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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 21:36:41
Subject: Re:steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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hello friends! update time again!
first answer to your comments:
at shaso:
the grill to the boiler is the smaller version of zinges stuff, on the tracks the grills are the bigger version...thanks for the praise of the stacks, i was rather lucky to get a technique to cut the points out without any dammage caused to the bobbins...i used a fitting piece of wood inside the bobbins and thus the knife had something to press against...rather easy but someone has to think about this idea^^ thankfully it was me^^
at anvildude:
thanks, i new you would like them, i rumaged around my box of odd bitz and came up with that... i knew i wouldn´t get away with plain stacks^^ and you bet that there will be when finished some black oily smoky clouds billowing out of the stacks^^
at shrike:
neil has done some awsome flame and smokeeffects with some cottonwool i guess...before i do mine i have to take a refreshing peek at his gallery for insights^^
so i said above update... and i did some work... glue work that is...i firstly glued the sponsons to the main body...the tracks are currently still free but will be glued later on... they stit however around the sponsons and thus i was able to provide you with a footage to show an actual now tanklike looking scratchbuild that is not anymore in fear of falling apart^^
also note the last pic is a scale shot to show how really big this beast is compared to a mere predator tank i have lying around^^ and no it is not in fact an epic predator^^
front:
backside:
and the scale comparrision to the predator:
talk about true scale... any tank that big is true! period^^ (as in: no one could say after being rolled over by thsi: i can´t believe it... look at the size of that thing...in this behemoth you don´t have to belive in... just trust yer eyes^^
as of now i know what needs to be done... the insides of the tracks need taking care rivets wise and also rivets on the turret and the body...but still i think some details are missing.... i think one is that i need a means of entrance to the beast... tho i have an escape hatch in the front...beneath the lower flamer, but still there needs to be a main entrance...any ideas of you more known tankapreciaters out there? also what else do you think is needed still? i am open for suggestions!
cheers, vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 21:41:53
Subject: Re:steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Fixture of Dakka
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that tank is really coming together now mate.
the scale was very...enlightening ^^
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corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 21:50:01
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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yup... i got pretty used to it´s size and then as i wanted to make scale shots for comparrision i thought why always use minis ? why not an actual tank...boy did i make a stupid face then...^^ the predator looks like a toy^^...er...then again...?°_°
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 22:19:47
Subject: Re:steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Fixture of Dakka
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Blimey, she is a big girl isn't she?
Hadn't quite grasped it was that big, all coming togehter nicely now
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 22:21:14
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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yep, definatly a big girl...with big guns^^
as of now i know what needs to be done... the insides of the tracks need taking care rivets wise and also rivets on the turret and the body...but still i think some details are missing.... i think one is that i need a means of entrance to the beast... tho i have an escape hatch in the front...beneath the lower flamer, but still there needs to be a main entrance...any ideas of you more known tankapreciaters out there? also what else do you think is needed still? i am open for suggestions!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 22:40:08
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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Think you need to make a plate on the back "We Brake for No One."
..or "We Brake for Crumpets."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 22:43:34
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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lol^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 22:50:07
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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LOL! Vik the tank of yours is truly massive! I think it even is bigger than Perun! I was inspired by you pics to take some size compariosns with a chimera and leman exterminator.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 23:00:49
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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*looks sheepish* do you recon i overdid the size? well one thing is for sure... the aim was a more truescale tank...and then the predator is a very tiny can to begin with...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 23:05:03
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Superheavies are allowed such scale Vik! You did it! that is looking about 1.75 times the width, and definitely twice the height of the Perun! I used a Chimera as they are about the same dimensions roughly as the predator. A Mighty big tank for the Apocalyptic future battlefield! It would make a Baneblade nervous! A definite 4structure point beast!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 23:06:43
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
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A big girl with big guns indeedy!
and well stacked if I may so say
super stuff Vik just great to see how big she is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 23:08:26
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i recon she must have at least a crew up to 10 men... i think she collects men^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 23:18:44
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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I calculate that my Perun needs 10men, my estimate is that you need more for the steam system needs feeding crew as well as maintenance, maybe a 12 man crew as high as 14 for some land battleships!
Let us see, the 4 sponson guns, the driver, heavy flamer system, the main gun needs loader and gunner, commander, and at least an enginseer and servitors for the engines., 12 men needed,
Perun needs 4 sponson gunners, driver, radio/bow gunner, barbette operator, turret needs gunner and commander, and an enginseer.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 23:22:45
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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that is a reasonable amount of crew, i before thought about two feeding and maintanance but i think your aproach is far much sensible. when i see this amount of crew i am a bit reminded at the manpower a stardestroyer of star wars needed...namly over 10.000 people... think about that when you see next time one of those ships going boom^^
by the way do you recon where i should make some entrance hatches? i am currently out of my wit where to add them...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/12 23:57:29
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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For a construct that big, safest areas are the belly and the rear. I would make a hatch to the left or the right lower rear. maybe a ladder on the back to the entry hatch on the panel just close to the stack. OR the lower facing panel on the mudd facing plate. Some tanks also had side armor door hatches made of armor for the crew to climb in through and then lock. Looking at the side panels, it will need a "ladder" and then be close to the front sponson area. But one on each side would also work. The belly hatch is usually an emergency hatch for escapes.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 00:47:12
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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I see that, I think "Hey, looking good! The fretwork's really nice."
I see the second pic, with the scale, I go "Bwuuuhhh??!!"
That is BIIIIGGGGG!
Er, rather, GGRRROOOOOßßßßßßßEEEE!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 01:39:00
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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True Vik has built Ein Riesige-Dampf-Panzer!
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/06/13 01:40:55
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 11:22:21
Subject: steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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i see you all get fluent through steampunk in german^^ thanks
anvildude.. when i took the scaleshot pic i thought nothing of it... then i first saw it on screen i thought...urghh this can´t be right... then i thought NO, this is exactly right...a heavy monster like that must be that big...and with this monster one can actually imagine a crew fighting and living inside for some time! and when will we see some of your work? (haven´t forgotten about that^^)
at shaso: i think you are right i will try to make a basic deign of a hatch... i even thought of making hatches on each spnson on the top... tho then i wouldn´t know how the crew might climb there... the union jack is a definite likitation to the design...points for style... minus points for use it seems^^
the position near or beneath the stacks is a good idea, there it probably will be in good use...and i ladder i also have from zinge that just waites to be used^^ so if i am able to make some work done on the heavy then this will be it!
vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 11:27:25
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Wow, it looks awesome. Great work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 11:34:33
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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thanks mate^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 22:53:20
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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I don't know. Probably as soon as I can either borrow my Vater's Smart Phone, or when I find the USB cable for my digital camera.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/13 23:09:51
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Viktor von Domm wrote:i see you all get fluent through steampunk in german^^ thanks
just looked it up on a translation program
at shaso: i think you are right i will try to make a basic deign of a hatch... i even thought of making hatches on each spnson on the top... tho then i wouldn´t know how the crew might climb there... the union jack is a definite likitation to the design...points for style... minus points for use it seems^^
the position near or beneath the stacks is a good idea, there it probably will be in good use...and i ladder i also have from zinge that just waites to be used^^ so if i am able to make some work done on the heavy then this will be it!
vik
But those points for style are part of the Vik-torians style. As for hatches, yeah, side hatches and that rear hatch with ladder parts for crew access.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 07:46:05
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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did a rear hatch and will show pics later, and yep you are right, one of the major aspects of the steamtank is the style...totally flies via rule of cool^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 07:54:12
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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Exactly, rule of cool applies, especially at the massive Apocalyptic scale battles.
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 08:25:59
Subject: Re:steampunkish/modern Praetorians... now with new pics of scratchbuilt tank WIP...
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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Wow , she's a big un, I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny.....etc..
well big is certainly beautiful when it comes to your gargant,
the eteam pipes , or exploded cigars are my favourite. really gives it that Vik - Torian look . You have really outdone yourself on this project matey , and you should be justifiably proud of your great achievements . Your even being referenced in the venerable Monkey Trolls thread , along with some other notable dakka genious
Look forward to seeing your engine grill in place . and then the funtimes of painting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 11:16:50
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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Look forward to seeing your engine grill in place
er...should there be another one still? what withndetails i am currently a bit low on ideas here...also the tank feels sometimes a bit cramped with stuff...next big work is finishing the riveting on the inside of the tracks and also some on the turret...and the body...then truly the painting might begin...*starts chewing fingernails*^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 11:42:18
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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Oh yeah i forgot i already saw it  I dont think the tank needs any more details , it is fine as is .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 13:01:41
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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"pheww" *wipes away sweat* ^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 13:05:36
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Tinkering Tech-Priest
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As good as the detailings and style of the tank are I think its quite a bit too big.
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If your going to do something wrong, do it right!!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/14 13:11:00
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Dakka Veteran
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Wow!
That's really big - almost beats the ZEUS
The proportions of the tank by itself look quite right and harmonic. However, to me the driver position and the hight turret seem to be too high - at least compared to the tiny tank.
Maybe you could do a scale shot with a standard IG trooper in front and one on the fender?
I think this would give an better idea of the scale and proportions - as those old tanks were in no relation to any reasonable size anyway
Cheers
Klaus
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