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Uhh.... Nothing? If you want to know about the Sang Guard specifically you could read your current book. Or a wiki.

Kangodo wrote:

They'd have to delete all the Sanguinary Guard-fluff and replace it with what?

Welcome to Codex: Necrons. Want to get the fluff? Buy the 2002 codex on ebay or read it up online.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Welcome to Codex: Necrons. Want to get the fluff? Buy the 2002 codex on ebay or read it up online.

Their fluff had a slight change, it wasn't completely removed.
Except for Pariahs and we all know how you feel about that

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:
And all of that Marginalizes yet another chapter like the Black Templars.

When literally everything that made them different is still there?

Besides, BT haven't been marginalized, they have access to a greater array of units and weapons and options than ever before, still retain their "unique" troops unit and some special rules. They lost some things, but who's to say they'd have retained them in a new codex either? Very little from that 4E era survived intact.

So if Khorne Berzerkers were to lose Furious Charge and WS5 but gained Fear, as well as Khorne players getting access to Sorcerers with Mark of Khorne then that'd be fine, because the number of options expanded and they still got some sort of special rule, so they should just shut up? The loss of the Vow system, the castration of the Emperor's Champion and the axing of Righteous Zeal really hurt the book.

When an upgrade from 4th edition to 6th edition is arguably a nerf, the army in question is probably marginalized.

Were the Imperial Knights in the novels, or were they made up for their Codex?

If its the latter, I think they should have been added to the Grey Knight Codex. They're basically the Super-heavy vehicle version of a Dreadknight. They would have given Grey Knights the new unit everyone wanted, counterballencing the lost units. Mechanically they would have given Grey Knights some long range firepower with anti-vehicle and anti-infantry options. The only thing missing would be an anti-air option.

And if they were combined, other armies could still take the Imperial Knights without a Grey Knight detachment simply by GW putting a 1-3 Imperial Knight formation, being as formations act as separate detachments of their own.

If GW had released the Imperial Knights as new units for the new Grey Knight Codex instead of making them a separate codex, not only would there not be the amount of complaining about the update, but it would also encourage Grey Knight Players to all buy the new giant model. For non-Grey Knight players, they'd have to buy the model and a codex anyway, so this way they're buying the book for the same price, but are getting the rules for a whole other faction as well, not just the Imperial Knights.

ForeverARookie wrote:
Were the Imperial Knights in the novels, or were they made up for their Codex?

If its the latter, I think they should have been added to the Grey Knight Codex. They're basically the Super-heavy vehicle version of a Dreadknight. They would have given Grey Knights the new unit everyone wanted, counterballencing the lost units. Mechanically they would have given Grey Knights some long range firepower with anti-vehicle and anti-infantry options. The only thing missing would be an anti-air option.

And if they were combined, other armies could still take the Imperial Knights without a Grey Knight detachment simply by GW putting a 1-3 Imperial Knight formation, being as formations act as separate detachments of their own.

If GW had released the Imperial Knights as new units for the new Grey Knight Codex instead of making them a separate codex, not only would there not be the amount of complaining about the update, but it would also encourage Grey Knight Players to all buy the new giant model. For non-Grey Knight players, they'd have to buy the model and a codex anyway, so this way they're buying the book for the same price, but are getting the rules for a whole other faction as well, not just the Imperial Knights.

Knights have been around for what, two decades now? they were in Epic before they got into 40k, and there were 5 options there i believe, not the two (three if you count weapon changes) in the codex/FW.

-Non Codex Adherant Chapters, including GK, SW,BT, BA etc

Just want to point out, Blood Angels ARE a Codex Adherant Chapter.

3 Codices to Rule Them All:

"Us", "Them", and "Those Things"

"Us" is all Imperial factions.
"Them" is all Chaos and Renegade factions.
"Those Things" is all Xenos factions, including mercenary Xeno factions that you read about in fluff but never see on the table because their entire race resides on a single planet the IoM could wipe out in, like, six and a half minutes if, you know, they ever got around to it.

I don't want any of the major books merged at this point. Ba and DA could have been put in the big Marine book before their 5th and 6th Ed books respectively, but weren't, and it is too late for them now.

I want Militarum Tempestus and Codex Inquisition to be merged into one book though. No real reason for separate IG Stormtroopers when they are in the IG book, but making them Inq Stormtroopers would open up some options for them.

Every time one of these threads show up it turns into the same thing. People wanting Space Marines to be rolled into one because they have to many books.
I would put money that if tomorrow they came out with every one of the remaining Codex's and then it was announced that in 3 months a new Space Marine Codex was going to come out there would outrage that Space Marine's were getting all of the love.

I think most all of them should be combined in some way. However, I think some parts should be separated out more.

Most of the army fluff, for example, hasn't changed since 2nd/3rd edition. It doesn't make sense for it to become obsolete and need rewriting every time there is a minor tweak to the game rules. Having separate standalone background (fluff only) books would allow those books to last longer, and be of much better quality, without interfering with the upkeep of rules.

Similarly, the basic units for each army, and their beastery entries, haven't changed much since 3rd edition. These should probably be together in the rulebook so that all players are familiar with them (and could actually play a basic game without needing a codex).

Army specific special characters and special units should probably be in their own book with the latest army lists. These could be combined, OR they could just be made smaller and updated more frequently.

GW could still bring out an army 'catalogue' each year, to highlight new releases (and old fluff). With lots of colour photos and copypasta (which is basically what they have now). Call it what it is, I'm sure some people will still buy it.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
I don't want any of the major books merged at this point. Ba and DA could have been put in the big Marine book before their 5th and 6th Ed books respectively, but weren't, and it is too late for them now.

I want Militarum Tempestus and Codex Inquisition to be merged into one book though. No real reason for separate IG Stormtroopers when they are in the IG book, but making them Inq Stormtroopers would open up some options for them.

I was really disappointed in the Tempestus book. I really would have been way happier with just the option to take stormtroopers as troops in the IG book. It also didn't help that they didn't fix the primary problems with stormtroopers (crappy statline and staying power coupled with absurdly short ranged and S3 guns and still paying out the nose for AP3) and the Tempestus Scions book fluff read like Harry Potter Torture Porn ("yes 'arry, lets go blast your best friend in the 'ead to prove your loyalty to the 'eadmaster!")