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 Platuan4th wrote:
I really hope that "CSM units can become TS" thing is true. My TS Raptors and Havoks will be so happy.

I hope so too, since that would create the precedent that we could see Noise Termies and Havocs agien. I seem to recall at a point their was even Noise Bikers would could swap their twin-linked bolters for sonic blasters back in 3.5..... But I could be wrong/a old miss reading.

Would that rule make it so the squad leader upgrade confers aspiring sorcerer to the model?

can't wait for that fluff review

Ahriman at 230 HQ (rubric become troops if he’s in the army)

WARNING! WARNING!

DANGER! DANGER!

Can Rubrics be Troops without Ahriman? That sets a very dangerous precedent if not, meaning the fears of the old days where the only way to play various Marine Chapters was to bring a special character would bleed over to Chaos. Want Noise Marines as troops? Better bring Lucius? Want a Death Guard army? I 'spose Typhus better show up to every battle.

I would really like clarification/correction on this.

 mortetvie wrote:
GW said that the aspiring sorcerers can be added to Rubric and Scarab units, implying they are optional. So that may shed some doubt on the rumors, or GW is wrong in how they described their units.

Not quite. The GW website says that one model in those units can be built as a Sorcerer, no different to any squad that contains parts of a character. You never have to build that character though, and may be buying a box to bulk up other squads you already have. That does not mean that the rules require the character.

It just means the box can be 10 Rubrics/5 Terminators or 9 Rubrics & 1 Asp Sorcerer/4 Terminators & 1 Sorcerer.

Don't read anything else into that.

Can I put a lord of change in my CSM detachment? Holy heck that would make me happy

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ahriman at 230 HQ (rubric become troops if he’s in the army)

WARNING! WARNING!

DANGER! DANGER!

Can Rubrics be Troops without Ahriman? That sets a very dangerous precedent if not, meaning the fears of the old days where the only way to play various Marine Chapters was to bring a special character would bleed over to Chaos. Want Noise Marines as troops? Better bring Lucius? Want a Death Guard army? I 'spose Typhus better show up to every battle.

I would really like clarification/correction on this.

 mortetvie wrote:
GW said that the aspiring sorcerers can be added to Rubric and Scarab units, implying they are optional. So that may shed some doubt on the rumors, or GW is wrong in how they described their units.

Not quite. The GW website says that one model in those units can be built as a Sorcerer, no different to any squad that contains parts of a character. You never have to build that character though, and may be buying a box to bulk up other squads you already have. That does not mean that the rules require the character.

It just means the box can be 10 Rubrics/5 Terminators or 9 Rubrics & 1 Asp Sorcerer/4 Terminators & 1 Sorcerer.

Don't read anything else into that.

The first question was answered. Certain formations that give three rules can make them troops also.
Aspiring Sorcerers are part of the Rubric squad, 4+1

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ahriman at 230 HQ (rubric become troops if he’s in the army)

WARNING! WARNING!
DANGER! DANGER!

Can Rubrics be Troops without Ahriman? That sets a very dangerous precedent if not, meaning the fears of the old days where the only way to play various Marine Chapters was to bring a special character would bleed over to Chaos. Want Noise Marines as troops? Better bring Lucius? Want a Death Guard army? I 'spose Typhus better show up to every battle.

I would really like clarification/correction on this.

In the current Chaos Codex all the cult choices are elites right now.

BUT. A Lord with their respective god mark, unlocks the corresponding Cult Troops to that mark as a troop choice. Except Tzeetch. You get rubrics as a troop choice when a Scor has the MoT.

So what this rule more or less means in that Ahriman counts as a MoT Scor for this rule.

160 points for a lvl 2 psyker? That's so bad it can't possibly be true.

 Virules wrote:
160 points for a lvl 2 psyker? That's so bad it can't possibly be true.

Better include a spell familiar at _least_.

 Virules wrote:
160 points for a lvl 2 psyker? That's so bad it can't possibly be true.

Even with an unlimited range beam-lance (even if only once) and all the other potential extras?

Anyone know when the US site goes up for pre-orders these days?

Debilitate wrote:

 Virules wrote:
160 points for a lvl 2 psyker? That's so bad it can't possibly be true.

Better include a spell familiar at _least_.

considering a Sorceror ML 3, MoT with familiar is 140 pts i do hope he comes with that aswell.
while that S9 ap 2 lance blast may be nice to have its not worth 35-60 points (depending on if he really is only ML 2 and not 3)

Daedalus81 wrote:
Anyone know when the US site goes up for pre-orders these days?

About 1 PM Eastern Standard Time.

One formation even doubles the amount of horrors spawned from their colorful kin

OH THE HORROR! THE HUMANITY OF IT ALL!!!


2000pt list
200 Pink Horrors = 2600 Wounds (200 Pink Horrors, 800 Blue Horrors and 1600 Brimstone Horrors (If Brimstone are 2w each which I don't know if confirmed)).

Horrible horde of horrors.

Thanks for sharing this, any word on the exalted sorcerers, are they as good as they look and why only the one disk in the box?
Never mind I found it, cheers

 MadCowCrazy wrote:

One formation even doubles the amount of horrors spawned from their colorful kin

OH THE HORROR! THE HUMANITY OF IT ALL!!!


2000pt list
200 Pink Horrors = 2600 Wounds (200 Pink Horrors, 800 Blue Horrors and 1600 Brimstone Horrors (If Brimstone are 2w each which I don't know if confirmed)).

Well according to the leak pink horrors are 90pts so it is 2650 wounds for 20 pink horrors.

I wonder if the smaller horrors will have brotherhood of psyker too: thats it, kill my pink horrors, you're only giving me more warp charge MWAHAHAHAHA!

The blue and brimstone horrors do come with Bro of sorcerers.

 VeteranNoob wrote:
The blue and brimstone horrors do come with Bro of sorcerers.

You're amazing! Keep up the solid work!

 VeteranNoob wrote:
The blue and brimstone horrors do come with Bro of sorcerers.

Everything about this release (other than the prices) is looking to be perfect.

Is that 3 to 9 units of terminators for that formation or a unit of 3 to 9 terminators?

LightKing wrote:
Tzangors are in AOS too

jesus christ how many of the same characters does 40k and AOS have....same chaos, same beastmen etc.

Everything in Codex Chaos Daemons, and all units from Codex Chaos Marines that are not futuristic.

 adamsouza wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Tzangors are in AOS too

jesus christ how many of the same characters does 40k and AOS have....same chaos, same beastmen etc.

Everything in Codex Chaos Daemons, and all units from Codex Chaos Marines that are not futuristic.

The Eldar and Ork gods are in both too.

Thanks for the review, VeteranNoob

 adamsouza wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Tzangors are in AOS too

jesus christ how many of the same characters does 40k and AOS have....same chaos, same beastmen etc.

Everything in Codex Chaos Daemons, and all units from Codex Chaos Marines that are not futuristic.

that seems quite lazy to be honest that GW shares characters for both universes

What? This is the very essence of Chaos since the game universes were created

LightKing wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Tzangors are in AOS too

jesus christ how many of the same characters does 40k and AOS have....same chaos, same beastmen etc.

Everything in Codex Chaos Daemons, and all units from Codex Chaos Marines that are not futuristic.

that seems quite lazy to be honest that GW shares characters for both universes

At least they bothered to make two different games. coughwarmahordescough

LightKing wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Tzangors are in AOS too

jesus christ how many of the same characters does 40k and AOS have....same chaos, same beastmen etc.

Everything in Codex Chaos Daemons, and all units from Codex Chaos Marines that are not futuristic.

that seems quite lazy to be honest that GW shares characters for both universes

The universes were at one point linked (if not very heavily hinted at being linked); I.e the old world, the old fantasy setting, used to be a world in the 40k universe. They moved away from that but Chaos is still in both (it's such an integral part of each setting).

LightKing wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Tzangors are in AOS too

jesus christ how many of the same characters does 40k and AOS have....same chaos, same beastmen etc.

Everything in Codex Chaos Daemons, and all units from Codex Chaos Marines that are not futuristic.

that seems quite lazy to be honest that GW shares characters for both universes

Not soo much when you realize that AOS exists on a single planet inside the 40K universe

LightKing wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:

LightKing wrote:
Tzangors are in AOS too

jesus christ how many of the same characters does 40k and AOS have....same chaos, same beastmen etc.

Everything in Codex Chaos Daemons, and all units from Codex Chaos Marines that are not futuristic.

that seems quite lazy to be honest that GW shares characters for both universes

It's a holdover from when 40k was litterally just fantasy battle IN SPACE!

LightKing wrote:


that seems quite lazy to be honest that GW shares characters for both universes

Lazy? Possibly. It's not a bad idea though if it generates more sales for the range. 40k is all about the mutants and whatnot anyway, so it's nice they're bringing back some variety to CSM forces.