highlord tamburlaine wrote:Is it wrong of me to want the Rules Committee to go back over Dungeon Saga?

I like what they did with Kings of War, Deadzone looks like it will follow similarly...

Seems like having them tackle Dungeon Saga (the Adventurer's Companion specifically) would probably cool a lot of jets out there that are unhappy with the way the book turned out.

Mymearan wrote:It seems extremely unwise to rely on the RC in such a great capacity... There's a reason people get a salary for their work, it's because you can hold them accountable and you can always count on them being there. Having community-run play testing is fine but letting them basically re-write your rules seems unprofessional and subject to any number of potential problems. Of course I'm not privy to what goes on and am simply going off what I've read on dakka, so correct me if I'm wrong.

 scarletsquig wrote:
@Psychopomp: That's pretty much happening already, the Deadzone RC wrote the entire Deadzone:Infestation expansion book (with the exception of the background text at the start and accompanying the armies).

4 volunteers collaborating can get a lot more done than one paid person juggling a lot of stuff at once. Simple division of labour, one of us wrote elite army lists, another did the fixed campaign, another did weather rules, I did the exploration phase section.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's all very well blaming Jake (and he certainly has to take some of the Flak),

but you also have to think about how much time he was given to get everything written ?
and how much access to playtesters outside whatever group he plays with (since it's commissioned work he can't just put it out there) ?
and how much other stuff Mantic were asking him to do at the same time?

 NobodyXY wrote:
Sent mantic a ticket Thursday and got a response today. I've moved since the PM so I had to change address.


@Mymearan

RC are capable of making the choice of contributing or not. Exploitation is your opinion on the matter and my opinion is that mantic can't support 4(more?) full-time employees on top of everyone else. I assume there are tangible rewards. You know, beyond getting to help build something you love, a nice talking point on any resume and admiration of your local group

Don't get me wrong if they could be paid that would be great. But how much?

@psycho I think they already get stuff.

Warpath Version 1.0.1 - 14th March 2016

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dwkk5x5ooszx0zu/Warpath%20Beta%2014-03-16.pdf?dl=0

Areas of Focus
1. Force Selection – we will start the playtesting with Force Selection left completely open. We want you to create army lists and play games with “spam” forces in order to break the game. This will allow us to see where restrictions need to be put in place.

2. Missions and Objectives – linked to force selection, there are likely to be some forces that excel at certain secondary objectives. While we want the secondary objectives to always add a slight unbalancing factor, there should not be any that a force can auto-win. While designing your force, review the secondary objectives and see if there are any that could be a problem.

3. Force Specific Objectives and Orders – these are not all filled in yet. We are looking for suggestions on characterful rules to fill these spaces and add a new twist to each faction.

4. General Points Values and Balance – try out different forces, and tell us what works and what doesn’t, what’s too cheap, what’s too expensive. Please note that vehicles in particular have fairly arbitrary points values currently as they are hard to benchmark against infantry. Only playing will give us the answers.

Change Log
-General clarifications and corrections throughout, including a few tweaks to points values (Jotunn and Raptor) – be sure to double check your army lists.
-Flyers are now a variant Vehicle class like Tanks are, rather than having a special rule. No mechanical change, just cleaner from a wording point of view. This prevented the redundancy of them having exceptions to rules that didn't affect them in the first place!

skarsol wrote:
Comments on the KS seem to indicate the coupon code isn't working for a lot of people. I only backed for $1 so I doubt I'll get the rulebooks, so can someone who does check and see if the rules images posted on the update match what's in the PDF? Or did the changes scarletsquig said were made actually show up?

skarsol wrote:
...so can someone who does check and see if the rules images posted on the update match what's in the PDF? Or did the changes scarletsquig said were made actually show up?

skarsol wrote:
Comments on the KS seem to indicate the coupon code isn't working for a lot of people. I only backed for $1 so I doubt I'll get the rulebooks, so can someone who does check and see if the rules images posted on the update match what's in the PDF? Or did the changes scarletsquig said were made actually show up?

Here we have put together two example Strike Teams to help you get started. Set up the Patrol mission as described on page 12 and then use these forces to get a feel for the game.