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I know a lot of the models posted have been scavenging engines off star wars models to get low cost engines comparable to the ones on the thunderhawk, but I have been thinking about making one using engines similar to a V-22 Osprey. They sport two large props that can rotate between verticle and horozontal to create interesting maneouverablility. It gives it all the benifits of a plane and a helicopter. Link below is an example of a V-22.

You could try. Those engines look like they'd be more at home on a Tau aircraft though (minus the blades).

Instead of the V-22 Osprey, you could similarly use the Harrier Jump Jet approach. It just seems more 40k with the jet engines.

I had thought of the harrier, but the engine setup is far too streamlined. Wouldn't have that Astartes feel. I thought that I could square off the motor portion of the Osprey engines and get a space marine look. I am not sold on the Osprey, but I am trying to come up with a more original idea. But as for the harrier suggestion, that is exactly the sort of input im looking for, something different. Thanks Son of Marneus.
Broetan, do you think it would still look too Tau-ish with the square bulked/armoured motors?

BTW I am not wanting to use the Osprey itself, just the engine concept. Not sure if I was understanding wether you were saying the engines or the osprey itself was Tau-ish.

Thanks guys

I went with the V-22 tried to make it work and I failed but what can you do.

MDizzle, what was the biggest pitfall? Did it just not look right?

There's a 1/48 (or so) scale Osprey model about the size of a Valkyrie. I converted it as an Inquisition shuttle ages ago but don't have a picture handy. I'll see if I can dig it out.


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Ah here they are... Paint is crappy but I did this a good six years ago.

Here is a rough sketch of what I am kind of thinking. I dont have a scanner so I had to make it in MS paint. I only represented the port side wing(couldnt get the balance with the starboard using the program), but I think it conveyes the general idea.

CHEERS

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Once again, suggestions please. And thanks in advance to all comments and suggestions.

It would look better as a jet engin that would rotate with a power plant on each side of the main hull. The small engines at the wing tips would give it VTOL and each ablility to move into and out of tight spots. A turboprop on a SM vehicle does not fit to well. Props can not handle the stress that a SM assault vehicle would have to put through.

Well, I think I have been successfully talked out of the props. I think the last argument against was the best though. The props would reall be too fragile for the kind of abuse SM assaults would give them. With that being said I like the wing configuration on my sketch. I am posting below a further WIP sketch with notes. For those wondering, I do plan on building this, I am one who must plan ahead. Once again thank you all for your help.

My only criticism would be the propeller blades. If perhaps you had 'jet engines' on the wings instead of propellers. While your design looks very cool and original, it seems very much out of the 40k universe with those propellers. (Unless your ork that is!)

i lovee it

Its a nice idea for a generic transport, but I thought Stormravens were orbital drop ships. I just don't think that propellors would cut it. Also I think a prop driven craft is a bit slow for marines in general.

Yeah, to me propellors just don't look right - and they're also horribly fragile when transporting models.

Personally I'd go for an imperial version of the Tau large skimmer engines - similar looking but a little chunkier and lower tech.

The dynamic air speed velocity of the design would not work so not very clever Idea having only one wing will just make circles and will start spyralling (sorry ive never spelt that).

Maybe some Warthog engines would work for what you want... they'd be the kind of short powerful looking engines that could fit the bill.

There is a valkrie to vulture conversion out there... guy made a nice jet engine intake with plasticard and a wood dowel.

There is also a stormraven conversion where a guy added plasticard to an enclosed rotor assembly to make it look jet-like. Looked pretty good and will be awesom eif he can use the plasticard/dowel idea for the intake.

ender502

You could get more of a jet look by stealing the engines off of a Hunter Killer toy from the Terminator movies:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B001KPOJSS/ref=dp_image_z_0?ie=UTF8&n=165793011&s=toys-and-games

I think their about an inch and a half long and a little over three quarters of an inch in diameter.

Here is the deal the engines are too big on the 1:48 model and I know in the codex it says that it has a bunch of vectored thrusters what I would do is get some valk wing bits and shave them to have the vectored engines that are on the end of the valk wing now so get 4 wings shave 2 to make them short and mount them near the front of the craft where the small wings would be on a Thunderhawk.

MDizzle- I am going to use the extra-vectored thrusters that are on the wings, but Im going to make them with plasicard tubing.

rwwin-I like those. I just might have to pick those up.

ender-I will take a look at it.

helgrenze-that is more or less what I am looking for now.

scar- In an above post I explained that I couldnt represent the starboard wing with the program I was using, but it will be identical to the port wing. BTW (Spiraling)*wink

Thanks All

Ok, this is basically a badly drawn amalgamation of your idea, a BSG Raptor and current joined wing concept aircraft. The vectored engines would go where you originally planned, but the Dreadnought goes in the SR in the rear section. Weapons attached wherever they would fit/look good. Additional air inlets on the airframe for additional fixed power plants on the hull. Hope it helps.

If you can wait for the Manticore, you'll get 4 Big Rocket Engines that way.. 2x2 on each wing..

You need engines on the wing tips that are large enough to lift the vehicle from a stand still. You could have some Land Speeder anti-gav pads on the bottom to lessen the load for the power plants.

Pipboy- I think the Anti-Grav pads are a great idea. I think I would model it with three of them. Similar to the setup of the old metal necron destroyers, but with detailing like the landspeeder pads.

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To be honest, while the updates are still cool, I prefer the bi-plane effect you had going on probably because I haven't seen an idea like that before. The addition of the horizontal tail plane makes a big difference. Good job

Son of Marneus- Ill try and post one with the full tail fins with the bi-wings. I prefered the bi-wing, but I wanted to get some feedback for both. Im glad you like it as well. Thanks for your sketch. It is a little too tall for my taste though. Reminds me the a Star-Wars troop transport.

Fair enough, its all personal taste (and poor drawing ability) but I'm not a big fan of hanging the dreadnought underneath so I tried to get it to fit in. The Star-Wars transport was completely unintentional.

It did give me an idea for making the cockpit and crew compartment wider and having two tail sections. The wider compartment would easily make it able to transport the dred inside. I would just have to make the rear access point large, much like a C-130.

Some good alternates for the A10 engines would be Commercial Airliners.... Boeing 777, Airbus 300, DC10.
You might also look at some of the smaller Learjet type planes. The big factor is getting the right Scale engine. The ones I listed have that same "Big Engine" look to them.