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Hello, after reading the wagon spam thread with some interest, I think I might start the long journey towards this list, let me know what you think.

Warboss, Mega Armour, Attack Squiq, Bosspole Cybork Body

5 Meganobz

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers

Big Mek, Kustom Force Field, PK and Bosspole

19 Boyz, inc Nob w/ PK and Bosspole, 2 Big shootas

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers

20 Boyz inc Nob w/ PK and Bosspole, 2 Big shootas

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers

20 Boyz inc Nob w/ PK and Bosspole, 2 Big shootas

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers

Skorcha Buggie

1499

The general plan is to have the mek with the 19 boyz in one wagon sheltering the others, I drive up slowly unloading shooty death and negating enemy small arms fire completley. The buggie stays out of sight behind a wagon and nips out to soften up charge victims when the boyz arrive, jump out and kick some heads in. I figure pretty much any tourney list will struggle to put down four AV14 obscured targets before they hit the line and start crushing tanks under ther spiky deffrollas.

I'm considering dropping the kannons in favour of more big shootas/ another buggie. Anyway, C&C loved, welcomed home and given a good seeing to.

EDIT: nevermind.

lose the big shootas on the wagons, if you're going to be rolling around and using the deffrollas then you can move 6 and fire one gun (Kannon) or move twelve and do nothing. Having that shoota on those wagons is a waste of points where you could add more boyz or swap those shootas for rokkits

I'd take the PK and pole off of the bigmek - he's just a liability in close combat since he's an IC Klaw that can be picked out before he swings, thereby nabbing the KP and knocking out your KFF. The wagons plan on shocking everyturn they can after the boyz disembark, keep the KFF onboard to protect them.

Drop all kannons for a single big shoota to ward off weapon destroyed results and put some armor plates on (helps with death or glory results).

19 boyz can only take 1 big shoota, but you should probably drop the big shootas from the boyz squads anyways as they won't often use them and certainly not at range (wagon has to move under 6" for passengers to fire).

I'd recommend also stikkbomb chuckas for the wagons carrying regular boyz. It's 5 pts a pop and helps keep the klaw wounds maximized on the charge. Picture a 10 man marine squad with a lascannon being charged in cover. No matter what, the marines swing first, big deal. But if you all strike at I1, your klaw swings get wrapped into the same hit allocation step as the choppas. The savvy opponent will just place all the klaw hits on one special weapon guy, and take choppa saves for everyone else.

Fit some kombi-skorchas in there, they are awesome.

I'd go for regular nobz with painboy over MANZ, but I do like the Mega models better, so that's a consideration.

Cheers for the input guys, I took the PK off the Big mek in my calculations and put a nob in the 19 boyz, but forgot to change it before posting.

Putting 2 big shootas in the 19 boyz was just me being a dunce.

I'm not sold on losing all the shooty gubbinz though, I kind of like the option of sitting and shooting assault armies to crap before rolling over them, shooting some more and assaulting. Armour plates are a good idea though. I also like the look of battleagons bristling with guns. I'll definitely think about the stikkbomz though.

I think it's a bit of a wash between MANZ and normal Nobz, but I like big krumpy mega armour boyz, so I chose them.

This build's a LONG way from completion, it was more of a concept, the details will be worked out later depending on how I model stuff, just wanted to gage people's thoughts on the viability of such a list really, I think it'll be fun to play though, and my first wagon is in the mek's now.

I'll work out a second draft later I think.

I found it about as fun to play as a game of chess in which all of my pawns started out as queens. We put our stuff down, then I point at my opponents stuff and he scoops it up for an hour. I pat myself on the back for being so awesome.

The really nice thing is deployment though. You can be deployed and ready to go in under a minute, which is crazy awesome for orks.

yeah,
I would like to play against this army I really would i've not played against orks yet
but I'd only play this list if you accepted that the 20pt deff rolla didn't give the wagon have a 12" range auto hit D6 str10 weapon against tanks. or swapped them for something else...

If you didn't want to do that, even in a friendly game I'd have to be a jerk and pass on the game.

Panic...

Despite the fact that it clearly did in 4th edition and now you have to read more into the rules than are written to say that it doesn't?

If I understand the argument correctly as "Ram is a Special kind of tank shock, not Any kind of tank shock, and therefore ram is a tank shock until it touches a vehicle and then it's a ram"

Yeah, good luck with that. Any argument that can be refuted by reading the relevant rules sections aloud in full is not likely to last long.

There's already a thread discussing deffrollas in YMTC guys, for the purpose of this thread can we just assume they do work against tanks, I'll reasess my army if and when I hear different from an official source. Ta.

yeah,
sorry for derailing your thread, for some reason it jumped out at me like a red flag to a bull. sorry.

But It would be cool to play against/with mech orks. (just not centered around the rolla...) In fact if I was making a ork army I'd do one like this to keep the number of boys I needed to paint down.

Panic.

i am Sorry to say this:

how did you get and/or made those battlewagons? Or just a prediction list?

I'm in the process of building the wagons. One is going to be based on a shortened baneblade, and three are complete scratchbuilds/kit bashes.

Is deffrolla useful for any battlewagons on most of the Orks army lists?

I'm planning for the new orks army, and i don't really sure what should I equip for my kit-bashed Battlewagons?

Deffrollas are a must. Whether they work against tanks or not is a subject of hot debate, but even if they don't, if you don't like the idea of squashing people with a giant metal roller, you shouldn't be playing orks!

I've made another draft, check it:

Warboss, Mega Armour, Attack Squiq, Bosspole Cybork Body

5 Meganobz, 2 Kombi Skorchas

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, Armour Plates

Big Mek, Kustom Force Field,

19 Boyz, inc Nob w/ PK and Bosspole, Big shoota

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Armour Plates

20 Boyz inc Nob w/ PK and Bosspole, 2 Big shootas

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, Armour Plates

20 Boyz inc Nob w/ PK and Bosspole, 2 Big shootas

Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Kannon, Big Shoota, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, Armour Plates

1499

i wanna make battlewagons too, i made my version bash theme 1500 points:





hq

1 Warboss, pk, Attack Squiq, Bosspole, Cybork Body - 115
1 Big Mek, kff - 85


troops

10 nobz, 1xpk, painboy, waagh banner, 2xcybork bodys - 280
(warboss and big mek comes here)
1 Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Big Shoota, Grot Riggers, armour plates, rpj - 135

20 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, pk, bosspole - 160

20 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, pk, bosspole - 160

20 slugga&choppa
(1) nob, pk, bosspole - 160


heavy support

1 Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Big Shoota, Grot Riggers, armour plates, rpj - 135
1 Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Big Shoota, Grot Riggers, armour plates, rpj - 135
1 Battlewagon, Deffrolla, Big Shoota, Grot Riggers, armour plates, rpj - 135

1500