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Hello all,
I´ve got a question. I own a nearly 2000 points army of Chaosdwarfs, consisting of old models, blood-bowl models and conversions. And I´ve got a Batlle for skull pass box. After looking at some of the conversions on www.chaos-dwarfs.com I do now consider using more of the skull-pass dwarfs as chaosdwarfs. Therefor, I would have to use modelling-mass like green stuff. Now being quite a hypochondriac, I wanted to ask if green stuff is dangerous. I have seen people under the age of 16 not getting it at our FLGS and I have also seen people eating something while using it. Do you know how dangerous it is, and if there are other modelling-masses on the market? Thanks in advantage ,
Bigfood

This page - http://www.bananaking.net/cento/workshop/conv_green.htm should answer all your questions. I have posted the relevant health information below:

Is Green Stuff Poisonous?
Be aware that there is a common rumor as to the toxicity or cancer potential of Green Stuff. Here are Sandra Garrity's comments on the subject as posted to the 1listsculpting mailing list (Sandra is one of the most respected figure sculptors in the world, and has worked for Ral Partha, Reaper, and many other companies):

"The Kneadatite Blue/Yellow (green stuff) is NOT "carcinogenic". That was a rumor started by a competitor back in 1992-3. I have the MSDS on it and anyone can also get it from PSI to see for yourselves what is in the putty.

"After Loctite replaced the PSI formula in 1993, I did work for a year as a consultant to the Loctite Corporation. They had replaced the PSI formula (our "green stuff") with the competitor's product. (I found out later that it was because the competitor priced their product lower) Loctite paid me to work with the competitor to try to bring their product closer to the PSI product---To say that the competitor was totally unsuccessful would be a huge understatement! I finally told the Loctite people not to waste any more money, that the competitor did not have the ability to match the former product.

"I did not know at that time that PSI had been the manufactuer of our "Green Stuff". Loctite Corporation had given me the story that they'd stopped using the original formula because it caused cancer(A LIE!) and that it was made overseas(ALSO A LIE!)

"Later, after I'd given up trying to get Loctite's other manufacturer to match the "green", I contacted PSI to order their Blue/white putty and found out that PSI--Polymeric Systems Inc., was the manufacturer of the "Green". I told them what I'd been told by Loctite and the other manufacturer about the "Green Stuff" causing cancer. They sent me the MSDS on the "green stuff" and it came to light that the competitor and Loctite were spreading a totally false story about the PSI product causing cancer.

"*A note to all*--do not blindly believe rumors! --check it out before you believe what you read or hear. The truth is out there! Look for it!"

Sandra L. Garrity

Thank you for answering so fast and so well!
This is a really interestng story with the competition and all. But I think this really calms me down.
One question is still left.: I always thought green stuff included resin. In the GW terrain-book it says in the chapter of building lakes with fluid resin.:

" fluid resin is very poisonous and should be used wearing a mask" What´s about the resin in Green Stuff

Thanks again,
Bigfood

No, Green Stuff is Epoxy putty. The Resin they are talking about is a clear resin used in model train scenery.

It's not toxic, but that doesn't mean it's food either.

Most epoxy putties are non-toxic; Green Stuff and ProCreate are, IMO, the best of them.

As for other sculpting mediums, polymer clays are good for larger sculpts, but there are real concerns over carcinogens with them, both in the handling of them and in fumes released during baking.

But Green Stuff and ProCreate are pretty much fine.

It's worth taking the warning to wash your hands thoroughly before eating seriously though. The one time I didn't, I had what I shall attempt to politely call "strange, anti-social intestinal problems" for about three days afterward.

About two weeks later, I was hanging out a friend's place, both of us doing some converting. He was alternating between greenstuffing some orks and eating a sandwich. I mentioned my experience, and how, perhaps, he might not want to combine the two activities. He didn't take my warnings seriously until he also spent three days make unplanned runs to the restroom.

Dangerous? Nah. Worth avoiding the experience? Definitely.

Thank you all very much!

I think I will buy me some Greenstuff, it sounds like the best option.

At Balzac.: I admire your sacrifice for the hobby

bigfood wrote:At Balzac.: I admire your sacrifice for the hobby

Well, it's a crappy job, but.....never mind.