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2010/04/14 17:13:46
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Fixture of Dakka
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So, what would you say to be the best troops choice in the 40K universe (game terms)?
I've included a poll of the likely candidates so please vote and voice your opinion of why you voted for whomever, thanks.
(this will be regarding standard troop choices, not units that are made a troops choice through special characters, eg. Sternguard/Pedro)
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This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2010/04/15 12:13:46
Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/04/14 17:21:22
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Grey Hunters - awesomeness cannot be over stated.
1. Grey Hunter
2. Plague Marines
3. IG Vets - 3 x Melta/Plasma thanks for coming
4=. Orks
4=. Bloodletters
5. Space Marine Tac Squad
6. Dire Avengers
Not really sure about the rest.
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DC:80S++G+M+B+IPw40k96#-D++A++++/fWD180R+T(T)DM+
Please check out my Wolves: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/333299.page
Space Wolves Ragnars Great Company (4000) 
Ultramarines IV Company (4000)  
Cadia's Foot your Ass (3000)  
Khorne's Fluffy Bunnies (2500)   
Praetorian Titan Legion (3 big angry robots + 1 skinny tech priest) 
High Elves, Empire, Dark Elves, Brettonians |
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2010/04/14 17:22:30
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Personally, I'm torn between Grey Hunters and Dire Avengers, but (likely due to bias also) I'm gonna have to opt for Grey Hunters due to being tough, possessing formidable close quarters firepower, capable of possessing specialised weaponry that - unlike tactical squads - would all work within the same range of their boltguns and also upgrades such as MotW to help them in close combat. thoughts?
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/04/14 17:48:12
Subject: Re:Best Troops Choice?
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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Grey Hunters. I mean what can't these guys do? And for less points than their SM counter-parts.
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-Any terrain containing Sly Marbo is dangerous terrain.
-Sly Marbo once played an objective mission just to see what it was like to not meet every victory condition on his own.
-Sly Marbo bought a third edition rulebook just to play meat grinder as the attacker.
-Marbo doesn't need an Eldar farseer as an ally; his enemies are already doomed
-Sly Marbo was originally armed with a power weapon, but he dropped it while assaulting a space marine command squad just so his enemies could feel pain
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2010/04/14 17:51:39
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Plagues and SW were on the top of my list, but I have to hand it to the Plagues, they have never let me down.
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This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done.
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2010/04/14 17:53:00
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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I love the amount of love for the Space Puppies it brings a tear to my eye. Now all I need is rules for my new Scrappy Doo character tum tee tum 
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DC:80S++G+M+B+IPw40k96#-D++A++++/fWD180R+T(T)DM+
Please check out my Wolves: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/333299.page
Space Wolves Ragnars Great Company (4000)
Ultramarines IV Company (4000)
Cadia's Foot your Ass (3000)
Khorne's Fluffy Bunnies (2500)
Praetorian Titan Legion (3 big angry robots + 1 skinny tech priest)
High Elves, Empire, Dark Elves, Brettonians |
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2010/04/14 17:55:31
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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You forgot battle sisters. They've got my vote, for being cheap (in pts obviously  ), good quality, tough troops.
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2010/04/14 18:03:36
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, Plague Marines almost had my vote aswell, but then there's their points cost, giving Space Wolves the edge IMHO.
and yeah, battle sisters have been added...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/04/14 18:06:03
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Plague Marines? What about Chaos Space Marines?
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2010/04/14 18:08:24
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I didn't think anyone would give them the chance, afterall aren't they trumped by tactical squads and grey hunters?
(have been added out of kindness!)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/14 18:19:25
Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/04/14 20:35:33
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Still early in the poll, but I expected a bit more love for da ladz. Lots of solid troops choices, but how would each fare against the 2-3 ork boys you get for the same price?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/14 20:56:40
The Dreadnote wrote:But the Emperor already has a shrine, in the form of your local Games Workshop. You honour him by sacrificing your money to the plastic effigies of his warriors. In time, your devotion will be rewarded with the gift of having even more effigies to worship.
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2010/04/14 20:52:38
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Inside a pretty, pretty pain cave... won't you come inside?
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Grey Hunters, easily IMO. I think Berserkers or even basic Chaos Space Marines are arguably better than Plague Marines, but whatever.
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2010/04/14 21:03:28
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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GH, easy. Cheap, durable, flexible - everything you want from a troops choice.
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2010/04/14 21:05:08
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I voted for Tactical Marines before I had access to Chaos Space Marines. Let it be noted.
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2010/04/15 02:39:24
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Point-for-point, Bloodletters are very impressive. Fearless, invulnerable saves, S5 and I5 on the charge with power weapons and a higher WS than anything but Genestealers...
Grey Knights deserve an honourable mention for having the highest strength (S6) of any troop choice in the game as well as Storm Bolters, True Grit and the ability to counter any Psyker attack and having Shrouding.
Were it not for the fact that there are only five metal models and they cost too much (points and pounds) they'd be my winners.
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Codex: Grey Knights touched me in the bad place... |
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2010/04/15 02:48:39
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Executing Exarch
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WTF, no Dark eldar raider squads?
For only 105 pt I can get a fast skimmer with 2 dark lances... I don't think anyone can beat that.
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2010/04/15 04:27:54
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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I dunno, but fo 110 I can get 10 models in power armour!
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6000 points IG, Leviathins 8th company, (store regiment) 60% painted 
4500 points Empire 80-90% painted!
2500 Ogres 2% painted
WIP Biker Battle Company 95% painted
2500 Points Isstavan Drop site massacre Iron Hands (still waiting for dat codex) 
I managed to play a 1750 point game with minimal proxieing on the first day DE came out.  go me!
The Gutterballers, a relatively successfull BloodBowl team
Oh, and Howard's Faildar  
4000 points Adeptus Titanicus |
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2010/04/15 04:43:27
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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The question's for the best troop choice, not the best mounted and upgraded troop choice...
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Codex: Grey Knights touched me in the bad place... |
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2010/04/15 04:48:00
Subject: Re:Best Troops Choice?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
Between Alpha and Omega, and a little to the left
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Oi, ya gits! Doncha know?! Ork boyz iz made for fightin' and winnin'!
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2010/04/15 06:07:32
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Ontario
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Space Wolves, they just rock all worlds when it comes to Troops.
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DCDA:90-S++G+++MB++I+Pw40k98-D+++A+++/areWD007R++T(S)DM+ |
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2010/04/15 11:06:21
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Dire avengers aren't necessarily overpriced, but they're not great against marines (i.e. most players) they can't get any weapons to help wound high-toughness or FNP units, or any anti-vehicle weapons, which are the #1 criteria for success these days.
So, I vote for plague marines, they always give me trouble when I play them.
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 Eldar Corsairs: 4000 pts
Imperial Guard: 4000 pts
 Corregidor 700 pts
 Acontecimento 400 pts |
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2010/04/15 11:18:18
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ork boyz, cheapness ftw!
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2010/04/15 12:12:45
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hell, it's good to see everything has got a vote.
I'm surprised that Tervigons, Veterans and Assault Squads aren't getting more love tbh, but I agree with Grey Hunters and Plague Marines being the front runners...
(edit: have added an 'other' catergory. sorted.)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2010/04/15 12:14:21
Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/04/15 12:18:54
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I am personally a Tactical fan, for two reasons - they are pretty nasty buggers in combat, and they don't look like fething space vikings (Spehss Puppiez).
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I have 2000 points of , called the Crimson Leaves.
I will soon be starting WoC, devoted to 
I have 500 points of  , in blueberry and ice cream (light grey and light blue) flavour. From the fictional world Darkheim.
DarkHound wrote:Stop it you. Core has changed. It's no longer about nations, ideologies or ethnicity. It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries and machines. Core, and its consumption of life, has become a well-oiled machine. Core has changed. ID tagged soldiers carry ID tagged weapons, use ID tagged gear. Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities. Genetic control. Information control. Emotion control. Battlefield control. Everything is monitored, and kept under control. Core has changed. The age of deterrence has become the age of control. All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction. And he who controls the battlefield, controls history. Core has changed. When the battlefield is under total control, war... becomes routine.
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2010/04/15 12:19:07
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Dakka Veteran
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Necron Warrior.
He dies and he dies and he dies for you, but he will never earn your love?
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 Tombworld El'Lahaun 2500pts
 Hive Fleet Vestis 5000pts
 Disciples of Caliban 2000pts
 Crimson Fist 2000pts
World Eaters 1850pts
 Angels Encarmine 1850pts
 Iron Hospitalers 1850 pts (Black Templar Successor)
 Sons of Medusa 1850pts
Tartarus IXth Renegade Legion 2500pts
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2010/04/15 12:23:04
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Fixture of Dakka
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RxGhost wrote:Necron Warrior.
He dies and he dies and he dies for you, but he will never earn your love?
Not at 18 points, Phase Out and Initiative 2 he doesn't...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/04/15 12:29:09
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Dakka Veteran
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One Necron will never phase out.
You can't kill 75% of one model.
He gets knocked down, but he gets up again, you're never gonna' keep him down.
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Tombworld El'Lahaun 2500pts
Hive Fleet Vestis 5000pts
Disciples of Caliban 2000pts
Crimson Fist 2000pts
World Eaters 1850pts
Angels Encarmine 1850pts
Iron Hospitalers 1850 pts (Black Templar Successor)
Sons of Medusa 1850pts
Tartarus IXth Renegade Legion 2500pts
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2010/04/15 12:33:36
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Fixture of Dakka
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No but you can kill 75% of a ten-man minimum squad.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2010/04/15 12:37:59
Subject: Best Troops Choice?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Imperial Guard platoon.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
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2010/04/15 12:56:33
Subject: Re:Best Troops Choice?
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Bounding Black Templar Assault Marine
Melbourne, Australia
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Genestlealers for their hilarity value. D:
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Bonespitta's Badmoons 1441 pts. 