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2015/08/03 14:40:14
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Under no circumstance would I lower myself to playing anything resembeling AoS
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2015/08/03 14:52:21
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Dakka Veteran
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Voted no, my mind is closed.
I play in a friendly long standing group so its not balancing thats an issue. I personally like points systems just for the enjoyment of list building, but even that is not the main put off.
Losing the ability to customize anything means I literally have no desire to play that game.
MTG was my other go-to after I dropped WHF some years back (good riddance) and it's light years ahead of GWs games in terms of rules balance and tournament compatibility not to mention collectible aspect. I'd probably just focus on that more.
Many of my friends have said similar about Age of Suckmore.
Not really sure if we would just stick to 7th and start writing our own rules as a stop-gap or simply move on to something else. Hopefully we don't have to find out.
Edit- I should add I think the new models are dope. BUT I'm a gamer first. I love the hobby for the camaraderie not the pretty little models. Lose the rules lose the players.
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2015/08/03 14:57:05
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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No, as here is the thing, while aos has brought new people into the hobby, it has also put a lot of people off, if gw started to release a set of end times 40k books, I honestly think it would hurt sales as people simply do not trust gw, they would assume gw are going to ruin the game (like they did to fantasy) and stop buying models etc. Until we knew what was happening to 40k, if it was just the dakka whiners (we are a whiny lot lol) then I could understand, but I'm seeing people from all walks not liking aos, even my Sgt major approached me and asked me what I thought (that was a bum churning moment, as no one likes to be brecon pointed and asked an opinion by a say major haha)
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2015/08/03 15:07:32
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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I'd be happy with the rules being less horriubly overpriced and bloated at the very least. Overwise a very big no from me.
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2015/08/03 15:19:32
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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I've kinda been wanting something like Age of Sigmar to happen to 40K just to make the games overall easier and quicker.
That said, I don't think I'd enjoy playing in a time where the emperor has been resurrected. Now, playing Horus Heresy (though that would be Warhammer 30K instead). Being able to play some of those just awesome historic battles would be incredible. Unfortunately, not all of the Xeno species had been discovered by that time causing some armies not to exist. Others would have to change colors as some have pre-Heresy and post-Heresy color schemes.
Still, I think it'd be fun. But, I'd definitely settle for a much more simple set of rules, free rulebook, and free Datasheets/Dataslates for all armies.
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40K - T'au Empire
Kill Team - T'au Empire, Death Guard
Warhammer Underworlds - Garrek’s Reavers
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2015/08/03 15:22:05
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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ServiceGames wrote:I've kinda been wanting something like Age of Sigmar to happen to 40K just to make the games overall easier and quicker.
That said, I don't think I'd enjoy playing in a time where the emperor has been resurrected. Now, playing Horus Heresy (though that would be Warhammer 30K instead). Being able to play some of those just awesome historic battles would be incredible. Unfortunately, not all of the Xeno species had been discovered by that time causing some armies not to exist. Others would have to change colors as some have pre-Heresy and post-Heresy color schemes.
Still, I think it'd be fun. But, I'd definitely settle for a much more simple set of rules, free rulebook, and free Datasheets/Dataslates for all armies.
That's a point I had not considered. I most certainly would not want to play in a time of the Emperor. Because GW would give yet another awesome, unkillable thing to the Imperium, and Xenos would be screwed.
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2015/08/03 15:25:56
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Lord of the Fleet
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Absolutely not.
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Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress
+Spaceship Gaming Enthusiast+
Live near Halifax, NS? Ask me about our group, the Ordo Haligonias! |
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2015/08/03 16:53:33
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Stoic Grail Knight
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No, probably not. AOS seemed to strike on a number of the concerns players had while somehow magically missing the fix and going all the way back to the extreme end of things.
- The rules cost went away, that's absolutely great and has made it easy for people with old fantasy collections to come check the game out. But the new rules seemed to have ditched any of the nuances of the old game (I guess in a "you get what you pay for" sort of way?") and games just turn into large scrums in the middle which slug out over many turns. I think with 40k, the problem would be even more pronounced.
- People's concerns over the GW games being unbalanced were...ahem, "resolved" in the most extreme way possible. By getting rid of points, GW effectively killed the "game" aspect of the experience. Still enjoyable to people who also enjoy entertaining questions like "who would win in a fight...", but utterly destructive to pick-up games and anything that would possibly yield structure to the experience.
- Opening up the fantasy world in a way similar to 40k, with many possibilities for army backgrounds, but at the cost of completely liquidating the background that came before. I think this could have been done in a much smaller scale personally(worldwide earthquakes, chaos wrecking the structure of the world, sigmarines coming to prevent its total destruction). Needless to say, it upset some goodly amount of people. It doesn't really have to be done with 40k, so I would be surprised if any lore were changed with a new age of 40k. Although, with 40k lore in the age of "Try-hard" levels of grimness, it might be something really unenjoyable.
I think a combination of these sorts of changes to 40k would result in a game I would not have any interest in. Honestly, it seems like the fate of the game's rules becoming more like AOS is a strong possibility, so I'm grappling with whether I should round out my last two 40k armies, or just reduce them to kill teams in terms of space and have them decorating a shelf with all of the other niche games.
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2015/08/06 22:35:59
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Nope. AoS sucks. I don't play either form of warhammer to play that kind of disorganized, ill-thought out crap. And that in spite of me being okay iwth current edition of 40k.
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2015/08/06 22:42:04
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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carldooley wrote:I play tau. As fast as they seem to advance in the fluff, either I'd have to toss my whole army and start again from scratch or rage as my faction got squatted.
With that said, they have to advance the timeline somehow, as there are timelines in the codecii that have advanced to 999M42
I hate to be a grammar nazi, but...*codices*
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2015/08/06 23:02:18
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Nope!
I would remain in 7ed and play for fun, as I do now.
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2015/08/06 23:22:03
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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I might rage for a bit, but I'd give it a go. I like WAoS. It's not bogged down with a ton of rules.
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2015/08/06 23:31:42
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Lord of the Fleet
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You mean the game that has at least one special rule or more for every unit that all do different things, that have rules that interact with other units, that then have rules based on nearby terrain, on top of the rules for the realm you're fighting in?
For the simplicity of the core of the game, there's a whole lot of bloat with regards to the units and how they operate.
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Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress
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2015/08/07 06:06:27
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Blacksails wrote:You mean the game that has at least one special rule or more for every unit that all do different things, that have rules that interact with other units, that then have rules based on nearby terrain, on top of the rules for the realm you're fighting in?
For the simplicity of the core of the game, there's a whole lot of bloat with regards to the units and how they operate.
I agree but if I had a choice between 7th edition 40k and AoS, I would choose 7th. Letting the pendulum swing an equal distance the other way, risks an equal level of dislike due to oversimplification.
If 40k were trimmed to something similar to Bolt Action, then the 40k franchise would really catch on again imo.
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Age of Sigmar - It's sorta like a clogged toilet, where the muck crests over the rim and onto the floor. Somehow 'ground marines' were created from this...
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2015/08/14 19:21:38
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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AoS just isn't the same type of game that got me into the hobby, it's essentially a much dumbed down childrens game and i see no reason to play it
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2015/08/14 21:25:50
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Focused Fire Warrior
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We do have to understand that downgrading from 40K to AoS removes words like 'advanced' and 'challenge' from the equation. For us, 'experienced' players that hurts. However, for newcomers into the hobby, and people who would like to 'try before buy', AoS can be a good way. They will get a basic familiarity, maybe even comprehend the size of the hobby (terrain, army, modeling, painting etc.) and the hopefully upgrade to 40K.
As I said in my previous post, I will not enter "Age of Emperor", but I don't mind lurking the newcomers thru AoS and then revealing the 40K universe!
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2015/08/14 22:30:52
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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That would be great as long as the original game sticks around.
Shame that's now what happened with Fantasy Battle.
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Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo - ???? - Input wanted! |
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2015/08/15 22:16:04
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Just noticed that FW is referring to 40k as "Age of Darkness".
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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2015/08/15 22:35:27
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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Wait, is this implying they're gonna do this?!
NO, I DON'T WANT MY TIME AND MONEY WASTED!
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Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo - ???? - Input wanted! |
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2015/08/15 22:41:37
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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CrashGordon94 wrote:
Wait, is this implying they're gonna do this?!
NO, I DON'T WANT MY TIME AND MONEY WASTED!
No, no no no no no NO NO NOOOOO!!!!!
quick get behind the gunline, they cant hurt us there!!
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2015/08/16 00:30:11
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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I thought that was 30k?
HH armies use the 'Age of Darkness force organisation chart' etc.
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2015/08/16 04:21:05
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Ashiraya wrote:
I thought that was 30k?
HH armies use the 'Age of Darkness force organisation chart' etc.
It is, just wanted to see if a panic started. /wink
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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2015/08/16 04:23:40
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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You cheeky bugger
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2015/08/16 04:30:37
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Fixture of Dakka
West Michigan, deep in Whitebread, USA
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I kinda wonder if they might go the way of AoS with the rumored 30K game, while still keeping 40K how it is.
Although I would be happy to try more streamlined rules (and actual balancing mechanisms) if the fluff was left the hell alone.
Left...the...Hell...Alone, I say.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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2015/08/16 04:30:57
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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I'd give it a shot, especially if it did what AoS did with making free PDFs available. If it's good, hey, new rules to play and tinker with. If not, there's a lot of other options to try.
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2015/08/16 11:49:21
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo - ???? - Input wanted! |
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2015/08/16 12:07:15
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Crushing Clawed Fiend
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I voted no.
I love AoS, but I feel games need a guideline and complexity to be completely immersive. That's what draws me to 40k. So many different options for units, points value, etc.
If GW did this, I'm sure they would lose at the very least, 50% of profit.
GW, if you're reading this, please don't do this to 40k.
Haha.
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It'd be a shame to get blood all over my nice new outfit...
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2015/08/16 12:10:04
Subject: Warhammer 40,000: Age of The Emperor. Would you play?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'd stick with 7th Ed or just switch over to Firestorm Armada.
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