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Kilkrazy wrote:Actually AI's tend to reflect the make-up of the society that produced them, for obvious reasons.

Thus it was wholly to be expected that the human AIs would be xenocidal horrors, whereas the Tau AIs can be expected to be calm, co-operative and very helpful to the Federation cause.

Bah, robots are robots. They always turn on their masters. You understand that when the Men of Iron co-existed with humanity humanity wasn't a fascist, xenocidal empire like the Imperium? They were even more open-minded and liberal than the current Tau EMPIRE. That's how the robots got them, damn robots.

Kilkrazy wrote:The thing about technology is that it isn't a standard measure. For example, IoM are clearly ahead of Tau in genetic engineering (we assume) but they are clearly behind in neural interface design.

What? Aside from the already mentioned Titan and warship links, you also have Matrix-like amniotic caskets, and this.

IoM and Tau are about level pegging in AI design, but the Tau will inevitably pull ahead rapidly, because of IoM's religious strictures on AI.

The Imperium uses advanced soft AI, and modified humans for more complicated tasks, meaning they have the equivalent of a stable strong AI, though it's a natural intelligence that's been artificially augmented instead of a machine built from the ground up.

Ah the Noospshere. That was weird and cool. Like having the internet in your brain and more.

The tau are quite advanced with there NI. All their crisissuites run off them. (the tau also get a form of craziness from them same as titan pilots) The real peak of this is sadowsun. She has her NI worked through her command drones drones and can command her army by thought. (may want to check the codex I am missing mine again.)

Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:The thing about technology is that it isn't a standard measure. For example, IoM are clearly ahead of Tau in genetic engineering (we assume) but they are clearly behind in neural interface design.

What? Aside from the already mentioned Titan and warship links, you also have Matrix-like amniotic caskets, and this.

IoM and Tau are about level pegging in AI design, but the Tau will inevitably pull ahead rapidly, because of IoM's religious strictures on AI.

The Imperium uses advanced soft AI, and modified humans for more complicated tasks, meaning they have the equivalent of a stable strong AI, though it's a natural intelligence that's been artificially augmented instead of a machine built from the ground up.

Yeah, but its measured in efficiency by human standards, which by Tau standards is low. Humans are slow minded apes by more then one race in the galaxy.

Nicholas wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:"There was some concern that a weaponised version might ignite the atmosphere, initiating a chain reaction and destroying the entire planet, but when I tested it, that did not happen.”

What is this quote for and from.

It's a comment on the Tau developing exterminatus weapons.

It comes from here... http://www.cg-lair.co.uk/daleks/secemp00.htm


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Sir Pseudonymous wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:The thing about technology is that it isn't a standard measure. For example, IoM are clearly ahead of Tau in genetic engineering (we assume) but they are clearly behind in neural interface design.

What? Aside from the already mentioned Titan and warship links, you also have Matrix-like amniotic caskets, and this.

IoM and Tau are about level pegging in AI design, but the Tau will inevitably pull ahead rapidly, because of IoM's religious strictures on AI.

The Imperium uses advanced soft AI, and modified humans for more complicated tasks, meaning they have the equivalent of a stable strong AI, though it's a natural intelligence that's been artificially augmented instead of a machine built from the ground up.

The IoM stuff is like a big church organ full of pipes and wires.

The Tau stuff is a simple headset you put on and off.

The Imperium also has micro beads that let you talk to specific squad mates depending on the direction you point your head. So I guess they are more advanced than the Tau in that too. The only thing the Tau have that's more advanced is railguns. Apparently there was never an STC for that.

Just out of curiosity, where does it say that the imperium has those microbeads? Is it in the codex or in some of the books?

Its def in the BL novels, FFG products and the Imperial Armour books - not sure if its mentioned in the codexes

Everyone has micro-beads. They even call them micro-beads.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:The Imperium also has micro beads that let you talk to specific squad mates depending on the direction you point your head. So I guess they are more advanced than the Tau in that too. The only thing the Tau have that's more advanced is railguns. Apparently there was never an STC for that.

How about Plasma that doesn't "Get Hot"

Tau have that!


Or Rifles that punch a hole through power armor like its paper?

Tau have that too!


Tau are the mighty putty of 40K.

Kilkrazy wrote:
The IoM stuff is like a big church organ full of pipes and wires.

Not true, their tech is simple as Tau one. Even the most sophisticated machines like Titans are frequently easy to use and they are easy to maintain.

You people took "AM are bunch of half human-half robot monkeys who keep tech working by punching it with a wrench. And their tech is so sophisticated that you could never get it wrapped it out" thing a LITTLE to seriously. It also goes "Tau tech is so awesome I wish I was Tau and not some stupid Human" thing.

Micro Beads.



Imperial Vox


Tau communicator

Kilkrazy wrote:Micro Beads.



Imperial Vox


Tau communicator

A voxcaster is not a microbead.
A microbead is the size of a standard military headset today, with a throat mic and an earbud. It has a functional range of a few hundred feet, and is susceptible to the types of interference you commonly see affecting radio transmissions today.
A voxcaster is a much bigger and specialized communications device. Voxcasters can broadcast data and audio bursts to orbiting ships, and those ships can increase the range of a voxcaster to intercontinental communication ranges. Voxcasters also have built-in encryption ciphers to prevent the enemy from being able to listen in like they theoretically can with microbeads.

Brother Coa wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:
The IoM stuff is like a big church organ full of pipes and wires.

Not true, their tech is simple as Tau one. Even the most sophisticated machines like Titans are frequently easy to use and they are easy to maintain.

You people took "AM are bunch of half human-half robot monkeys who keep tech working by punching it with a wrench And their tech is so sophisticated that you could never get it wrapped it out" thing a LITTLE to seriously. It also goes "Tau tech is so awesome I wish I was Tau and not some stupid Human" thing.

This is why the Imperium fails.

Kilkrazy wrote:

Nicholas wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:"There was some concern that a weaponised version might ignite the atmosphere, initiating a chain reaction and destroying the entire planet, but when I tested it, that did not happen.”

What is this quote for and from.

It's a comment on the Tau developing exterminatus weapons.

It comes from here... http://www.cg-lair.co.uk/daleks/secemp00.htm

Oh okay, but it sound like he didn't want it to happen, with all the I was worried talk. They might use it, but it doesn't seem like them to me.

How about Plasma that doesn't "Get Hot"

Tau have that!

So do IoM. Its on their vehicles and walkers, except its substantially stronger. Remember Tau manga suits are the same size as dreadnoughts.

Or Rifles that punch a hole through power armor like its paper?

Tau have that too!

*So do Marines (special shells, melta guns)
*So do Guard (hellguns, melta guns)
*So do Chicks with Sticks (melta guns)

Tau have many interesting technological toys. So do IoM. So do Eldar. So do Necrons.

BeefCakeSoup wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:
The IoM stuff is like a big church organ full of pipes and wires.

Not true, their tech is simple as Tau one. Even the most sophisticated machines like Titans are frequently easy to use and they are easy to maintain.

You people took "AM are bunch of half human-half robot monkeys who keep tech working by punching it with a wrench And their tech is so sophisticated that you could never get it wrapped it out" thing a LITTLE to seriously. It also goes "Tau tech is so awesome I wish I was Tau and not some stupid Human" thing.

This is why the Imperium fails.

I don't think you know much about the Mechanicus

I can see this thread is turning into another "nyah, nyah, nyah" thread so I'll lock it now.