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I love the arachnid queen, and just have one minor thing. If it is supposed to be a chainsword, you are missing a couple of teeth at the top to show the belt going back into the blade. If it is just a serrated blade, then great job. I think I will pick up one of those when they come out. To get around the head could you make a gemeric manidble kit that fits onto the standard guardian heads?

I think you should make another news thread for CHS because this one has way too many pages of IP arguments.

Nick, are the IG style weapons/equipment going to be available soon (hopefully at the same time as the not-guardwomen)? (I've a couple of projects needing
Shotguns, Autoguns (need lots of these!) and Hellguns.)

As another idea for the future, some IG style arms without guns attached (like the Catachan ones) would be very useful so swapping in other weapons, also not having the huge shoulder pads would be good too - again I've a few projects that could benefit from these.

poipo32 wrote:I think you should make another news thread for CHS because this one has way too many pages of IP arguments.

LOL
Any new thread would just do the same, sadly.

Eric

MagickalMemories wrote:

poipo32 wrote:I think you should make another news thread for CHS because this one has way too many pages of IP arguments.

LOL
Any new thread would just do the same, sadly.
Eric

As said

I find today's LICD comic appropriate, all things considered.



Eric

Chapterhouse wrote:Besides, like you said a head swap is a pretty easy conversion.

The problem is, where am I going to get an extra scorpion head?

...way too many pages of IP arguements.

But fundamentally it's not about IP infringement! There are plenty of companies which infringe GW's IP in some way or other, but do it in such a way that they are not stirring the hornets' nest.

I've posted several times to make this point and Nick steadfastly ignores it every time.

I admit that the CHS stuff I've seen (the rhino conversion kit) was awful quality, and I hope that this has improved for the sake of anyone who's bought one. I admit that I think the 'dragon' head doors and shoulder pads are horrible. But these are my personal opinions of CHS's products and not why I'm annoyed at them.

I'm annoyed at them because they have consistently come across as arrogant, condescending and thoughtless. I can understand why Nick just wants to be open about the products he makes and the target market he makes them for, but it's also blatantly obvious that his designs are "very heavily inspired" by GW's stuff. Whether GW can prove in court that this is IP infringement we'll have to wait and see (although common sense says "well duh!").

However, I firmly believe that the fight that Nick has provoked with GW was unnecessary and could have unpleasant repercussions to the rest of the community. In another thread Nick expressed surprise that a GW store banned all non-GW products - surely this is a direct consequence of his actions (and he was warned this could happen) and yet he says he's surprised?!

I wouldn't buy CHS's stuff because I don't think it's very good, but I do have other aftermarket stuff and I play regularly at a GW store. I don't want to lose my option to play there just because Nick wanted to prove an unnecessary point.

Having been repeatedly warned by the community that he was sailing too close to the wind with his designs and product descriptions, Nick chose to insult the people trying to help him and ignore their concerns. This is why I find it hard to stomach all the CHS apologists saying that Nick is the underdog, because he brought this on himself for no legitimate reason ...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Ilmarinen wrote:...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Like GW no longer releasing rules that don't have models the way they murdered all the Blood Bowl special characters rules and removed them from the game. Not sure how well a 'doom of Malanti' stand-in model will do on the already small niche market if there are no rules for him... and if GW waits for an official model before releasing rules then I am not sure how profitable the effort is especially if the GW model kicks mad ass. If GW makes it a habit of withholding rules to limit people from infringing, it harms the game and the community. We will see how future codexes are when they are released or if they make a shift back to limited codexes with chapter-approved articles for new releases.

But I guess one market which will always exist is the 'take a model and give it bewbs' market. But I play Orks and my models are based on a bewb-free model society...

Ilmarinen wrote:

...way too many pages of IP arguements.

But fundamentally it's not about IP infringement! There are plenty of companies which infringe GW's IP in some way or other, but do it in such a way that they are not stirring the hornets' nest.

I've posted several times to make this point and Nick steadfastly ignores it every time.

So Chapterhouse is currently in a legal matter with GW over IP stuff and your upset that they wont reply to your comments on it? I like the idea of blaming chapterhouse for GW not letting you play in there stores with 3rd party stuff...umm GW is a business afterall...they are here to make money...not to let you build cool armies. GW has a board of directors to answer to and I can promise you that board is more concerned with how much money GW is making then they are with how cool and customized your army is. Does GW want people coming into there stores and finding out about cool non GW parts that GW doesn't sell?

ironicsilence wrote:

So Chapterhouse is currently in a legal matter with GW over IP stuff and your upset that they wont reply to your comments on it? I like the idea of blaming chapterhouse for GW not letting you play in there stores with 3rd party stuff...umm GW is a business afterall...they are here to make money...not to let you build cool armies. GW has a board of directors to answer to and I can promise you that board is more concerned with how much money GW is making then they are with how cool and customized your army is. Does GW want people coming into there stores and finding out about cool non GW parts that GW doesn't sell?

Let me clarify - I have commented to this effect from before CHS was involved in legal action with GW and Nick doesn't seem to want to admit that his actions could have negative effects on other people or that he has treated gamers with contempt. It's interesting that CHS seem to be quite happy to continue commenting on other aspects though (including the issue of IP infringement itself, which is far more relevant to the court case than whether or not Nick has been an arrogant git to the gaming community).

As people have already explained, GW has always had concerns about 3rd party bits and sometimes they have taken a hard line against letting them into their stores (which is entirely their right). What I blame CHS for is poking a sleeping bear and then acting all innocent (and playing the victim) when it gets angry. GW has been quite happy to let things quietly continue for quite some time (including ignoring various 3rd party bits on armies in stores) but CHS have now made the issue a high priority again, which means that GW have had to take a harder line. I don't see how this is to anyone's benefit.

To me, this comes down to Nick wanting to prove a point, that didn't need to be made, and to hell with anyone else.

However, I firmly believe that the fight that Nick has provoked with GW was unnecessary and could have unpleasant repercussions to the rest of the community. In another thread Nick expressed surprise that a GW store banned all non-GW products - surely this is a direct consequence of his actions (and he was warned this could happen) and yet he says he's surprised?!

Let me get this straight. You are claiming Nick of the tiny chapterhouse is solemnly responsible for a gigant like GW shutting out every single non-GW piece of a model/army in their stores?
Guess it should be taken as a big compliment, that or the tin foil hat is wrapped to tight.

Having been repeatedly warned by the community that he was sailing too close to the wind with his designs and product descriptions, Nick chose to insult the people trying to help him and ignore their concerns. This is why I find it hard to stomach all the CHS apologists saying that Nick is the underdog, because he brought this on himself for no legitimate reason ...and the consequences could have repercussions for all of us.

Being insulting towards obvious hecklers is bad? Hey can I stalk your threads and be a constant gakk towards you and then whine that you are insulting me when you get enough of me and hit back?

What, was bnc to boring all of a sudden?

I wear a tinfoil hat now. Tinfoil hats are cool!

I didn't start out disliking CHS, did I? Originally I was supportive of your intention to make Salamander shoulder pads, when we were part of the very small band of Salamander enthusiasts on BnC and the Sals weren't getting any love from GW.

It was how the CHS business model developed, along with the nasty attitude that went with it, that I took exception to. My early comments were not nearly so harsh, because I was trying to help, but that was thrown back in my (and many others) face(s).

Well, I've said my piece. My accusation has yet again gone unanswered (the 'why did you pick this fight? didn't you think it might cause problems for other people? couldn't you just have been a bit more subtle?!' thing) so I'm going to stop posting on this.

Out of interest, how are your Salamanders coming along Pyriel?

Please direct all conversation about the morality/legality of ChapterHouse's decision to make whole Eldar models to this thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/366676.page

Any further discussion of that here will be considered off-topic and generate suspensions.

This thread is for talking about the CHS Eldar models themselves: whether you like the sculpts or not, what other Eldar sculpts you would like to see CHS produce, etc.

Thanks.

Coming out this month, we have the Rapid Response Wheeled kit for the Imperial Guard Chimera. Consist of 2 side hulls, 6 wheels and Front Heavy "bumper":

Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Manchu wrote:Please direct all conversation about the morality/legality of ChapterHouse's decision to make whole Eldar models to this thread:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/366676.page

Any further discussion of that here will be considered off-topic and generate suspensions.

This thread is for talking about the CHS Eldar models themselves: whether you like the sculpts or not, what other Eldar sculpts you would like to see CHS produce, etc.

Thanks.

Thank you!!!

Chapterhouse wrote:Coming out this month, we have the Rapid Response Wheeled kit for the Imperial Guard Chimera. Consist of 2 side hulls, 6 wheels and Front Heavy "bumper":

Looks awesome. If I do a small arbites force I was considering, I think I'll pick a few of these up.


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Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

I think that was the way it was glued, as the axels look to be aligned.

Redbeard wrote:Is it me, or does it look unbalanced? The front wheel seems to be closer to the hull than the rear ones.

Thank you for saying it first, confirming it's not just me thinking this.

I don't know what it is about it but there's just something that seems unbalanced aside from the front wheel.

The front wheel does look low but cool now I can build motorized units.

It's not just you... but I suspect that it's just the parts stuck together and not truly assembled.
Personally, the side hulls don't really work for me. I like the actual tires very much, though.
It's about time someone created one of these kits.

Any intention of selling those tires separately? I'd think they might make for interesting Battlewagon or Trukk conversions.


Eric

Hey! There we go... starting to get into the realm of my 'space-nuns' with arbite-ish upgrades! (I'm waiting on your 'space-nun' conversions! ) Looking good there CH!

Come to think of it, that's what it is.

The tires are offputting the whole model.
The tires are sized for something like a Stryker or Piranha APC. Those both have much sleeker hulls and a larger ground clearance.

The Chimera hull, even with the side hull mods, just doesn't have the ground clearance to look right for a wheeled vehicle.

I like the look of it. If I didn't already have 8 chimeras, I'd have to get a few of those.

Interesting.... can we have a front shot please .

First thing from CH that i might actually have to get, glad i havent assebled my 6 chimeras yet.


Questions for Chapterhouse though.

Any chance of alt chimera turrets coming ? something that looks like a predator style ?

And any idea of a price estiment on the chimera parts ?

Hoping i dont end up with $80 chimeras if i replace tracks and turrets.

I think the tires are an excellent size for this conversion. They look good, too. I don't think there's anything wrong with them, at all.

Eric

The tires themselves are fine.

The hull they're attached to isn't sized properly from the way it looks.

It would be like attaching the lifter arm from FW's Sentinel Powerlifter to a Cadian to make a Servitor.

I dunno... this design suffers from something I see a lot in the ork conversion forums. It looks like the mechanics of the wheels simply wouldn't be functional per the design of the vehicle. The wheels are too big for the clearance of the wheelwells and the design of tank means those Axel's and wheel turning areas would cut into other parts of the model.

Of course when it is a scratch-built ork model where 'it doesn't have to work' those things kinda slide, but for a clean, imperial vehicle that is supposed to look functional, it sticks out to me as a glaring 'this won't work'

I kinda like the wheels and would like a resin solution to avoid using toy tires... and I could see using this as a looted trukk design but the wheels don't fit that model. They need to be a bit smaller for me.

Too bad you couldn't go the extra mile and design a 'middle' area that was unique and then you could have had your own product that doesn't require a GW kit as you have to scrap most the chimera kit to use these upgrades. You could have had a series of original stand-in models that could be your own product. By time you alter the outside of the tank that far, your customers have already decided to avoid official GW events with them anyways so a totally unique kit might have been a better solution overall.

I hope the tires are sold on there own, I know a lot of my friends play orks and have a hard time finding wheels