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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 16:30:32
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon (revised)
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Hello folks, I'm new here. Hope you don't mind me starting off with a custom model I did using a Space marine bike trio set and other plastic scraps and some scratch built stuff.
A mounted lascannon on a bike...ridiculous? Probably? lol.
What do you think the point cost would be?
thanks
Rob
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/09/20 17:23:02
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 16:48:00
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
VA, USA
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Interesting. Looks like counter weighing that thing would be problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 17:04:12
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Interesting. Looks like counter weighing that thing would be problem.
Do you mean model-wise or in the make-believe battle world?
As far as the model goes, it's perfectly balanced, the metal rider helps. It sometimes tips when placed facing up hill.
thanks for the response!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 17:08:09
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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I'd hazard a guess he means in the make believe world where this would make battle.
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There is a word for a wargamer with an empty paint bench.
Dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 17:08:32
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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Looks good btw!
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There is a word for a wargamer with an empty paint bench.
Dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 17:08:38
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Been Around the Block
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If you paint it up rust colored it would look rather Mad Maxian.
I'm not sure what I think of the 4 bolters up front, but if I were to point it, I'd start out at an Attack bike, of 40 points, then add the standard lascannon price, 35. so 75 pts.
I do think that may be cheap for a 12 inch mobile las cannon with 2 wounds though.
Would it be a vehicle or a bike, that makes a difference, if it's essentially the Marine version of a War buggie, then yeah 75 pts for a 10 10 10 lascannon is about right, if it's a bike I'd bump it up to 85 or 90 pts.
-Scott
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 17:26:01
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Very nice, make another 2 for a squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 18:27:33
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Been Around the Block
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Just a innocent observation..... the thing between the gunners legs? please tell me it's a control stick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 18:28:19
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Been Around the Block
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oh wait it's just the camera angle wheww close one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 18:36:40
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Very nice, make another 2 for a squad
LOL. I would have to buy another Battle MaCragge set, as a lot of those pieces used to build the rotating turret were the extras from that set.. Although I guess they could be slightly different.
thanks for the comments! Will be posting the painted version tomorrow.
Thanks for the help on the points. I would say it's a bike still, as I'd like it to still be considered a fast vehicle.
Rob
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 18:38:21
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Just a innocent observation..... the thing between the gunners legs? please tell me it's a control stick.
Ha ha, yeah. I know, I saw that after. I turned it sideways and was like, hmmmm.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 18:41:20
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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if you had put a multi melta or a heavy bolter that would have been a great "counts as" attack bike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 19:13:36
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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very cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 19:39:28
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
VA, USA
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LOL, yeah I meant in "real" life and model wise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/16 22:07:24
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Making Stuff
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It's an interesting idea, but looks awfully unweildy as is. The gunner's platform is too high and too far back behind the rear axle. Shifting the axle back a good half inch or so would help.
And I think the lascannon would look a lot better (and a little less tacked on) if you dropped it down to sit directly on the pivot.
Clever use of bits for the pivot, though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/17 00:19:46
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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take the prise of a atack bike whit multi melta +10 point for the extra bolters
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sorry for my spelling but I em dislextic
ultramar for the win
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/17 04:26:10
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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It's an interesting idea, but looks awfully unweildy as is. The gunner's platform is too high and too far back behind the rear axle. Shifting the axle back a good half inch or so would help.
And I think the lascannon would look a lot better (and a little less tacked on) if you dropped it down to sit directly on the pivot.
yeah, I'm aware that's it's a bit ridiculous in it's conception, but it's my first custom build and I just wanted to do something wacky. I actually raised it that high because I didn't want the conceivable possibility of the gunner shooting the drivers head off. Plus I liked the idea of a high mount for long distance shots that will ignore via line-of-site most barricades and terrain.
Well, anyway, thanks for the suggestions, you are right about the axle but I've painted it already and it's time to move on to the next thing!
here are the painted pics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/17 04:31:21
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Wrack Sufferer
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Wow, that looks really good. Give yourself a pat on the back. The paint really brings it together very nicely for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/18 02:49:16
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Wow, that looks really good. Give yourself a pat on the back. The paint really brings it together very nicely for me.
Hey, thanks alot man!
To wrap this up, I was thinking of a point value of 85 points for the bike (thanks to Kyvik).
Here's the breakdown:
Bike - 50 pts (based on attack bike because it has two riders)
Plasma gun (biker) - 10 pts
Lascannon - 25 pts (sponson lascannon price)
The only thing left is to value out the extra twin-linked bolters, seeing how it's a given on a standard bike the codex doesn't list the value for them.
Anybody know what the value would be?
thanks everyone!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/18 12:25:19
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Deadshot Weapon Moderati
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looks really good, I find it amusing though that despite the quad bolters and lascannon the driver still felt the need to bring along his plasma!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/18 12:33:40
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
Mayhem Comics in Des Moines, Iowa
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Just be glad lascannons probably do not have recoil. The paint job is really spectacular, but the whole thing just looks terribly balanced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/18 14:52:26
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Bane Knight
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mm, I must say the bike looks more orky to me... Does look like a nice conversion though and the paintjob is also very nice...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/18 14:56:09
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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robrov21 wrote:Wow, that looks really good. Give yourself a pat on the back. The paint really brings it together very nicely for me.
Hey, thanks alot man!
To wrap this up, I was thinking of a point value of 85 points for the bike (thanks to Kyvik).
Here's the breakdown:
Bike - 50 pts (based on attack bike because it has two riders)
Plasma gun (biker) - 10 pts
Lascannon - 25 pts (sponson lascannon price)
The only thing left is to value out the extra twin-linked bolters, seeing how it's a given on a standard bike the codex doesn't list the value for them.
Anybody know what the value would be?
thanks everyone!
Considering the bike is relentless and will be allowed to fire everything, I'd say 10 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/18 15:14:59
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Considering the bike is relentless and will be allowed to fire everything, I'd say 10 points.
THanks alot, I really appreciate it. So 95 points it is. Phew..kinda expensive eh? Have to field it at least once, see if it's worth it. lol
As for the unbalanced issue. I agree with that assessment and I am ready to face the problem. Gee..give me a minute...
So, I have done a quick photoshop manipulation to illustrate my option for lowering it as was suggested and bringing the gunner forward a bit.
let me know what you guys think!
thanks for all your help
Rob
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/19 02:56:19
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon
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Morally-Flexible Malleus Hearing Whispers
Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.
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nice job with the painting, dude.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/20 17:20:33
Subject: Re:Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon (remodeled)
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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hey guys,
after some helpful critiques I made some major changes to this custom. I lowered the lascannon and the gunner. I touched up the paint a little also.
Just wanted to post the results!
thanks again for all yer help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/20 22:05:53
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon (revised)
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Much better!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/20 23:47:35
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon (revised)
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Been Around the Block
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Very well done. Much better look with the lowered turret and gunner.
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We are the creators we move our hands and a army rises from the dust, we move our brushes and they come to life, i roll my dice and the rest is fate.Link |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/21 10:25:00
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon (revised)
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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See now that looks waaay more like a marine bike.
I think this design is great, and with the extra details, cables and such, this is looking good.
Nice weathering also.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/21 11:55:51
Subject: Space marine four wheeler with mounted Lascannon (revised)
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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I'm loving this. Great conversion, particularly after lowering the gun platform. Just one suggestion though, if I may.
It might further refine the look if you were to lower the cannon itself, bringing it more into line with the targeting display, there-by lowering the vehicle's profile a little more.
Just an idea.
I took the liberty of photoshopping the idea, i hope you don't mind.
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