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2010/11/14 20:44:56
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update On Rails Artillery Gun Finished
mmmmmm cyberised choclate wafer i wonder if orks can eat that anyway the flamer looks awesome though i would cover the flame in gloss varnish to give it a shiney finish
2010/11/14 20:55:24
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update On Rails Artillery Gun Finished
@ Moonshine Cyberised chocolate wafer,.....mmmmm that gives me an idea...
@Manoknok a curse as well as a blessing! the cotton wool balls are slighty spray painted back and red , and just wrapped around a brabecue scewerer or florist wire, and pulled out to resemble the smoke , its actually inserted into the barrel to steady it.
so i know i have being a bit deppressive and a little down receantly in my blog , so i decided no more of that , time for some good old fashioned humour! you have been warned!
So i was gonna take a day off today , and rest after all that hard arty work, but it seems my mind had other ideas. I have wanted to show some of my boys work for a while , but havent got around to it yet! so i decided to show off some of there painting skills , on some orks i had converted a while back but are still wip, @ Monkeytroll and @ Vik , your to blame for this i hope your happy now, with your crazy cyborks!! and Airyships i also had a few orky buildings wip, maybe this will give me incentive to finish em off! and some rare archeotch minis found last month in my dillapidated old shed.
so without further ado, i present the first instalment of the crazy orky monkeytroll inspired world of....
Edit In Respect of Monkeytrolls fantastic cyberork blog. Upzag His Mek was accidently mistaken for Grimsnik the Doc oops please read Upzag as Grimsnik
The Grimdark Cookie Chronicles
In the aftermath of the Praxian Cookie event. Known to all Praxus as the The Grimdark Cookie Chronicles, a black mark in Praxus history. A Memorial was built in the smouldering remains of the Inquisitorial Tower. But unbeknownst to the imperial denizens a shadowy cult had emerged beneath the hallowed ground. A long dormant Green skinned clan of the MonkeyTroll Grimsnik Variety. With the smell of burning Grimdark cookies wafting their flared nostrils, the sleepy headed Bashed Upzag a distant cousin to the renowned Mad Doc GRIMSNIK Roused gently, rubbing his ancient bionic eyes.
Bashed “ Fee fi fo fum I smell grimadark cookies ,...YUM!” , “Grotsnick! wake da boys we be freebootin tonight!”
A gangly gretchin grot with a wicked grin, wimpered into view,
Grotsnick “Yes boss” he snivelled.
Bashed “ and dont forget to wake Einstein! , e mite be oosful
Grotsnick“ but boss, he might zap me wiv is weird brainz”
Tuff!
Basheds gang gathered round da boss .
Bashed “Rite lads, you know da drill , dem stinking oomies bin cucking grimdark Cuckees
again, and we ar gonna grab em , befor , dem dirty Praxians get em all,
Amy Orkhouse “ But boss dem oomies ar pretty tuff! And dares only a few of us!”
Emo..rk “ yeh boss dey nearly cut mi hair last time, “
Chopper, Cum ere an I will chop ye air for ya!, bwahhhhh
Emo..rk “ dont you dare touch me you brute! Do you know how long I spent getting this flick
to fall over my left eye so I can barely see , yet look , decidedly moody and unapproachable!”
Bashed “Never mind all dat you big babies! We got Einstein!!”
A hushed murmur ran through the standing Orks, as wizened old weird boy Einstein hobbled into view!
Einstein “ I new dis day wud cum fellow dakkites, time for us to join back wiv da great waaagh! Our rudely enforced cryo sleep is broken, we shall reclaim what’s ours , and rejoin our long forgotten kindred. We shall journey far and wide across tables and chairs , gardens and sofas, maybe even Internet forums, we shall rejoin our brethren in our inimitable right for Cybork embelishments! From Our beloved and reverent MAD DOC GRIMSNIK!!!”
Orks” DAKKA DAKKKA DAKKKKA!
Bashed “ Listen up boys, our journey wont be easy, dares lots of oomies updare and only a few of us, dare will be casualties, we wont all make it! But we have no choice , its clear now, we must rejoin our bruvvers, in da MonkeyTroll System. Yes they left without us , Yes they are very far away , but think on this . The sacrifice of a few will be worth the Mighty GORKA MEKKA'S REWARD ! Imagine , cybork eyes like Mine! You could all see what I see ..( in actuality Bashed could only see a vague outline of his boys , the cybork eye operation peformed by GRIMSNIK ,went terribly wrong , only managing to save blurry partial eyesight,
hardly the x ray specs with thermo optics and night vision he had promised! But he was hardly gonna let dem idiots know better)
You could see all dem fings if you work ard enuff”
“I want a rokkit booster”
“I wanna Electro Chopper.”
“I want da longest..”
Yu can all av what yer want if we get off dis stinking planet.
But first we need resources, right! And I dont know about you boys but that sleep has made me VERY VERY UNGRY!
“TIME TO TAKE BACK WOTS OURS ITS GRIMDARK COOKIE TIME!”
Dear sir neil, if i could humbly bow lower for just one bit i would do so, but i am bowing so low to show you my undivided loyality as i can already...
you sir have won the day. i hope that we haven´t seen the last of this bunch of green hides. nice take on the names, amy orchouse...well something was bound to get draged ip from the fungus with millions of orcs roaming the galaxy. very good comic. i hope you had as much fun doing it as i had while reading and watching... and then bringing one of my favorite chars of SW into the mix! is there no limit to your imagination? i certainly hope not!
and i really like this short version of some newsflash you made with the cookie lid in the middle, reminded me a bit of the oldschool batman movies^^.
really you made me smile like a kid, thank you sir!
and the grotsniks, munch munch^^
why is it that whenever you make something new you wet my appetite for something new as well? I have to compose myself^^...
on more serious note, i hope that you haven´t had some praxean timeline consequences for your fluff with me bombing your tower? i thought since my airship might come from a paralel dimension, this doesn´t have to affect the praxean timeline of your comic, non?
the only one suggestion i have is:
dont sleep so long man, we all need more of that stuff, work more for us^^. no only joking, rthe last we want is surly you having slept over your minis and getting a burnout from that...
and again: even if i repeat myself a million times, that was some awsome story you told us. definatly something to reread from time to time.
@ Monkeytroll edit i did it again didnt i! , dem stinking runts got da better of us dat time ! grotsnik , i knew i would fluff it! ;-) oh well , the cryo sleep must have addled his poor tiny brain... edited what i can but will have upload all again in correct order to preserve continuity, can it wait oh mighty Gorkka Mekka?
@Vik he he he ,i did , i was like a kid in a cookie shop!
not to worry about time lines thats what warp storms are for!
de nah nah nah nah nah nahnnah COOKIEEE! (like batman but cookie)
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LOL. Chewbakkas pink wafer attack and those space grusade grots eating the biscuit were my favourite parts. Made me titter. I hope you ate all those biscuits afterwards - with tea. mmmmmmmm tea and biscuits
Hi guys made me laugh too i think an IP has being born!
Dem cheeky buggers will come out when i get too gloomy
just a tiny update , sculpted some ww2 german style helmets on some greatcoats and short coats, to give the Praxian guard a more modern feel , not sure if i should do it on all of them yet or maybe add some short caps russian revolution style... pics are real dark!
if you did that alone with a strip of greenstuff, there is no stopping... sky is the limit. no seriuosly the helemts look like the real thing. as to how you always pull something off like that i cant understand. the little time i know you and your art there seems to be a total explosion of talent. you´re trying out new things almost every day and nothing you do is crap? thats some awsome outcome...darn i have to try sculpting as well...i think my heros will need some googles at least...also i have to get shirtsleeves of catachans to look like real mans uniforms...
Thanks guys iam flattered , but the lighting is very poor, and i chose the best one to photgraph! ;-) they are also a little too big in reality, and while some look good from the side some look good from the front, only one looks correct at both front and back! lol wi;; post a pic when painted, cheers for the support!
Mini update , splashed some paint on Antal today, only managed to get a few colours on ,but i like his style, i even trimmed the mold lines after i primed him! thats how much i respect viks Critiques
gone for the french style of navy blue for him. cant wait to get a wash on! Dirtyboy
so finaly into the finer parts of paintcity! and geuss what you´ve made your own warm welcome sign. the antal looks great. the white is very crisp. i´ve tried it, and although my white in htat time was a bit on the rotten side it was creepier. your white looks like fresh brushed teeth^^. really fetching red to go with. cant say much about the blue as my monitor will only tell me its still black. thats natrual ligh for you, cant always win with it. its unpredictable. if you´d turn him a bit i might go so far as to say how godlooking he is, facewise.
with what washes will you be making im pop? i would use hmmmm... processing....devlan mud maybe? or you might be so bold and use a blue wash? diluted to the merest fraction? for the white?after that i would corrct some splashes that happen by when it would be done by me... i am careless when its about washes mostly...
well its the third time during this post i had to rescroll upwards to admire the white. thats definatly yopur color. how many goes did you with the white? must have been planty to get it so clean and smooth... good some people have all the patience...
@ Scrazza mmm cookies , thanks matey, gonna take my time with him, as much as a impatient man can anyway, he is after all the Future heir of all Praxus , cant have him looking shoddy now! hows the Custom tanith comming along mate?
@ Viktor ,l I am still laughing that i have managed to fill up 8 pages of the blog without putting paint on a single mini... haha, that has to be a dakka record! , although your blog is going the same way methinks! Well as you said i couldnt hold off any longer , my confidence is up , i have fresh paints and plenty of time( well unless i start the comic again tommorow , ) and i have had plenty of opportunity to observe some really oustanding painting on here , as well as some of yours ...lol jk so now iam the one to be judged , dom dom duhhh! arh well , it had to happen eventually! The whites are from a fresh pot over citadel mat black spray. and i think this really helps! the paint really clings much better than car spray ;-) .
I couldnt cheap out on such an important character. It took about 4 coats really thin like, first time i have done that many, same with the blood red. But i think your right they do look brighter than my usual dirty whites on the catachans! Unfortunately he could do with some more clean up work , there is superglue frosting on plenty of his parts and he really needs some greenstuff on his shoulder(big gap) but now i have started i am uncertain if i should start work like that! I notice now that most of my conversions are not very clean, for priming really, I suppose there was always a chance they were never gonna get a lick of paint. Another lesson learnt. Work cleaner with conversions in future if you plan to paint them! hum!
Regards matey
2010/11/16 21:45:36
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Wip Antal
neil101 wrote:@ Scrazza mmm cookies , thanks matey, gonna take my time with him, as much as a impatient man can anyway, he is after all the Future heir of all Praxus , cant have him looking shoddy now! hows the Custom tanith comming along mate?
They are coming along nicely, thank you. Tommorow I'll start sculpting cloaks again. The future heir ey? I'm sure you'll paint him up nicely.
2010/11/16 21:53:05
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Wip Antal
thanks for your pose update^^ his face looks like he is birthed for greatness!
hmmm gaps, thats a very thoughy...i cant help you there...well maybe still. i have atube of glue specially for glueing pottery...its something thats more claylike you could say. after some household glueing with it i wanted to try it out for some conversion or better-ing of minis...maybe you got that too. might work...
by the way, mature antal, very good one^^
as see him now turned, i realized that he wears a backpack... hmmmm i would think about that for a minute. will he really wearing is socks by himslef into combat? i think not. i would use the paintjob and maybe some GS to make it into something in the linse of a shocktrooperbackpack like the ones from the karskin...would be more fitting. as for your red... i discovered something when doing my earthangels: when you have a black undercoat, and you aply a thin coat of red, or some other color. it looks instantly blended in a not too shaby way... i will use this for some of my dudes when its finally dudetime^^ again...
also do you think it will be wise to make my leader of the airship based on http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440247a&prodId=prod1070115?
also i bought today some mortheimers to base some conversions around them...was it worth it?should i expand in that direction? sorry to highjacking...
and one thing for future shyness about painting your creations...there is always simple green in the lands of the queeny^^...
HI Dakkites another small update, so The horesy perry minis arrived today ...Yippee, but iam too engrossed in painting Antal to put them together , maybe later though.
I Am feeling pretty good today , iam verry happy with the way Mature Antal is panning out , gives me lots of positives for the rest of the Antal Adalais planetary deffence personelle body guard Copiae. So i was thinking about how i got here, not exsitentially or anything just , in this position with the Napoleonic Army, As you may know i dont really play 40k , well at least not the official version , just house rules , a skirmish type affair that me and the boys make anew every time we play . Which isnt very often. But when i introduced them to it about 8 years ago, my oldest is 12 , my hankering for collecting and playing the board games came around again, ( which is what i really grew up on, Space crusade, Heroquest, advanced hero quest, Advanced space crusade, and the big one Space hulk although i had and maybe still have RT , i was far more interested in the fantastic backgrounds the artist and writers invented, in the rule books but mainly in WD, My first issue being 101) . But what really captured my imagination was the hordes of imperial guard and Crashing stomping titans, as well as the grimdark adaptus mechanicus. Now i know there have being plenty of other great things about 40k since, Necromundan Hives, oodles of new SM chapters all fully fleshed out ( no imagination needed!) gunships , space combat and FORGEWORLD. But for me there is something romantic about the Imperial Army that i fell in love with many moons ago when i first layed my eyes on Commisars and Orderlies ,and Medics with chainswords. Something so human yet so fanstastically grimdark and futuristic! I could relate to the imperial army better than the mk6 "womble" marines. As i grew up , i realised that GW had created a magical universe out of one that allready exsisted, And i know you know what iam talking about because we have all walked or driven past something , that immeadietly made us think , Now that is pure 40k , ( a giant glass crusher in front of a window and door factory was the last time i had grimdark de ja vu , Ork roller thing with spikes on! ( will have to take a photo of that next time i am out) And more and more as i have completed research projects for stories , i notice more history that has influenced 40k . So when i came to begin my research for praxus , i knew elements of 40k were inspired by Dune, the film more than the books imo. so instead of researching 40k , or dune i thought i would go direct to the source , The renaiscence and the rution revolution , this time. I knew i wanted ribbons and saches , and eppulettes , because they look so damn good , i didnt really want them on all The Praxian Guard, After all they are supposed to be futuristic lasgun carriying soldiers. And if i had pleanty of cash i would of probbabably just baught mordians , vostoyan, Death Korp or Praetorians, but hey this real life and 40k models are expensive right! ,
but then i discovered the amazing world of historical models , mainly the perry mininatures, They seemed to me exactly what Gw had being trying to achieve with the IG all these years especially the perry twins models , who after all designed lots and lots of the 40k and fantasy minis for GW. They had character and soul, and more importantly were realatively cheap! I have periodically perused the perry catologue , but found the metal minis too expensive , and limited when converting. so when i i notice they had started selling plastics , and lots of them. wild horese wouldnt have kept me from purchasing!
But.. after getting them home opening them and once i composed myself from the shock of how small they are, i realised, that its not just the eppulletes and saches that i like , its the commisars , and snipers , and tanks, and lasguns etc.. so what to do the IG army i long for is gone replaced by cadians , who are nice but just not the same, and are also increasingly expensive ( 32 Imperial army boxset, box o 20 cadians, now 10 man squad , and my cash flow wont allow me to collect 200 original figs, which would also negate the creative process. So converting them is the only way to satisfy my longing for grimdark 40k with napoleonic inspired orderlies in metal breastplates, and ww2 gestapo inspired imperialist russian commisars, and my creative drive. Think i went on a tangent a bit there sorry , so basicly trying to say i wanted to show some of my inspiration behind my idea of a pretty and original 40k army, that is full of character but is also cheap easy to convert and true to the original ideas behind the Imperial Army!
so i thought i would post up stuff thats flittering around my head in regards to the direction of these praxian guards.
@ Vik i know there are mold lines on the gun , i just noticed them myself and i think your right about his back pack , he prob wouldnt have it but its asthetically pleasing on the model , and makes him a bit bulkier like 40kIG, They are very small , i would turn it into a hellgun , but onece the paints on i dont like converting , maybe though!
@ all i could do with some advice on what colour to paint his gun, i have trouble with guns ,should they be gun metal are coloured and also his pack thanks guys n gals
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2010/11/17 20:30:08
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update More Wip Antal Adalais or Napoleonic IG Ideas
woah informational overkill....the usual on this blog tho^^...
your antal looks like he was bought and built from finest china...(the stuff that teapots and cups are made of...)
really goodlooking details you´ve made on him. so when will you do commisons? would be a good thing to do? or would that be a confict of interests?
also i see you´ve made him blonde...its a bit cliche`but still goodlooking. why do all herostyle characters have to be blonde? as a dark blone or whats called in german doggish blonde, and you yourself arent a blonde either?^^ i think it funny we instantly think about heros with blonde hair...but he is handsome, nevertheless and this wasnt critique...
in fear of derailing something i have to ask you something:
might i post my very first inspiration regarding my first guard expierience?
Love the imagery! Most certainly not my personal style, but paintings from the Napoleonic era usually have great visuals of heroic war. Also, love the "Space Empire" dudes.....so old school.
Wow, you did your research. Antal looks very good. He is shaping up real good.
For advice. Well, if you want a historical look, Why not paint the lasgun like wood? Except for the metal bits like the barrel. (obviously) For the sacks and backpacks, try to paint it like cow skin. I've seen it before on other miniatures, in movies. I've even seen it on uniforms in museums.
Hope this helped.
2010/11/17 20:51:52
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update More Wip Antal Adalais or Napoleonic IG Ideas
so since you asked for it i will deliver. please bear in mind that my first confrontations with massproduced soldiers was verrrry early in my life. i had the whole life and especially my childhood a very strong affilation to all things militarian. this doenst have to be something thats important or difficult. but bear in mind, my mom abhored all thing concerning guns and the likes. also i was born in western berlin. during my youth it was two seperate cities...and guns and tanks and so on where not so common in the western part. quite the oposite in the eastern part of the city (eastern more russian related for the noneuropeans). so i had a very intense reaction to this:
its from a cartoon series of a small girlish bee but for me the ants marching in duty where always the main point of the series.
i had quite a few of them then after some very bad hardship with my mom (shes mental) they were all lost...
so in short i had always fantasised about big armies marching into ballte. roman legions, british blackpowder soldiers or in the last installment the cadians/praetorians...
so long story short conclusion: i really apreciate your research, modeling and painting on so many levels. looking in your blog is like looking in some long gone part of my childhood. and your not killing it but reviving it, so here is my thank you to you!
thanks my friend, and please dont stop^^
vik
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Thats a great story matze, I can only imagine what growing up in western berlin was like , but you paint a vivid picture mate. I think i have seen that cartoon , or something similar, but i get what you mean about ant like soldiers!, I am suprised you havent collected military Historical minis since the "EVENT" with your mother. Although I know from Fraternity a similar situation , with my own. Although i think its only receantly the historical minis have become cheap enough and of a qaulity that it may be worth while! That Figur aus Überraschungseier is fantastic , if i had those as a kid , maybe i wouldnt be interested in 40k , Your story is a tragic happy one
it really is heartfelt and it reminds me of the Steadfast Tin soldier by hans christian anderson . So tragic but tinged with hope .
So from now on you shall be called The Steadfast Tin Soldier ,
well on Praxus anyway! Thanks for posting that mate, really made my evening.
and thanks for the unfaltering support , it really means something that , i can post honest and heartfelt ideas and feelings without being ridiculed.
oh and about the blonde i know i know , you should see how long i spent on designing the heroin, but iam just as fallible as the next guy to stereotypes, although i kinda based him on the Tsar nicholas the 2nd and King george the 5th who were cousins but could be mistaken for twins!!!!
@agroszkiewicz cheers mate you probably guessed your blog was the inspiration to post my research pics , so thanks for that mate. And i never thought napoleonics was my style , it just grew on me the more research i did, i still dislike any political shanningans to do with it , its justa pure and simple style thing ! although when creating a story around a european style prince
you have to look to these things eventually.
@ Scrazza , you think this is reasearch lol (no offence) you should see my bedroom i have at least 300 pages of clippings and sketches and stories , on Praxus , from flowers to architecture, jewelry to food, well everything it takes to create a world i suppose! , I guess i really should finish the comic so i can share it all!!! And your painting tips i found very useful, i will definately be using those ideas , thanks again
thanks for the encouargement guys
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2010/11/17 21:59:31
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update More Wip Antal Adalais or Napoleonic IG Ideas
the title sound really cool, and somewhat waht every commisar would want his soldiers to be, non?
and your absolutley right now is the time for cheaper historical minis. in my childhood times you would oly get those flat tin men and they would have cost you a lung or two...
by the way: your bedroom? doesn´t you and the missus (amber, i really like the sound of her name, rolls of the tongue, my compliments to her) share a room together?...
well most parts of historical documentation of the napoleonic area leave out the dirty bits and all we mere school educated people remeber and know is the shine polished uniforms and the muscled horse...and the hairdo of napoleon himself. so all the nasty stuff with hunger and rotting wounds and mud and ill soldiers still putting up a fight and whores on battlefields are seldom knowledge...
for making a good looking and convincingly looking army (if set in historical or sifi setting either is irrelevant) your kind of research is the only true one. so fire awawy your research, we can take it. one thing i have come to understand is that in these forums there are so many heavily educated people on board...well sometimes the trailer park idiot you also get but they are a thankfully rare kind...
so we still be waiting for your praxean insights. but you can alwyas sweeten the wait by dropping some more or less hard facts of history for insirational usage...(sounds like a justification for drinking booze?)
I hadn't seen the Steadfast Tin Soldier before, that was cool. I'm stuck doing assignments for Unit work at the moment, so no time for painting. I needed a break so thought i'd pop on dakka and see how things are shaping up.
Looking good as always. Take it easy you guys, once these assignments are done i'll be back properly...
Hey Vik, I used to have to hide my 3 white dwarfs and space crusade under the bed cause my Mum was a strict christian and would've burned me alive if she found them - Mothers eh?
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2010/11/18 13:53:41
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update More Wip Antal Adalais or Napoleonic IG Ideas
truer words were never spoken...
best is she was a very tomcat girl when young...i imagine her playing cowboys and indians then...but some people forgett when grewing older what they used to like...
as for my kids i try to instal some kind of honor codex in them. never beat someone smaller than you and as they are all guys never hurt females...in kindergarten thats only doable for a given value of relyable but for my oldest one no hurtingpolicy is strickt with girls. as for defense, when someones beginning a fight they´re entitled to fight back and stop the bum! so i guess the rest i´m pretty open to warfare and the things involved. my sons have millions of lego and playmobil solders but a puppethouse and a pram as well... gotta give them all the options. also in computergames i still have my hand on the switchon button but when i would play it they can too...if its not so messy^^.
as for hiding your white dwarfs... my mom was very thight on comics as well. as you can imagine this causes problems... when i started working and making my very first own money i spent it all on comics. i was about 16 then. i could see how much i´ve spent on my taxforms...
@ Scrazza , you think this is reasearch lol (no offence) you should see my bedroom i have at least 300 pages of clippings and sketches and stories , on Praxus , from flowers to architecture, jewelry to food, well everything it takes to create a world i suppose! , I guess i really should finish the comic so i can share it all!!!
And your painting tips i found very useful, i will definately be using those ideas , thanks again
Oooh, that level of 'Research' ( ) Puts my background fluff to shame.
Well I am glad I could help with some paintin tips.
oh well who needs money right!
pics are real dark!
, and my cash flow wont allow me to collect 200 original figs, which would also negate the creative process. So converting them is the only way to satisfy my longing for grimdark 
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