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Toys R Us has their own official eBay store. I think it's safe to say they like online sales.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Yes, you have to take the minimum amount. But the single Terminator can be used as a Terminator Captain instead as it is the Sergeant model with Powersword and Stormbolter.

I recently build several of the AOBR starters, and the miniatures are good for conversions, too. I built a Khorne CSM Lord in Terminator armour using one of the AOBR Terminators.

The Ork Boyz can be cut to carry the Loota Deffguns. By combining boxes of Burnaboyz/Lootas with the AOBR Ork bodies you get twice the amount for few money. This can also be done to build Tankbustas (using bits like bombs and RL from the Boyz box) and Flashgitz (using Nobz and Gitz spares).

Most of my Tankbustas came from AOBR boyz. The AOBR Nobz are great, too, they have unique armour.



It will be great to have more Deffkoptas floating around, too.

 agnosto wrote:
..... I know it's hard to imagine on this board but GW is very small potatoes in the grand scheme of things and companies would be less willing to deal with their silliness than if they were Lego or the like.

What we'll see is a smaller number of local stores picking this product up rather than broad distribution which is unnecessarily limiting in my opinion (that and a buck could get you a coke).

Indeed but GW have shown that they are happy to walk away when the big boys want to take a bigger slice of their pie. I can help feeling that GW have created this line with and almost built in obsolescence to it so that they can offer terms more inline with what these entities are used to.

From a collectors/modellers PoV it's old stuff with limited appeal to more experienced gamers
There's little design outlay as the only real new work is cutting a new die using existing masters + old artwork.
Business wise this is about spreading the GW word to all corners of the US where they don't currently reach and flag up the website.

If this sits on the shelves at Mom & Pa's model/arts store, Hicksville, USA for the next few years they've lost nothing as the start up cost would be so minute. If Its at HobbyLandUS (or whatever) and they want it on sale/return or at 40% RRP also not a problem as it's old stock and can be skipped and written off against tax. Something they would be less inclined to do with current stock I would imagine.

This looks like someone's idea of doing for the US what GW stores do in the UK. It just spreading the word out there. The internet is fine (if you are searching for something) but this is just another string in the bow and one that's more likely to hit home with the Geek crowd.

 notprop wrote:

 agnosto wrote:
..... I know it's hard to imagine on this board but GW is very small potatoes in the grand scheme of things and companies would be less willing to deal with their silliness than if they were Lego or the like.

What we'll see is a smaller number of local stores picking this product up rather than broad distribution which is unnecessarily limiting in my opinion (that and a buck could get you a coke).

Indeed but GW have shown that they are happy to walk away when the big boys want to take a bigger slice of their pie. I can help feeling that GW have created this line with and almost built in obsolescence to it so that they can offer terms more inline with what these entities are used to.

From a collectors/modellers PoV it's old stuff with limited appeal to more experienced gamers
There's little design outlay as the only real new work is cutting a new die using existing masters + old artwork.
Business wise this is about spreading the GW word to all corners of the US where they don't currently reach and flag up the website.

If this sits on the shelves at Mom & Pa's model/arts store, Hicksville, USA for the next few years they've lost nothing as the start up cost would be so minute. If Its at HobbyLandUS (or whatever) and they want it on sale/return or at 40% RRP also not a problem as it's old stock and can be skipped and written off against tax. Something they would be less inclined to do with current stock I would imagine.

This looks like someone's idea of doing for the US what GW stores do in the UK. It just spreading the word out there. The internet is fine (if you are searching for something) but this is just another string in the bow and one that's more likely to hit home with the Geek crowd.

Hobby, art, toy stores vastly outnumber game stores and the tiny GW store presence in the US so I'm not sure holding this initiative up to the UK model is putting it in the best light. This is one area where GW consistently fails in the US, they fail to realize that the way they operate business in the US/Canada must be different than how they run things in the UK, they're apples and oranges and what works in one won't necessarily work in another.

What you spelled out is exactly why they should go for broad distribution on as grand a scale as possible. There's no to little danger of cannibalizing too much of their existing sales by extending a broad reach so there's no reason to be so insanely scared of the internet. If Toys R Us suddenly picked this product up, put it on the website and, heaven forbid, had them in a sale or something, GW isn't out any money. They make more money when the product moves units because their retail discount doesn't change. There is literally zero reason to leave money on the table here but it seems that they're unwilling to change their failed "marketing" strategies. If they're not out any money to produce this, they don't have anything to lose by at least trying to make it successful.

I understand that they're building the base up now, but wouldn't it have been better to launch it with more than 5 stores on board? I love these minis, they're what I really started with (after a couple of starts and stops during 4Th) so they have nostalgia value to me. Maybe I'm just sour I won't be able to find this any time soon unless I go to Montana

I just realised that the Ork Trakk kit is 19 years old. Wow...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I just realised that the Ork Trakk kit is 19 years old. Wow...

Need to still pay for those molds.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I just realised that the Ork Trakk kit is 19 years old. Wow...

Makes me feel old.

I have some from Gorkamaorka that I still haven't gotten around to painting yet

I have some Tyranid Attack stuff that isn't painted yet.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I have some Tyranid Attack stuff that isn't painted yet.

Oh yes, the last time they tried something like this, albeit on a smaller scale.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I have some Tyranid Attack stuff that isn't painted yet.

Never herd of that. What is it?

Davor wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I have some Tyranid Attack stuff that isn't painted yet.

Never herd of that. What is it?

Old school board game.

 Nostromodamus wrote:

Davor wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I have some Tyranid Attack stuff that isn't painted yet.

Never herd of that. What is it?

Old school board game.

Wait, I was thinking of something else. What did they call the short-term kits they released with space marines, genestealers, paints, etc?

So, anyone actually see this set in person yet?

There is an unboxing video in this thread on a previous page


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Warhams-77 wrote:
Yes, you have to take the minimum amount. But the single Terminator can be used as a Terminator Captain instead as it is the Sergeant model with Powersword and Stormbolter.

I recently build several of the AOBR starters, and the miniatures are good for conversions, too. I built a Khorne CSM Lord in Terminator armour using one of the AOBR Terminators.

The Ork Boyz can be cut to carry the Loota Deffguns. By combining boxes of Burnaboyz/Lootas with the AOBR Ork bodies you get twice the amount for few money. This can also be done to build Tankbustas (using bits like bombs and RL from the Boyz box) and Flashgitz (using Nobz and Gitz spares).

Most of my Tankbustas came from AOBR boyz. The AOBR Nobz are great, too, they have unique armour.



It will be great to have more Deffkoptas floating around, too.

They look really good, I used these Spellcrow (Kromlech?) Pilot heads on my Deffkoptas for more variety.

Yes, but has anyone actually found it in any store yet?

^I haven't. I called most all the True Value's in my state once more, giving them some time to get inventory in case it was late. But nope. Nothing at all.

Needless to say, I'm very sore about it. I really wanted a box or two of these to get myself back into the swing of the hobby.

Called around, couldn't find it in Western Canada yet.

Anyone know if they are available in Southern California?

I don't think anyone has spotted them anywhere yet.

 adamsouza wrote:
I don't think anyone has spotted them anywhere yet.

Well since it's like dozen stores or less in whole USA...

Has anybody bothered to go to the stores stated as selling them? Going stores out of that list isn't going to be effective likely.

The way this product is being handled is baffling. If their goal is to have it act as a entry point to encourage new hobbyists, they should be selling it in as many places as possible (online included) to make the game more visible. The way they're doing it, the only people who are going to know Vedros exists are people who are already into miniatures games.

I think they are hoping that kids will see the shiny boxes on their nifty display box and nag their parents into buying it.

 adamsouza wrote:
I think they are hoping that kids will see the shiny boxes on their nifty display box and nag their parents into buying it.

Of course that requires display boxes BEING somewhere

Well it can still work but it's going to be slow process. Hopefully they didn't put huge sale numbers as goal for this...GW has history of dumping product lines that didn't exceed sales sufficiently. Mere couple times exceeded is not enough neccessarily. And with this few stores sale numbers won't be that many boxes.

tneva82 wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
I don't think anyone has spotted them anywhere yet.

Well since it's like dozen stores or less in whole USA...

Has anybody bothered to go to the stores stated as selling them? Going stores out of that list isn't going to be effective likely.

According to the ad in the OP, it's supposed to be, allegedly, at True Value stores as well (They did not specify if it were ALL True Values or only specific locations). I called every True Value in the state of Maine, but none had any idea what I was talking about so...they have likely failed to disclose where they have released them to said stores.

Here we were worried that GW was getting something right

I think they should have waited and launched the damned thing once they had a certain number of accounts set up. As it is, this might be forgotten about before it even picks up steam. Very disappointing indeed.

Yea, this is a huge fail.

Id easily buy a set or two as I want more orks.

The fact even FLGS cant have it is insane, or are forced to spend 600 bucks for a display with contents.

I just emailed the person listed as handling distribution in my area. Email bounced right back. Well gak...