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saw the 60 dollar witchelves, died a little inside. Guess my cult of khaine army wont be happening this time around.

grimdark83 wrote:
saw the 60 dollar witchelves, died a little inside. Guess my cult of khaine army wont be happening this time around.

Give it a couple days before dying inside. We know nothing other than some alleged price list.

Feth, even if they're twenty to a box that's no fun at all anymore - certainly not for a witch elf-centric army

 Bolognesus wrote:
Feth, even if they're twenty to a box that's no fun at all anymore - certainly not for a witch elf-centric army

I actually just checked and...

Witch Elves are 5 for $33 in the US right now. Assuming something similar in Europe.

So if they moved to plastic and are a box of 10, that's still a 10% discount off of the old price and they are in plastic so presumably easier to convert, etc.

If they are 20, than that's a 55% discount off the old price and there is really no room to complain.

So... Were you looking for free puppies along with every box or something?

edit: I assume if they are 5 for $60, that'll be a whole different matter and I'll agree that they are too spendy now.

we know they are not going to be 20 man boxes. If the sisters of avelorn were 10 man boxes, why would the WEs be 20 for the same price

 Bolognesus wrote:
Feth, even if they're twenty to a box that's no fun at all anymore - certainly not for a witch elf-centric army

Relax: Witch Elves are still unplayable with the new rules

grimdark83 wrote:
we know they are not going to be 20 man boxes. If the sisters of avelorn were 10 man boxes, why would the WEs be 20 for the same price

Even if they are 10, that's still a 10% discount off the old price, plus plastic and all the benefits involved with that.

Hey, I don't have a bone in this; DE aren't anything I'll be buying anytime soon. Those $33 for five units aren't a realistic option for a fantasy game where several twenty-man units are the baseline before doing 'cool' stuff, however. A discount from 'insane' will likely still end up 'crazy'.

grimdark83 wrote:
we know they are not going to be 20 man boxes. If the sisters of avelorn were 10 man boxes, why would the WEs be 20 for the same price

Sister of Avelorn are a dual kit with Shadow Warriors.

Witch Elves aren't.

 Kanluwen wrote:

grimdark83 wrote:
we know they are not going to be 20 man boxes. If the sisters of avelorn were 10 man boxes, why would the WEs be 20 for the same price

Sister of Avelorn are a dual kit with Shadow Warriors.

Witch Elves aren't.

Someone on warseer claims that they are a witchelf /sisters of slaughter kit thou. This might be entirely wrong but it would justify the price as far as GW is concerned

sisters of slaughter lolololol

You can't make these names up... you just can't

So.. First time the GW teaser actually appears before the leaked pics?

grimdark83 wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

grimdark83 wrote:
we know they are not going to be 20 man boxes. If the sisters of avelorn were 10 man boxes, why would the WEs be 20 for the same price

Sister of Avelorn are a dual kit with Shadow Warriors.

Witch Elves aren't.

Someone on warseer claims that they are a witchelf /sisters of slaughter kit thou. This might be entirely wrong but it would justify the price as far as GW is concerned

Yeah, but what is there suggesting that the Sisters of Slaughter are going to be a different loadout?

The Kabalite Warriors and Dark Eldar Wyches can technically be considered "dual kits" since they're what you use for the Kabalite Trueborn and the Hekatrix Bloodbrides.


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 RiTides wrote:
You can't make these names up... you just can't

Considering the crummy names that the Dark Elves had before, anything is an improvement.

Hey come on now.. they might be awesome. I can see it now... totally covered in Blood.

Although to be fair, if Dark Eldar came out now the Wyches box would probably be a duel kit with the Bloodbrides.

Forgive my newness. Was wondering if I wanted to do a Pirate like army, and after seeing that teaser clip, are dark elf kinda pirates? Will they make pirate goodness stuff?

One of our troop choices are called Corsairs, which where french and north African pirates in all but name. Also Druchii terrorize the world from the back of huge (HUGE.. really massive ) ships known as Black Arks, I think we could be seen as pirates.

They are also slavers, Better than everyone else.. and as one insightful chap on facebook noted earlier.. 'This is our world! You just live in it'

Not having leaked pictures by now is killing me,

didn't we have marines like 3 weeks in advanced?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah, but what is there suggesting that the Sisters of Slaughter are going to be a different loadout?

The Naughty Sisters got whips AFAIK, so it technically and financially is a dual kit.

Also:

Orth over at Warseer wrote:US now posted consistent with others:

Book 49.5
magic cards 6
shadowblade plastic 20
dreadspears plastic 35
witches plastic 60
Karibdyss/hydra plastic 65
cauldron plastic 75
shield pack resin 9.5

Arduhn over at Warseer wrote:I can confirm a second wave. I can also tell you that pictures of second wave stuff will be in the book.

BTW "You are prey" is referring to the customers obviously

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:
Feth, even if they're twenty to a box that's no fun at all anymore - certainly not for a witch elf-centric army

Relax: Witch Elves are still unplayable with the new rules

What do you mean, still unplayable.? I use then to devastating effect regularly. Ten will trash twice their number in Swordmasters, and they absolutely puree most core troops!

They may wind up sucking in the new book, which would be a shame. But in the current (7e) book, they are quite dangerous... when used properly.

 reds8n wrote:


... blimey ! The Fishmen are coming...

I was expecting to see glimpse of the Creature of the Black Lagoon.

Strange that, after they finally got the whole "teaser" thing right with Tau release, they have reverted back to these weak teasers. Guess that one was an accident.

Bunch of little tidbits regarding the WE kit and rules from Warseer. Take with salt:

Originally Posted by Arduhn
Witch Elves are core now, that's true.

Originally Posted by Arduhn
It might be 20...the box is as fat as a monstrous infantry kit...

Originally Posted by DexterV
I've heard wich elves box have more than 10 models, but TBC.

 silent25 wrote:
Bunch of little tidbits regarding the WE kit and rules from Warseer. Take with salt:

Originally Posted by Arduhn
Witch Elves are core now, that's true.

Originally Posted by Arduhn
It might be 20...the box is as fat as a monstrous infantry kit...

Originally Posted by DexterV
I've heard wich elves box have more than 10 models, but TBC.

I would hope that at $60 USD per box (if those rumors are true) that it would be a 20-model count box...

I am pretty psyched about all of this stuff, as it sounds like totally ace conversion fodder for Dark Eldar, and I am working on some DE allies for my Eldar.

-C6

PS-And where are them dang pics! I'm getting fed up with the "we have pics but won't show them" BS... Not sure I even believe that. If they have pics, why not show a 80% blacked-out on to prove it?

If its ten I'll get four boxes, if its twenty I'll still get four but laugh maniacally as I pick them up on the Saturday.

Like the sound of the whips.

I'm convinced at this point that no one actually has the alleged pictures, and the usual rumor mongers are just trying to keep their traffic up.

We haven't seen a release go this late without SOMETHING to go by. Even the flyers had rough MS Paint sketches released when the pics weren't up.

 Aerethan wrote:
I'm convinced at this point that no one actually has the alleged pictures, and the usual rumor mongers are just trying to keep their traffic up.

That would be rather short-sighted. There is no way to back down gracefully from such a ploy, and that means your reputation is kaput once it comes out.

Is there no Fantasy Radio podcast that GW can use for free advertisement and to send pictures to?

(Buys up domain...)

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I'm convinced at this point that no one actually has the alleged pictures, and the usual rumor mongers are just trying to keep their traffic up.

That would be rather short-sighted. There is no way to back down gracefully from such a ploy, and that means your reputation is kaput once it comes out.

But how would we ever know? They could very well just end up saying that the pics they have are the same from WD 1:1.

Unless every pic has some major watermark over them, which would imply that they were leaked intentionally by GW to certain parties, then what reason is there to not post them? DE is far from being as big a deal as Space Marines, and we had those pictures weeks in advance. Here we are with just 5 days left before the official pics are out and still all we have are some crap descriptions by guys who don't play WFB at all(as evidenced by their review of Lizardmen and their general lack of knowledge about that line or any of the names).

At least with Harry we've had consistency. He always posts rumors only, and when he offers descriptions they've always been spot on.

The latest batch of rumors I've seen from all the other sources have been very "Holy crap it's cool but we can't show you because reasons".




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 d-usa wrote:
Is there no Fantasy Radio podcast that GW can use for free advertisement and to send pictures to?

(Buys up domain...)

I'd gladly start up a podcast with another person for GW model reviews, if only GW gave a crap about the people who buy their products. There is no shortage of players who prefer WFB as their primary game and who are at least qualified to speak about models in proper comparison to their previous iterations.

To be fair on them if they have a source who is able to leak them pics that are official, on the proviso that they are not shown, I'd not show them either.

Basically confirmation will be if the pics in the White Dwarf are accurate. We'll all know soon enough, only a few days at worst.

 Aerethan wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

 Aerethan wrote:
I'm convinced at this point that no one actually has the alleged pictures, and the usual rumor mongers are just trying to keep their traffic up.

That would be rather short-sighted. There is no way to back down gracefully from such a ploy, and that means your reputation is kaput once it comes out.

But how would we ever know? They could very well just end up saying that the pics they have are the same from WD 1:1.

Unless every pic has some major watermark over them, which would imply that they were leaked intentionally by GW to certain parties, then what reason is there to not post them? DE is far from being as big a deal as Space Marines, and we had those pictures weeks in advance. Here we are with just 5 days left before the official pics are out and still all we have are some crap descriptions by guys who don't play WFB at all(as evidenced by their review of Lizardmen and their general lack of knowledge about that line or any of the names).

At least with Harry we've had consistency. He always posts rumors only, and when he offers descriptions they've always been spot on.

The latest batch of rumors I've seen from all the other sources have been very "Holy crap it's cool but we can't show you because reasons".

Except that 40k Radio has been providing some rather specific details on the kits. Snake bodied Medusa on a throne is not something that you "can just guess". There are enough specific details on a number of kits and color of paint jobs in the WD that can prove or disprove they have the pictures or not. There are enough to make or break 40k Radio.