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Da krimson barun wrote:

 McNinja wrote:

BunnyCommando wrote:

Or not. Current scuttlebutt is that the Hobbit has been delayed to to unforeseen circumstances (i.e one of the models didn't meet somebodies standards).

Not surprised at all...

Can someone PLEASE find a SOURCE for this bullcrap scuttlebutt?And well:Unless I'm mistaken miniatures are made almost a year in advance.At this point they would be boxed and ready to ship.It would be a bit late.And gw has NEVER had a model on a base bigger then 40mm in a LOTR/Hobbit starter pack.(True they never made one bigger then 25mm before moM but still)what would they have in it other then smaug anyway?Bilbo would be the only option and all scenarios would end either:
Scorched hobbit
Mutilated hobbit
Eaten hobbit.
Its going to be mirkwood.Either(Or both)spiders/orcs
Vs Thorins company/Elves.(or Thorins company vs elves....

I would think that it's Mirkwood too. I would have thought that GW would have had more problems last year after there was terrible advance photos across all the range. Lots of photos of Bolg who wasn't in the movie and no pics of Azog anywhere. Whilst I am sure GW would have loved to have Smaug out at Christmas I suspect that the sheer scale would be an issue. Going from the first movie Smaug is at least as large as two Mumakil (the giant "elephants"). I think that it's just people guessing. I know form some of what I have heard from the film that there is a bit of a scene with Smaug vs the Dwarves because the Dwarves don't actually face Smaug in the book. So yes, I can see Smaug being a problem, but I can not believe that he would be part of a 'big box' starter game.

If you work back in the thread you can find who first posted the possible Smaug not meeting design standards....

While GW hasn't had a very large based model in a LOTR?Hobbit starter pack before he's a major element of the film and Newline would want maximum possible exposure so having him in it makes sense from a contract point of view, then GW has to fit him in

As to this sort of stuff being work out well in advance, es it probably was, but depending on what the contract said, and whether GW protested about a request for a redesign we may only now be hearing about something that happened 2,3 or 4 months ago

(or perhaps changes were demanded, and made, but production didn't happen fast enough on the 'new' figure and they could try a release with far to few sets like the Tau mess, or postpone for a better showing later)

this is not to say the rumour is true, but it certainly seems plausable

Da krimson barun wrote:
Actually the hobbit is on the 13th(Unlucky number) and the nids MIGHT be on the 7th.They released last years white dwarf normally and well:What's the point of hiding smaug?He's in EVERY trailer.It is his movie after all.

I have yet to see a trailer that actually shows Smaug. His voice, and fire, sure, but not the actual body of the dragon.

I wonder how bad it must have been for New Line to say no to. Surely there must be leaked pictures of it floating around? Perhaps one day we will see. I'd imagine that kind of thing would sour a relationship.

How easy do you think it would be for GW to back out of their deal with New Line Cinema? I don't think the Hobbit has been anywhere near as profitable as the LotR was for them. Perhaps it's time to let it die?

 streamdragon wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Actually the hobbit is on the 13th(Unlucky number) and the nids MIGHT be on the 7th.They released last years white dwarf normally and well:What's the point of hiding smaug?He's in EVERY trailer.It is his movie after all.

I have yet to see a trailer that actually shows Smaug. His voice, and fire, sure, but not the actual body of the dragon.

Spoiler: 1:49

 Absolutionis wrote:

 streamdragon wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Actually the hobbit is on the 13th(Unlucky number) and the nids MIGHT be on the 7th.They released last years white dwarf normally and well:What's the point of hiding smaug?He's in EVERY trailer.It is his movie after all.

I have yet to see a trailer that actually shows Smaug. His voice, and fire, sure, but not the actual body of the dragon.

Spoiler: 1:49

Spoiler:

Even that only teases his head, and doesn't show the full scale of the beast. I have to say though, I am quite excited for this one!

 streamdragon wrote:

Da krimson barun wrote:
Actually the hobbit is on the 13th(Unlucky number) and the nids MIGHT be on the 7th.They released last years white dwarf normally and well:What's the point of hiding smaug?He's in EVERY trailer.It is his movie after all.

I have yet to see a trailer that actually shows Smaug. His voice, and fire, sure, but not the actual body of the dragon.

You are yet to see a hobbit trailer.Unless your thinking of TV spots.

There will be no new Hobbit starter this December. Call me the source, if you want.

TechMarine1 wrote:
Someone at my FLGS posited that Tyranids might have been moved up to December because New Line Cinema was unhappy with the new Hobbit models.

Finally found it.And where did he hear that?As far as I can tell it was his OPINION.So:Should I believe the OPINION of a person who I have never heard of that as far as I know has never had a idea proven right?or should I listen to common sense?kroothawk:And how do you know that?Where did you hear it?Evidence?No just:There isn't going to be a hobbit starter set ha not like gw has a contract...

A lot of people are saying that it is significant that we have not heard any new Tyranid rumors for some time. But isn't also significant that we have heard next to nothing about the Hobbit release?

Well has anybody seen ANY rumour for the hobbit?Like at all?young thorin,Gandalf mk 98...Thing is nobody actually has a hobbit rumour site while 40k/fantasy has like five big ones.Since its probably GW actually starting a few of the rumours(for hype)They can't reveal anything for fear of new line getting ANGRY for spoilers.Also ninety% of the rumour makers dont give a crap about the hobbit.This is getting very off topic though.On topic(kinda):I hope hive/Tyrant guard cost centurion prices.Why?Nid player deserve punishment for trying to get their codex a month early..

The person saying that somebody at their FLGS came a couple of pages after the actual rumour. Just go back and read the thread.

Da krimson barun wrote:

TechMarine1 wrote:
Someone at my FLGS posited that Tyranids might have been moved up to December because New Line Cinema was unhappy with the new Hobbit models.

Finally found it.And where did he hear that?As far as I can tell it was his OPINION.So:Should I believe the OPINION of a person who I have never heard of that as far as I know has never had a idea proven right?or should I listen to common sense?kroothawk:And how do you know that?Where did you hear it?Evidence?No just:There isn't going to be a hobbit starter set ha not like gw has a contract...

I will not reveal where I got that info from, but I will create a link to your post for future reference

Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

Da krimson barun wrote:
You are yet to see a hobbit trailer.Unless your thinking of TV spots.

Your thinking is faulty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os1G8RtqY2c

(sadly... looks pants. I still have a capacity for pity towards GW, who have been forced to buy into a turkey).

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

A bit much don't you think?

Barun- be careful what you wish for, I'm sure the Orks will get Centurion treatment on the costs of their stuff too.

I do wish we would get some more leaks or some iron clad release info! refreshing the rumor sites all day at work gets tiring

I wonder if the problem with Smaug is that he was too small as a mini. Just looking at the size of his head compared to Bilbo would mean the miniature would need to be bigger than a thunderhawk.

It's going to be a 6 month release. Coming in December- Smaug's head! January- Smaug's left leg! etc...

Da krimson barun wrote:
Stunning.You won't even say where you heard it.THE most believable rumour ever.So much Evidence.NOT.

Such is the nature of rumors. You can believe them, or not, but until the rumored event happens (or doesn't happen, in this case), there's not a lot to do about it. So relax, and we'll see if Kroot is correct or not in under a month.

BeeCee wrote:
It's going to be a 6 month release. Coming in December- Smaug's head! January- Smaug's left leg! etc...

This would actually be kind of awesome.

 Lord Scythican wrote:
I wonder if the problem with Smaug is that he was too small as a mini. Just looking at the size of his head compared to Bilbo would mean the miniature would need to be bigger than a thunderhawk.

That most mean it's going to be a lot of money! Yay!!

Okay this is going of topic lets move on...

BeeCee wrote:
Barun- be careful what you wish for, I'm sure the Orks will get Centurion treatment on the costs of their stuff too.

The only centurion sized thing we have that would make a good three pack are meganobz.And well they already cost the same as centurions.Still this will haunt me...But at least da boyz don't say a entire game will be destroyed!(Cause if there was no smaug:no game.No Bilbo:no game.No spess muhrines:NO game.)

1. The Desolation of Smaug looks to be a pretty amazing film. I'm one of those who liked An Unexpected Journey and found it to be better each time I viewed it. I also didn't go in expecting the same thing as LotR, because it's not based on a book with an even remotely similar feel or scope.

As a side note: Whenever someone's first and only critique of a movie is that it changed something from the book, I immediately discredit them as having a valid viewpoint. Of course it will change; page and screen are not the same medium, don't capture head-space the same way, have different pacing, character development, etc.

2. A model for Smaug would have to be HUGE. It would be the largest multi-part plastic kit in existence, if GW plans on getting the scale right. Think of a box more akin to the 1.5 times the size of the Lord of Skulls or Tesseract Vault kits.

The good news for GW is that Smaug would sell even to people who don't play the game. He's an iconic figure in fantasy (and soon to be cinema), so it would become a bit of a collector's item. GW could even make it a limited edition release if they really wanted to rake it in fast.

BeeCee wrote:
It's going to be a 6 month release. Coming in December- Smaug's head! January- Smaug's left leg! etc...

So Smaug is Exodia.

And Gandalf is going to change to Dark.

Enough with the hobbit crap already...

Does the Hobbit or Lotr games have a large following? Because I've hardly ever seen it mentioned and I've only met 1 guy that wanted to play it.

Where do I go for Tyranid discussion?

Enough with The Hobbit.

 Kroothawk wrote:
There will be no new Hobbit starter this December. Call me the source, if you want.

But here is the sticky part....did you hear that Tyranids are in December?