get quite a few of thease. It could come in handy for Wolf Guard in PW however if I wanted to build more

Regards,
Carl

You know, I happen to love the whole resin after market industry for 40K. Heck, I write about most everything that comes out on my blog. Some of the stuff I like, some I don't. But I love the passion that goes into all of it and I try and be supportive of it all. Let the gamer decide what they like and what they don't.

I mean, these are people who are trying to make a business out of their passion. That is something I have been lucky to do in my entrepreneurial career and it is the most satisfying thing you can do for a living. It is VERY hard to make a business out of such a niche market and it takes enormous effort. Thus, I never slam anyone. Constructive criticism is always important. As the great basketball coach John Wooden said "Feedback is the single most important element of learning".

But feedback must be delivered in a manner that the recipient can appreciate. I am always open to feedback, but if you attack me I will attack you back and no one learns anything. The Internet allows people to be total jerk with no consequences. So you have to make an effort to write your posts as you would talk to someone in person. Now, I used to be really bad about this. But I have learned to follow that rule and it has served me well. But a lot of people don't and I am always amazed. To quote Patrick Swayze as Dalton in Road House "Be Nice".

I have enormous respect for Nick and Chapterhouse Studios. They are putting out great product on a regular basis, all while doing it part time and holding down jobs. Their product makes our armies more interesting, and I am looking forward to them succeeding in their lawsuit with Games Workshop and setting down the ground rules by which companies can act in this industry, so small enterprises have a set of standards they can follow. Sure, they probably screwed up a bit in the beginning, but that was probably more ignorance (and a bit of arrogance) and who of us hasn't been guilty of that!

I am following this case with another of my friends who is an IP attorney and have started writing about it on my blog. The first article is up today, and while nothing earth shaking, I hope you will read it. (Sorry for the shameless plug!).
[url]
http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2012/02/games-workshop-vs-chapterhouse-studios.html[/url]

Well, just my two Imperial credits.

Alec

Janthkin wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:

ph34r wrote:If I did not fear that my honest OPINION would not be labeled as trolling or flaming, and having a moderator crack down on me, I would have posted my opinion as simply "These seem like decent true scale conversion kits, but have too many blatant flaws and sculpting oversights for me to consider buying."

Dakka moderators can always be trusted to be petty, shortsighted and firmly on the side of the site advertisers.

I do enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but this one barely qualifies. Surely you could work the Illuminati in, if you exerted a little effort? It'd give me something to chortle at, as I eat caviar and drink champagne provided by the exorbitant wealth the role of Moderator provides me.

It's a truism that if you're doing something on the internet and you're not paying, then you're not the customer. You're the product.

Back OT. For me the static/robotic nature of the poses are what I don't like about these. Maybe it's just the way that they've been put together...

Chapterhouse wrote:Damned if we do Damned if we dont

I call it parody, and to be honest, what else do you call the ruler of an empire of planets?

Star Wars - Emperor, Dune - Emperor, Star Craft - Emperor, Never Ending Story - Empress . . . Etc. Etc.

Pictures of the next set that will be out in a week or so..

Is there any word on when these new torsos will be ready?