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grimdark83 wrote:
so the darkelves are going to be spread among 3 months? I call BS

The army bundle won't likely have anything unique in it, so 2 months.

On the pricing, Corsairs are currently £15.50 for ten models. So I don't see them making the new Warriors boxset £30 for ten as that would just mean less people using Warriors as Corsairs are cheaper.

Unless they double the price of Corsairs, that is.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
On the pricing, Corsairs are currently £15.50 for ten models. So I don't see them making the new Warriors boxset £30 for ten as that would just mean less people using Warriors as Corsairs are cheaper.

Unless they double the price of Corsairs, that is.

Oh, lord - they probably will. Get ready for Good News! Dark Elves players...

-C6

Actually I don't believe the 2 month Dark Elf release rumour.
Some people have the complete release list plus pics. Those leaks usually come from early WD leaks. Doubtfull that WD shows the releases of two months or people have pics of the next two WDs.
So I keep on expecting Tyranids in November.

I am just the messenger

zhangyi over at Warseer wrote:so it's clear now, that DE will be released during two months. October we will have warrior, witch elves, blood throne, Kharibdyss (dont know what is it), and a plastic shadowblade.
as we can see GW has put bg, chariot and dark riders to next month along with innocence(the 40K table game,i'm 95% certain that it will be in November). for good reason we can split our money to two months. that's really kind.
for the price:
shadowblade, £12
warrior,£20
witch,£35
throne,£45
kha…balabalabala,£40
(...)
i cant say where i get these news. but it's certain, and we only have these toys this month. do not be disappointed, cause it's clear we have a second wave.

melonmelon over at Warseer wrote:October release:

Dreadspears(Warriors?) £20
Shadowblade £12
Witch Elves £35
Cauldron of Blood £45
Kharibdyss £40

from indie retailer, BTW no pic.

edit: Army book and Magic Card set too, but no "battleforce".

If those two month release rumors are true, it'd be interesting if GW went back to a sort of wave approach with their releases. I figure they had to slow down eventually with the codex/armybook releases, so it makes sense to start spacing things out like that for armies that need a significant number of new plastics.

 Kroothawk wrote:
I am just the messenger

zhangyi over at Warseer wrote:so it's clear now, that DE will be released during two months. October we will have warrior, witch elves, blood throne, Kharibdyss (dont know what is it), and a plastic shadowblade.
as we can see GW has put bg, chariot and dark riders to next month along with innocence(the 40K table game,i'm 95% certain that it will be in November). for good reason we can split our money to two months. that's really kind.
for the price:
shadowblade, £12
warrior,£20
witch,£35
throne,£45
kha…balabalabala,£40
(...)
i cant say where i get these news. but it's certain, and we only have these toys this month. do not be disappointed, cause it's clear we have a second wave.

melonmelon over at Warseer wrote:October release:

Dreadspears(Warriors?) £20
Shadowblade £12
Witch Elves £35
Cauldron of Blood £45
Kharibdyss £40

from indie retailer, BTW no pic.

edit: Army book and Magic Card set too, but no "battleforce".

Why are there no links to the original source of this?

Quite surprised there are no pics is WD not out next Saturday?

Wait, so the army book doesn't drop until a month after the first models? Those models will sell for crap until we have a book and know if they are worth taking at all.

 Aerethan wrote:
Wait, so the army book doesn't drop until a month after the first models? Those models will sell for crap until we have a book and know if they are worth taking at all.

Maybe, but if the models are good enough I can see people buying them blind.

Plus it might be a way to alleviate the stock issues that some people have reported.

We know they've been having major printing issues (which is one reason the digital supplements are dropping several months before the hard copies)

this might be another reason for a DE double release, they simply could not get the book printed and distributed in time, so splitting the release into two months lets them catch up on the printing for this and everything else

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
Wait, so the army book doesn't drop until a month after the first models? Those models will sell for crap until we have a book and know if they are worth taking at all.

Maybe, but if the models are good enough I can see people buying them blind.

Plus it might be a way to alleviate the stock issues that some people have reported.

The only models I've ever bought without reading the book first are characters that I want to paint regardless of how good they are.

I'm not going to drop $200 on some models that MIGHT be useful.

Honestly, GW could release books a week before models and see a better spread in sales since it gives people time to work out their lists and plan their purchases.

A November book means that I won't actually be buying any models until nearly December when I've got my main list finalized.

 Aerethan wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
Wait, so the army book doesn't drop until a month after the first models? Those models will sell for crap until we have a book and know if they are worth taking at all.

Maybe, but if the models are good enough I can see people buying them blind.

Plus it might be a way to alleviate the stock issues that some people have reported.

The only models I've ever bought without reading the book first are characters that I want to paint regardless of how good they are.

I'm not going to drop $200 on some models that MIGHT be useful.

Honestly, GW could release books a week before models and see a better spread in sales since it gives people time to work out their lists and plan their purchases.

A November book means that I won't actually be buying any models until nearly December when I've got my main list finalized.

I can understand what you mean but given that the October releases includes the Warrior box(which purportedly can make 3 different types) along with the Witch Elves and a plastic Shadowblade(I'm guessing this is going to be just a generic Assassin rather than Shadowblade himself) it is a fairly safe set of releases--aside from the Throne/Cauldron and Hydra(I'm guessing that is what Kharibdys refers to).

I thought the books went to print months before release, surely any problem with the printings should be fixed by now. If they are going to wait untill november for the book to release, they should wait untill november to release models. I dont want some number cruncher to look at october and think, HMM this fantasy army sold like crap, not thinking to himself the reason is because theres no friggin book, and then telling the higher ups about another failing of fantasy.

If the book is being delayed due to printing issues, why isn't there then a digital release right away? They have been doing that with other supplements that have been delayed. The Black Legion is the most recent example I can think of.

I'm not saying it's a certainty, rather a possibility

fixing printing issues is not going to be quick, either requiring a new/additional printer or convincing the current one to install more capacity which the might not be willing or able to do in the short term

and I'd guess the reason for not dropping the digital first is when books come out at once folk (in my area anyway) tend to grab a hard copy

then a fair few spring for the digital somewhat later on, if the digital come first they may be a fear that the hardcopy will sit on the shelf

whereas they might feel the supplements will only ever sell one or the other to the majority of folk

 Aerethan wrote:
Wait, so the army book doesn't drop until a month after the first models?

Where does it say that? All I see is some models shifted over to November, which might actually be a reasonable thing to do if GW thinks there's not enough market to absorb 7 plastic kits in one month.

The armybook is obviously scheduled for October according to these rumours. Some rumours only talk about the models though, not the book or the magic cards.

 Zweischneid wrote:
Why are there no links to the original source of this?

Warseer is a prominent and well known forum discussing Games Workshop products. http://www.warseer.com/forums/forum.php
Dark Elves are part of their Fantasy range, so discussed in their Warhammer Fantasy subsection.
If you are interested in news&rumours for Warhammer Fantasy, go to the "Warhammer News & Rumour Discussion" subforum.
If you are interested in news about Dark Elves, you will find them in the Dark Elves thread. Hope that helps.

Split doesn't bother me, although those prices are much healthier than I was fearing.. if correct of course.

Just waiting for pics now.

My apologies, I read the update about the split release incorrectly, and thought the second half were the November releases.

I'm 100% fine with the book releasing along with the core units that will be mandatory, and then letting people flesh out their lists before dropping the elite units.

As it stands, I already own 25 spears and 40 cross bows, so if I do buy the new core it will be for swordsmen ony.

 Aerethan wrote:
As it stands, I already own 25 spears and 40 cross bows, so if I do buy the new core it will be for swordsmen ony.

Reminds me of 3rd edition Dark Eldar players ...

BTW here a Chinese store listing the new Dark Elf products (found by Tyras over at Warseer, no pics yet):
http://wargame.taobao.com/category-53916176.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-162256593.60.2DrXBY&mid=w-162256593-0&search=y&parentCatId=53915644&parentCatName=%D6%D0%B9%C5%D5%BD%B4%B8&catName=Dark+Elves+%B0%B5%BE%AB&catId=53916176&pageNo=2#anchor

I'm sure the new core will be nicer looking, but at ~$30 per 10, I'm looking at 7 boxes to replace what I've already got, and $210 is a lot of money to just replace my models with pretty.

Odd, don't we normally have leaked pics by now?

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
As it stands, I already own 25 spears and 40 cross bows, so if I do buy the new core it will be for swordsmen ony.

Reminds me of 3rd edition Dark Eldar players ...

BTW here a Chinese store listing the new Dark Elf products (found by Tyras over at Warseer, no pics yet):
http://wargame.taobao.com/category-53916176.htm?spm=a1z10.5.w4002-162256593.60.2DrXBY&mid=w-162256593-0&search=y&parentCatId=53915644&parentCatName=%D6%D0%B9%C5%D5%BD%B4%B8&catName=Dark+Elves+%B0%B5%BE%AB&catId=53916176&pageNo=2#anchor

FWIW, Chinese Yuan is almost exactly a 10:1 exchange rate to the GBP, so that might give some insight in to likely prices, as the Chinese RRP isn't overly different. (might not give exact price with this formula, but will give good indication of bracket)

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
Odd, don't we normally have leaked pics by now?

Leaked pics usually drop during the week that culminates with a weekend WD rekease and preorders. So, any day now.
However gw seems to be experimenting with some new formula for "leaked" pics and building sjuspence, so its hard to say what they plan.

Rumour from me, I was told that there was no release in october. Although it might be my source falling from grace.

Glemigobles over at Warseer wrote:Ok, so as it was already said here - Dark elves are coming 05.X.13 and we won't get all the things listed by Lion. As mentioned before:
Book - 20 eur
Magic cards - 3 eur
Dark Elves Dreadspears - 18 eur
Dark Elves Witch Elves - 30 eur
Dark Elves Kharibdyss/Hydra - 35eur
Dark Elves Cauldron of Blood - 38 eur
Shadowblade - 10 eur

Prices given for Polish retailers
(...)
Yup my bad - real names are:
Witch elves/Sisters of Slaughter
Cauldron/Bloodwrack Shrine
Dreadspears/Darkshards/Bleakswords

The book price is certainly not the one for English and German hardcover editions with usually is 36-39€, other prices also seem considerably reduced. At least we now have official names (and the names on the boxes, you know, English and French only).

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Rumour from me, I was told that there was no release in october. Although it might be my source falling from grace.

No release at all? Kick your source where it hurts

Dreadspears/Darkshards/Bleakswords

Wow...

 RiTides wrote:

Dreadspears/Darkshards/Bleakswords

Wow...

I think it sounds better than "Warriors"

More warseer confirmation:
via Glemigobles on Warseer
Ok, so as it was already said here - Dark elves are coming 05.X.13 and we won't get all the things listed by Lion. As mentioned before:
Book - 20 eur
Magic cards - 3 eur
Dark Elves Dreadspears/Darkshards/Bleakswords - 18 eur
Dark Elves Witch elves/Sisters of Slaughter - 30 eur
Dark Elves Kharibdyss/Hydra - 35eur
Dark Elves Cauldron/Bloodwrack Shrine- 38 eur
Shadowblade - 10 eur