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 Barzam wrote:
Surprise of surprises, Zak in Mantic's customer service department actually came through. My missing DBX items finally arrived. He sent me an email on the 21st saying they'd been shipped, but I'd heard that line before. It turns out he really did find the items in the warehouse and sent them out to me. I got my Mechanites (in retail packaging, no less), my Medibot, and Eclipse. There was also something that looked vaguely like a forcefield marker or something. It was a bunch of free-floating hexagons. I'm not sure what that piece is or what it's used for, but it'll make a great Nano Screen for my Shasvastii.

Huzzah,

hopefully everybody else is closed out soon too

I should point out, all of my communications with Zak were short and to the point. He never gave me any of the copy-pasted responses like I'd received prior to my communications with him. No "we're looking into," or "it's in the queue" or any of that. I had initially asked for some kind of explanation about why I never received my stuff and why I received that KOW stuff instead. He told me he had no clue and couldn't really check with the people I'd spoken to previously because they had left the company. He then asked what I was missing. I told him, and he came back saying he'd check with their warehouse and get the stuff shipped as soon as he found the items. I received a response a few days later saying he found the items and that they would be shipped asap. I then received a shipping notice not too much longer, which was on the 21st. He responded very quickly to my emails, too. Usually only about a day later, and in some cases within the same day. So, my experience with him at least was very good. Hopefully he'll get you squared away, Bob.

I got in touch with Zak via the support ticket system about two weeks ago now. I'm still waiting for anything for KoW to ship to me but the DZ:I refund was in my account within 24h of opening the ticket (granted that was quite a bit after the first few requests for that refund I sent, but at least this time it was handled quite well).

I'm inclined to believe they're improving substantially, now if only I'd finally get any of my KoW stuff...

 Azazelx wrote:

On a more positive note - how are you enjoying your KoW stuff, Bob?

Do you mean my KoW2 stuff? That's what never arrived. Neither wave 1 nor wave 2. I expect all my orders to have some delay since I tend to pledge for add ons and not the easy sweet spot pledges, but not 3 or 4 months of delay.

If you mean my Kow1 stuff... I'm pretty happy with the orcs and the brocks and the Elohim. The Men at Arms were disappointing, but the weapons and the torsos have been great additions to the bits box. I have gained several elf, dwarf and undead boxes due to local clearance and I like those kits.

As for the game, I actually use the Arcane Legions minis on multibases and the lists you gave me. (They feel like game pieces and I just can't bring myself to multibase 28mm figures.) I tried a couple games with my dad and it didn't help things that I was learning, too. I'll try again when the boy is old enough or if I can convince some of my friends who used to play board games to give it a chance. My wife has precluded any matches between us. I was never in it primarily for the gaming and enjoy the minis and the fluff on their own merits.

http://warpathuniverse.com/

They finally shipping Deadzone?

Not yet, looks like a count down to... something?

 NobodyXY wrote:
Not yet, looks like a count down to... something?

Exham is where Infestation takes place, containment protocols means a Deadzone has been declared there. Hoping it's a Deadzone release/shipping date.

Or maybe an online campaign page?

An online capaign would be an interesting choice. I could get behind that.

Is it a countdown for when I get to download the new Deadzone rulebook?

Maybe a DZ/FF/WP website?
Retail?

@Barzam
The campaign Idea would be neat, but not in 10 days.

@thrax

Send a ticket? Should have something by now.

Countdown to the next Kickstarter...

No, that's probably not what it is. The image directly references Deadzone: infestation. Why would they have another kickstarter that is referencing a previous kickstarter? My guess would be that what this actually is is a unified site for all of their Warpath set games and the countdown is probably for Infestation's retail release.

Matt Gilbert about 1 hour ago

Re shipping: a few orders have started to go but the pre-bagging exercise will continue into next week and then it's all go on shipping. Some items have been late getting to us and they were bits almost everyone had!

I would assume that site has something to do with Deadzone Infestation's retail release.

 Barzam wrote:
No, that's probably not what it is. The image directly references Deadzone: infestation. Why would they have another kickstarter that is referencing a previous kickstarter? My guess would be that what this actually is is a unified site for all of their Warpath set games and the countdown is probably for Infestation's retail release.

I was being sarcastic lol!!!

overtyrant wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
No, that's probably not what it is. The image directly references Deadzone: infestation. Why would they have another kickstarter that is referencing a previous kickstarter? My guess would be that what this actually is is a unified site for all of their Warpath set games and the countdown is probably for Infestation's retail release.

I was being sarcastic lol!!!

Hard to read sarcasm without emoji. Plus with Mantics pace on kickstarters it's not to far fetched.

 DaveC wrote:
http://warpathuniverse.com/

Warpath teaser

Yep, still hate the Warpath lore.

The first three lines are good worldbuilding. A notice written in-character explaining what it means for your colony to be put under quarantine is a cool idea. Then Mantic ruins it by mugging at the camera for another seven lines.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
http://warpathuniverse.com/

Warpath teaser

Yep, still hate the Warpath lore.

The first three lines are good worldbuilding. A notice written in-character explaining what it means for your colony to be put under quarantine is a cool idea. Then Mantic ruins it by mugging at the camera for another seven lines.

I agree but I could see a teenage me getting into that.

Meh, I prefer a bit of satire or humor to unremitting grimness or plain blandness. The Dreadball flavor text has been my favorite Mantic fluff so far, so I would rather see them stick with their strengths rather than risk creating a boring universe that tries to cover all bases while taking itself seriously.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Meh, I prefer a bit of satire or humor to unremitting grimness or plain blandness. The Dreadball flavor text has been my favorite Mantic fluff so far, so I would rather see them stick with their strengths rather than risk creating a boring universe that tries to cover all bases while taking itself seriously.

Dreadball is meant to be the comedic point of view of the universe, Deadzone and Warpath are meant to be the straight bat. Is what it is.

Maybe the Warpath universe is impossible to play straight. Maybe it's like Batman, where Adam West would be the Dreadball version and the 'serious' version will unintentionally end up every bit as campy over time the way the Burton and Nolan/Snyder films have. At least if the corniness is intentional it can be guided and used to strengthen the savory sections. I'd rather have a Paul Verhoeven Warpath universe than a nBSG Warpath, for example.

I think it's actually pretty cool. It's got the cold, dry tone of a bureaucratic notice.

I thought the whole corporate-speak "deceased under central law" through "death redacted" bit was pretty funny, actually. Surely there was some tongue-in-cheek intended there?

As far as blurbs go, it did make me look forward to inventing / playing Deadline infestation scenarios, so it was a win for me.

I take Bob's point about not being able to take the Warpath universe entirely seriously: it's a weird melange deeply informed by popular Games Workshop fantasy archetypes that they refused to transpose into 40K. There's no reason for Mantic's Veer-myn to exist except to address the customer base for Space Skaven that GW were never going to make. Nevertheless, the Veer-myn appeal to me even as they insult my intelligence.

And since former fans now turned professionals / insiders lurk here, can I ask you if the forthcoming Infestation book will finally tell us what the all-new, all-improved origin of the Veer-myn actually is? Will they be like the all-new X-men, back in the day? I think in the past there were vague hints that they were the off-shoot of Corporation genetic experiments who took to infesting the cargo-holds of human space traders, but I believe that was all declared subject to revision by the Infestation campaign. And yet, we are still in the dark as to where the Veer-myn officially came from. If you can't spill the beans, can you let us know if this information is coming or not?

And will the new Veer-myn background make perfect hard sci-fi sense?

(Of course it will. Space ratmen. How could you go wrong?)

The Deadzone books say the GCPS doesn't really have any idea where the Veermyn came from. There has not been communication with them and their motives aren't readily apparent. Most of society treats them as a myth. The only thing known for sure is that their DNA has no ties to Earth, so they're not some sort of mutant rat race.

 Vermonter wrote:

can I ask you if the forthcoming Infestation book will finally tell us what the all-new, all-improved origin of the Veer-myn actually is?

Yes, you can.

Really sucks that everywhere online is out of stock of everything Deadzone. I was finally going to grab some Forgefathers.

That is probably due to the incoming edition transition. Stocking stuff that's potentially about to be replaced with a new version is not a great idea. It sounds like all figures are making the transition, but there's probably going to be new starter sets and whatnot and stores wouldn't want to be stuck with the old boxes.

Narrative forged

Looks pretty damn nice!