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So in the early post i did about putting an auto cannon on a vinidcator, a debate that the ammo and logistics and what not would not let you support a turret on a vindicator due to the ammo. So i am setting out to prove that theory wrong, here is my autocannon for my main turret, i will be doing a complete interior to match the diagrams that forgeworld has put out

Thinking in a logical manner here (yet unfluffy), but the average game seems to be 5-6 turns.
The auto fires 2 per turn, so would only need to carry 10 - 12 rounds.
Side mounted storage for the ammo are more than possible.
Even a single / twin sickle mag should do the job (maybe a top entry sickle mag or 2?)

i have thought about that heavily, the vinidcator is suppose to carry 16 rounds, i will model mine to carry 5 rounds maybe 7 and about 150+ autocannon rounds, plus i have plans for a turret basket while retaining the crane and loading ramp for the vindicator. For the autocannon as you can see i modelled it with a 8 round gas fed magazine. I also included a elctro magnetic recoil buffer spring under the gun and sites to the left of it.

You could (just an idea here) But have the ammo running on a belt fed system from a box at the back of the turret.
It could then run around the turret (in a casing) and then into the gun.
Could even do this with a single or double side box.

i dont see an ammo problem as much as i see a useless tank problem. Autocannons are long range, vidicators are short.... choose a role and fill it.

the role is that of an M3 Lee or Grant depends on your nationality, FLUFF wise the Dark Angels were having their predators targeted and they needed additional firepower as they found themselves pushed into a more traditional tank warfare role. On that not what do marine tank crews wear, scout like armour?

Autocannons are long range, vidicators are short.... choose a role and fill it.

It has a role.
It can hunt tanks and infantry with both weapons.

The baal pred has a TL assault cannon and 2 heavy flamers.
Very different roles, but work well together.


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Also, a random idea

Tesla pattern Predator

Weapons:

Turret mounted TL plasma cannon
2 Sponson mounted plasma cannons

Cost: 140 points.


Something like that would have a use

i like that idea, I am working on the Predator Hurricane which is sponson hurricane bolters and TL assault cannon turret

Mini LR crusader?

Im also thinking: Predator Infernus
Points - 150
Weapons - Turret mounted TL multimelta, 2 sponson mounted multimeltas

Simply for fun XD

Screw it let the Dark Angels die, god damn fence sitters. A Baal predator is an Anti- infinatry tank, hence the flamers but really i arm mine with the heavy bolters. But then again i'm not trying to justify a giant breaching cannon and a light vehicle cannon on the same chasis...


But hey let me tell you about my Valkyries with the chin mounted rail gun....

an autocannon make sense on a vindicator. How does it protect itself on open killing grounds. This lets the tank be flexed on a battlefield much better, its like a moden M1 Abrams it doesnt carry one type of round cause if it did it would lose its tactical edge of flexibility

Your playing 40k, you dont have the luxury of being tactically flexible....(khorne daemons)
Although i really like your vanquisher tank, this is one i do not

I still think a battle cannon would work better fluff and balance wise.

lol true, thank you for the compliment. I think it will be much better when you all see it put together

I like the concept.

But I'm whiny so i will say this wah, another cool tank variant Chao's doesn't get D:.

why not make one for chaos, fluff could be a captured dark angels one

Doesn't the turret have a hatch? Where will the marines fit into all of this?

Granted, it isn't your fault that GW vehicles are all horribly underscaled. I'm just curious as to if you have a solution to that problem.

i solved the solution by removing 12 of the 16 vindicator rounds that it carries

Ooooooo, Yes.

And I love Iron Warrior's stuff this would fit the bill.

yeah it would they are siege masters right? so the vindi gun covers that but then to provide some long range weapons too the autocannon was fitted to fill that void

JD21290 wrote:Thinking in a logical manner here (yet unfluffy), but the average game seems to be 5-6 turns.
The auto fires 2 per turn, so would only need to carry 10 - 12 rounds.
Side mounted storage for the ammo are more than possible.
Even a single / twin sickle mag should do the job (maybe a top entry sickle mag or 2?)

Thinking in a logical manner... the number of to-hit dice you roll for a weapon has nothing to do with the number of actual shots fired. It is merely a means of determining how effective a weapon is in combat. Modern 25 to 40mm RFACs fire about 200 rounds per minute hence it would burn through 12 rounds in about 3 seconds

Its all about the gaming mechanisms.