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2010/11/18 18:15:10
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update More Wip Antal Adalais or Napoleonic IG Ideas
@ Scrazza i think i have 40k research OCD lol i was just on the Gw website and i thought about your blog, have you ever considered doing a custom guants ghosts
i think your style would suit these characters as well, and i would love to see a custom Guant!
@ Hangfire Hi matey , hope you still dont need to hide your hobby! although something ellicit only makes it more desirable right so your working hard heh well glad to see you have time to pop in moddled some Rough riders today , just in blue tack , trying to get that 40k look again,
will post a pic later ! never got chance to work on Antal today Hope you get back to your blog , i need more painting tips fella, have pu considered what your gonna do when you are happy with your skills,? planning a army or sqaud with some fluff?
@ vik mmmm Comics , i started reading Nemesis reaceantly , nice art work , average story, although i did like the walking dead for a while and Y the last man standing!
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2010/11/18 18:38:41
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update More Wip Antal Adalais or Napoleonic IG Ideas
Hey guys did a liitle work today!
Put pen to paper and made an army list for the praxian guard , so i dont just continue to collect . Must have an end in sight
also took some wip pics of the rough riders, when i finish Antal i am gonna concentrate on the comic for a while , i think this blog needs some serious fluff
Antal Adalais's Personal Body Guard The Nobilite Copiae.
With Elements From The
Praxian Planetery Deffence Force
Army List
Antal Adalais Commander
General Mathias Von Dom
Advisors plus nobles
Proctor Panurge
Ex offiocio Arnette plus Hugo and Viktor
Medic Vostroyan plus medic orderlies
Primaris Psyker custom
Muscians Standad bearers and Cherubin
Commisars
Artillery Luetnent Dance
Thudd gun?
On Rails Cannon
Air support Captain Kassen Madron
?
old School style jetbikes or hover vehicle
Tank Platoon
Scratch built Custom style Malcador /Valdor ww1
Colonel Than Marinka Infantry Votroyan
Orderlies , old Imperial army style
Infantry ww1/ww2/napoleonic 40k mashup
Weapon teams
Mortar sqaud
Flame teams
Heavy stubber?
Autocannon
Lascannon ?
Sniper?
Praxus Nobbilite close combat teams
2 handed Chainsaws?
Praxus Nobilite
Rough riders
Gunners
Lancers
Power swords
Vulgus Penal battalion
Buildings Russian 60's Hyperboloid pylon with Parabolic radar command section , 40's Mainot Line Bunkers
medical support area tents and what nots
back to monotone for this greyscale update , but a colourfull antal next Btw the twins LJ and RJ made all the foot infantry in these scenes, and also a couple of the hores ones and it was BJ my eldest who had the idea of the injured soldier being dragged by the captain and if anyone needs on sprue pics of the perry cav just let me know i took some earlier , these are Dragoon comand sprue ,Hussar command sprue and French heavy Cav boxset.
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Yay ,Thanks scrazza thanks Weety!
now that was a fun little project , I thought i would post some my research pics for the Hyperboloid command structure for the back line, i will eventually make, and the fantastic maginot line bunkers for the front line!
Hyperboloid Water tower in Ciechanów, Poland. Designed by Jerzy Michał Bogusławski; built in 1972. The support structure is an hyperboloid lattice and the water reservoir is a toroid.
The Hyperboloid water tower - the world's first steel lattice shell structure by the great Russian engineer and scientist Vladimir Shukhov (1853-1939) in 1896. The All-Russia industrial and art exhibition 1896 in Nizhny Novgorod.
"eat chainsaw you vile monster..."
what brave men and fellow horses must you guardsmen be to charge into the midst of such ravaging beasts. and your captain is the bravest of them all. despite his very near ending he risks his few living seconds to rescue his comrade in arms...if he survives he is a true war hero.
when i see such tragic battles it reminds me of the withdraw at hoth in the second(true) starwars movie... its always a pain to behold to see soldiers that have to do a strategic withdrawl...
this was a truly epic sloughterhouse warpit battle. the poses of the fleeing soldier and the shooting hussar are very good and capture the movement really good.
for your list, the only comment i can make, looks like a heck of work to do...i haven´t got the foogiest of ideas what to do and where to begin with such a task...
your research concerning russian terrain structure is very good. i like the webbbing of steel. if you want to do that, you got my respect for that is a very tideous task ahead...
whats the tank in one of the latter pictures?
as for your air support, any ideas what you will be making? will you scatchbuilt something profane as a valyrie or do you come up with something more unique? what about something hoovering?
or will you be building also a flying fortress?hmm there should be far more fortresses in the sky for my liking^^
have you found a modernday material for building your bunkerline? i´m thinking about it now, but nothing springs to mind...perhaps later...
cool work and stuff colors. we like your film noir battles. reminds me of that old kirk douglas movie: Paths of Glory
again if i wouldn´t be your friend already i´d be your fan by now again^^
Wow how did i miss that movie , surely gonna get hold of that, thanks mate. and starwars the empire strikes back is also a favourite of mine , very much inspired by ww2 , glad you mentioned the fleeing soldier , because i wasnt sure if , that came accross. "Run-a-way"! The movement is captured with shaky camera work ,and great detailed models . happy accident! i guess , if i wasnt for your original comment on the catachans clash, i would never have used this technique again. so even if i get a better camera in future , the diorama scenes will probably remain with this technique now! but paint is in my soul now so , technicolour is not far away.
The russian erchetecture is from my Arclight research , i may as well , reuse what i can , in the present as that might never be finished!
the tank i dont know what either are i think the one with men on is an american ww2 sherman. the other i havent a clue! found on the maginot line somehwere
as for the structures just wavy ideas floating around for now , not sure how or when they will be impemented.
i notice you reply comments on every detail of my uploads , it must take you as long to comment as it does me to upload. lol not sure about flying stuff yet i like the thought of valkries etc.. but will probably , end up with old school jet bikes
regards mate
ha there is little possability to go anywhere wrong with jetbikes as the oooooze coolness.! totaly go for that. we have seen some good takes on that thiong here( iknow you did too^^)
as for ancsereing to all posts of yours, well i see it that way: i want to hoor almost every thing you do by showing that someone sees it and recognize(hpoe i do that...) it. if soething doesnt get recognized then for my part it would be like telling a joke and nobodys laughing...sad story then...
i have to say my mind is somewhat alike a sponge...it sucks much up but it is still pretty much made out of holes...
so did you already mentioned Arclight ? and i lost that or ...what? i´m confused^^
the very good thing of that movie is the beginning. the cuts are very future tech for that time it loks as if shot in one go...and the mood is just classy. later it gets a bit boring for my taste as it gets a bbit courtyard romantic...not my style then. and impiere strikes back IS by far my dearest movie. as you might have percieved Viktor von Doom, my nom du guerre here is a very baddy character. he and the hated (for most people) Darth Vader are some great idols of mine. well by now i expect the average man to get a light uneaven feeling about me^^. but i see there characters differently. the both wanted to create an utopia. they both wanted a very special community that they ruled to keep out the dumb descissiond of the mere mortals. with them we would be living in peace and harmony, for their given value of harmony they wnat to spread out. free will is for them something like a toddler thats using a fork to see what happens when you put it in a socket...well the darth aveder thinks...what an infidel and smacks him some and then he bannes sockets and forks, for he really cares for his next in kin... i think they both are what you get when you see to much bad things happen and too much bad politician acting upon stupid thoughts...
i personaly think one day despotism is the way to go. democracy will eventually put us down for good if something doesnt happen...
phew, what a mental rant of me...^^
man you really remind me of a close friend who also reminds me of magneto from the x men . he also is a despotic phillosopher ,who wouldn't think twice about abolishing the vote if there was such thing as a honourable polotician. but as we both know there are only humans , is'nt this why we like stories , because they remind us of that possibility ,where honour and morality are infallible ,this is what draws us like a moth to the flame. because if we can imagine it then it is possible?
that remind me of two things: john lennon and the fact that i´m getting really forgettful as i´m also a big fan of magnus lensher aka magneto^^. he also has a very familiar bloodline to mine so he is more of my kind of dark hero than the other two. as for lennon: you can probably guess what song i´m thinking of right now...^^
Thanks Kenshin620 Yeah , was thinking of them as Praxian Nobles , with there own household colours , all individual , like chivalric knights, brought together to form a noble unit . but these are just ideas so i could see what looks best, i will prob make three sets of rough riders ,lascarbinier ,grenade lancer, and a mixed one .
Yeah but I am scared of losing army cohesion as well especiallly after using units form so many different styles in the army, I think i will have to be very carefull with my colour schemes so as to keep the whole group looking like a unified army. I am very excited though because i have purchased a few interesting oop minis " ouch" to add to the Praxian Guard. I have decided to try and make a loose diorama based on this scene not an exact copy , but its style and feeling, to encourage me to paint the army up quickly. and to have a good reason for having them all if i dont really game!
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Titan lol your kidding right ? I cant even finish the 3 projects i am working on!
so update with some fluff for the manufactorum and Praxus comic
Origins of Saint Marrete
Daughters of the Emperor
By Scholar Rosiwe
The exact details of the origins of Ministorum organisation, daughters of the Emperor are well documented in the scholarum libraries of the Eclisiarchy. But these versions omit Important details of the Venerable saint Marrete. Deemed Heretical by Inquisitor Lock's Ministorum purge. As a young man I was one of the Administratum's offico's responsible for the destruction of many books and texts thought inappropriate for the Ministorum. Petty scrivener level II I was superior to many of my companions in that my role required binocular vision and thus I was spared the normal blinding process. Although warned implicitly that any reading of the texts was sorely forbidden. In no hurry to jeopardise my position, I dutifully operated my role in the denouncement of said texts, with not a second thought for the heretical contents. Until an accident with the pyrocastor forced several of us attendants to take shelter beneath a large bookshelf. It was whilst in this rather uncomfortable position my eyes did wonder upwards towards a large tome that lay open , and its beautiful scrivenings did my eyes attention seek. Knowing the punishment for such an act and not wanting to be seen by my compatriots , I swiftly returned my gaze to the floor, but surely enough like a moth to flame my eyes did seek out its illuminated text. Which told of a girl with the most magnificent pure golden hair, born into servitude upon a hive world Phalanx, struggling her whole life in the service of others she worked many years to buy back her genetic freedom, An insatiable thirst for piety had grown with her on the hive world ,and now older, her faith in the Emperor was as solid as plascrete. Her new found freedom allowed for one thought a holy pilgrimage. Although Holy Terra was out of the question for one with such poor funds, Another reliquary sprang to mind , The tomb of Saint Bernadette. A pilgrimage of only II clusters. With this in mind Marrete ,(the girl now allowed a name because she was no longer in servitude) did every thing she could to raise the creds needed to get off Phalanx. Anyone who has had the misfortune to have been to Phalanx will know, that a pretty girl only has one option to raise creds in the lower habs. Bruised and used, the dishevelled Marrete now had enough creds for a ticket off world. Her transaction complete, Marrete lay in bliss as the refitted launcher , made its jauntily way towards its destination. Hungry and tired Marrete sold the last of her belongings for a little food and water, her only possessions being a small tardy old dress, ripped and stained with her trials. Other mid and high level hab dwellers were also on board making the same pilgrimage. Offended that a low hab dweller would be making the journey, they unashamedly denounced Marrette's unsightly appearance. Happy in her contentment Marrete ignored their vindications and thought only of her opportunity to Basque in the reflected glory of the Emperor through the beneficent reliquary of Saint Bernadette. But her arrival at the entrance of Tomb was met with no less consternation , For the ministorial sister at the gates looked upon the dishevelled and lowly mess that was Marrete, and refused her admittance. Chastising her for her semi nakedness and whore like attire. Marrete emaciated and drawn refused to move. Insisting she had just as much right as anyone to enter. Embarrassed and angry at her indolence , she ordered the reliquary guards to remove her. Knowing the consequences awaiting the girl for such ignoble actions at a consecrated site, a travelling missionary took pity on the wretched Marrete and offered up a long cape from his vestment gowns to protect her modesty. Now covered from neck to to barefoot , Marrete approached the gates a second time. Infuriated at this disobedience , the sister immediately levied a toll for entrance. Knowing full well Marrete had nothing left to give having used up all her creds on the journey. Thankful for her own deviations, the sister rested smugly in her own contentment.
Throwing off the missionaries vestments and what was left of her ragged clothes. Marrete picked up the sharpest rock she could find and began hacking off her beautiful long hair. Her head ruined and her fingers sore , she handed the bloodied scalp to the sister, Saying
“I was born naked , now I stand naked in front of you,
I am but used flesh and tired bone
I am naught and not worthy
I have nothing to give but myself
But the Emperors love is bountiful and I am his daughter,
I offer all that I am to him , in the knowledge that if he requires more , it your duty as one of his humble servants to take it.
She promptly fell upon her knees in front of the sister and said
“ Do you still require more of me sister?”
The sister suddenly embarrassed by her own prideful actions , immediately cast off her own vestments and cut her hair. As did many of the pilgrims.
News of the event spread throughout the Ecclisiarchy and many similar acts followed at different pilgrimage sites for many years. Until one former missionary , now inspired deacon announced a new sect be formed named “The Daughters of the Emperor” a divisional department that created
robes for the Ministorums many Deacons, cardinals and pontificates. From the hair given by pilgrims at sanctified shrines throughout the Imperium. So the hierarchy would always be reminded of this simple selfless act of humility.
( In the footnotes of the page , an extra article had been added at a later date.)
A small and unknown fact to many. When a Commissar Inured learned of this story from a pontifice mundi he formed an idea to supply his men with purity seals made of the highest quality human hair . So his fighting men were reminded of humanity when awarded one of these rare purity seals. The Daughter of the Emperor shrines are now on Thousands of Imperial worlds and the Venerable saint Marrete is worshipped as a icon of humility on just as many .
Appended Scholar Rosiwe was found guilty of treason and heresy and seminally executed by Inquisitor Ravnus lock , These writings were found hidden in his vestments. And re intered into the Ministorum libraries. By servo Skull MMMXXVII
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a really sad story. you have to undestand what the beliefs of marette had did to her. she sold her body to the cheapest uses and let her ego be bruised and tortured only to achieve something that is so important to her yet so insignificant to the one beeing that she wanted to honor with said actions (the pilgrimage i mean). all this in the name of the shrivveld shell of a each-day-massmurder... this is sad and sick in one tight bundle. really why do we all play with SM and IGs and the likes...? god the spirit beneath all that is hurting ...
don´t get me wrong i really liked that story, your writing is very entertaining. the scene with Scholar Rosiwe, trying to avert his eyes...pictures flashed before my eyes.
what i still don´t understand is why was the story around marette deemed heretic? i wouuld gather that she did holy and very supporting deeds to the emperor? will this be shown in further parts of your historical surroundings of the manufactorium?
again thank you for this exeptionally storytelling.
vik
Wow thanks guys n gals did'nt expect that many replies for fluff ! , he, he, he .
@ azekio Wow thank you , what a compliment, but i must be weary of my own prideful actions, lest I feel the inquisitorial wrath! I agree with you about the story telling opportunities,
this has always been the biggest draw for me, reading them and inventing your own , well that and lascannons!
@Hangfire , Again thanks mate, it was you and Viks comments about continuing the comic and writing some background deatails , that inspired me to post it!
and sorry for any loss in clarity , i really didnt check it well enough before posting. only the texts were deemed heretical not the organistaion as a whole, well at least i didnt think , but hey you never know with the inquisition right? Hope this clears up any confusion.
"Devout and puritanical, Inquisitor Lock was opposed to any deviations in the Ministorum.
His acquaintance with Cardinal Ror undoubtedly buttressing an already formidable faith. It was Cardinal Ror who suggested his tyrannical purge of Ecclesiastical writings. A chance to rewrite and amend tawdry or corporal accounts of Saints. And Re-embellish them with a virtuous and chaste enlightenment. The unchaste Saint Marrete , becoming a vestal bride of the Emperor. Who forsake all attempts at her modesty despite her low and squalid upbringing. Saving her virtue for the Emperor alone."
Only the texts that contained prurient and licentious meterial was ordained heretical in his first purge, In later purges all manner of behaviour consider impure , was removed from the texts.
@ Sageheart , cheers mate , this is just the warm up , get ready for the main course
@ Vik , You soul is a rare one mate. You understand the deepest tragedy of it all.
We play with them because , we can imitate reality , and bend it to our will , we could play with my little ponies and care bears, but we would still put a hunter, or wolf in the mix!
40k is a mirror to our souls. the miniatures are only a dark reflection , of what we already know to be true.....WITH LASCANNONS hope the extra bit clears up why she was deemed heretical!
@ weety , arent all Christmas stories grimdark! well the good ones at least!
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all knots untied in my brain^^, silly me, not realizing something like prostitution might be something the old shriveld one wasn´t into...murder any time of the day but mingling...no sir we´re british...
sure thing it had to be purged...also you made it very clear that the inquisition reminds me a lot of orwells big brother...now i see a direct line...
man your absolutly crippeld by too many talents...that way you have to do so much work in so many genres...write more, we can chew a whole lot more^^ and definatly need to^^
and i jsut love your picture you draw me with the cearbear hunter...thats priceless!!!an oh so true...
when my sis and i were kids we used to play with her dollyhouse. my redcoats of playmobil (yeah this early i had victorian redcoats^^) protected he puppet family in it from pirates...
cheers mate. you know what to do: blow our minds...
Ahhhhhhhh I see, I always have questions after reading any story or watching a film...you know those ones where the ending is left to the viewer imagination, grrrrr, I don't have one.
Good story, I like it, so the practice of turning hair into seals continues but the true history gets re-written, love it.
BTW, did you have genestealers/nids particularly in mind as the praxian guard's enemy or did you just grab whatever was closest to hand?
whatever is at hand , i like the thought using the blog to display all the minis in the house. Like a repository blog where i can look back over from time to time and see the evolution of paintings and conversions. But because the Praxian guard is less 40k than most things i think it needs very 40k elements to make it work. and nothing is more sci fi than nids immeadiately i think well they look like napoleonics but , fighting nids , nah must be Praxian Guard. I have had a bit of burnout at the moment , just getting my mojo back , and will continue work on the comic. The diorama can wait , as can the manufactorum, although i really want to get the Praxian Guard painted up as well! Thanks Hangfire and Vik glad you like the fluff.
I have some more teaser fluf to publish about characters and history , but i think i would be better served finishing the fisr chapter of the comic first , so you have a fuller picture.
cheers
Neil101
so your working hard heh 
well glad to see you have time to pop in 
moddled some Rough riders today , just in blue tack , trying to get that 
