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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 20:33:24
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I've been working on this for just under a year and so far so good, the idea is to do Models for all 21 Primarchs including the two missing ones. My great white hope being that at the end not only will I have a great collection, but also enough practice in, to attempt the Emperor.
Please remember these are all (work in prigress) 's and as always C&C is welcomed.
Also I should say that I'm basing these conversions on the HH series and that's why Angron isn't wearing his legion's colors, but at the same time, I think I'm going to rebuild this model.
sorry the pics aren't better.
Sanguinius - I still need to do some touch up's on his face, but most of this one is done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 20:37:06
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Angron - Although I'm happy with this conversion, no one seems to recognize him as the Primarch of the World Eaters, so I think I'll rebuild this one and simply paint him with his White and Blue colors.
but in the meantime here's the one I have, I used his Red angle theme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 20:40:31
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Roboute Guilliman - this one is also more or less done, i have to redo the script and repaint the face, but he's more or less there, and he was also the easiest so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 20:43:34
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Rogal Dorn - This model is my third attempt (at building Dorn) and only half way painted, but I'm pretty happy with it so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 20:46:30
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mortarion - I love it when people ask if he's pre or post Hersey cause Mortarion has always been dirty. This one took a lot of time to put together right but I'm happy with it, and it's pretty much done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 20:50:41
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Leman Russ - This one is the only one I consider completely done. The one big liberty I took with this model was adding the beard, no matter how much I've looked, there's no mention of Russ having one, but since they've been pushing the Space Vikings theme with the Space Wolves for so long, I didn't think anyone would mind, and so far I haven't had any serious complaints. This is also my favor one so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 20:54:00
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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again sorry about the pics, they are in fact crappy, but I will post some new ones when I get a chance.
stat tuned for more demi gods to come.
Magnus the Red and Lorgar are next on my list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 21:05:00
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I actually like the Angron model the best, though I think of him as shorter and squatter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 21:07:55
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Lord of the Fleet
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The Rogal Dorn needs a lot of work. Why does he have an ammo feed sprouting from his torso? Sorry to sound harsh but I also suggest you redo Robute as it just looks like a badly-painted Calgar with bits jumbled on. You should also work on the capes, as they still look too "GS blobby" and not like capes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 21:13:06
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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i think your conversions look way too busy.
i think the main problem is that there are artworks from the primarchs and yours look very different.
btw,leman russ didnt use an axe
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/01 21:21:18
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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better pics, might help but C&C accepted,
again Dorn is still being painted, and the ammo belt will eventually be links of amour with script, but yes, that is what it looks like now.
as For Russ's axe, you're right there, but I knew I'd be giving swords and Spears to the other Primarchs, so I went with an Axe for Russ.
they can only get better, or so I hope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 03:01:05
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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HamHamLunchbox wrote:i think your conversions look way too busy.
i think the main problem is that there are artworks from the primarchs and yours look very different.
btw,leman russ didnt use an axe
Y'know I see stuff like this on every primarch thread. Frankly I figure there's no point in being a primarch is you can't have a whole closet full of master-crafted weapons to choose from. We should feel free to give them anything that fits.
On the whole it's a fun ambitious project. These aren't the best primarchs I've seen but hey, my Emp and Horus scored like 2s and 3s so who am I to talk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 03:07:10
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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But your emp and horus are good conversions, it's the paintjob that is errrm... laking?
Some of the primarchs here look nothing like their artwork, I still like mortarion except for that oversize combi weapon barrel.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/08/02 03:08:46
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 03:09:51
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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I think they look pretty good, but Sanguinius has to be blonde, no exceptions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 03:13:04
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Newbie Black Templar Neophyte
Des Moines Washington
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Great stuff...but Sanguinius had blonde hair....sorry to break it to you :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 04:24:30
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Sanguinius needs blond hair. Also I'd make his wings a bit larger and also make them feathered/natural looking as opposed to mechanical.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 12:19:01
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I thought he was blond too, and the first version I did had blond hair but in the HH novel Horus Rising, it states that he in fact had black or at least dark hair.
As for the wings I've seen other conversions of him that used really large wings, which technically you would need to get something the size of a Primarch off the ground, but I just didn't like the look of them, so I used the wings from one of the new BA characters.
here's an older pic that I took when I finished Russ, to show the size comparison of my Primarchs next to smaller models, at least I got the size right, or so I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 14:58:19
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Caffran9 wrote:Sanguinius needs blond hair.
Actually, he doesn't!
I *love* it when people model and paint up Primarchs!
I enjoy seeing people's interpretations of what THEY want to see.
Of course, I'm eagerly awaiting your Alpharius and Corax!
Will you be equipping Corax with as seen in RAVEN'S FLIGHT?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 15:26:56
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm planning on doing both Alpharius and Omegon at the same time and as for corax, I didn't know he had a whip although I did know about the heavy Bolter. I was going to model him with a pair of Powerclaws, but the whip and bolter would be more interesting.
and on that note, any info anyone wants to add about what they think the Primarchs should look like, I'll take into account when I get to those undone Primarchs.
Lorgar is next on my list.
cheers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 15:42:28
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
OH-I Wanna get out of here
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Not really what he should look like, but Johnson needs a HUGE EFFING SWORD!!!!!!!
Like Could Strife obnoxious, talkin massive beast of a thing.
And then a cypher model that cant move it around
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 20:57:28
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Loving them. I love seeing projects like this. For the record, I also love your NG Angry Marines. My only gripe, as a huge Space Wolf fanatic, is that Russ should have the Spear of Russ if it's meant to be pre-heresy. After he drove off Magnus, he laid it on the planet Garm at the tomb of Garm, but it's all he used before that.
Like KK said though, they're your models. It's damn ambitious and good for you! Gives me courage to maybe someday start working on my little modeling dream.
edit: I especially like your Mortarian, with his plague/smog censors. I've been mentally picking out all the bits that went into that one. New fireprism bit.... I hope you have a nightspinner built.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/02 22:58:01
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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thanks,
it may not seem so, but I put a lot of thought into these guys, what they should look like, what weapons they should have, their amour, their gear and so on.
When it came to the spear of Russ, I had just finished reading the space wolf omnibus and in one of the three books one of the members of the 13 company mentions how Russ never really cared for the spear and how he was losing it all the time and that the only reason he kept it was because the Emperor had given it to him. Plus they say that he once tried to spear the moon and it took his captains three days to find the spear after he launched it off the highest peak of the fang.
Then there's his frost blade which would have been interesting to build but when you take into account that this project includes (or will ) all of the 21 Primarchs I wanted Russ to have a weapon that stood out from the rest and if anyone could pull off a giant Axe, I thought it was him.
And again i understand that not everyone will see these conversions in the same light that I do, but trust me when I say I'm not just throwing them together, some I won't even attempt until I have the right bitz, and others will be rebuilt several times before I'm happy. But regardless, when ever I take these guys to my local game stores, everyone knows who they are without asking, and I have that at least.
no matter how hard I try I can't stop loving the Primarchs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0007/08/12 18:16:54
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Fair enough, TB. You've clearly thought it out and I certainly can't fault your logic.
Like I said, they're your models and you've clearly put a lot of effort into them. Personally, I can't wait to see your Alpharius/Omegon conversion. And Ferrus Manus... Don't think I've ever seen a good Ferrus model...
Why do the Iron Hands get no love? They're the only one of the founding legions that don't have an individual codex or a special character.
One tiny criticism: in the future, try to use a sculpting tool (clay shapers are best) and smooth the thumbprints our of your capes. They're barely noticeably, but are there if you look.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 07:10:04
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Fixture of Dakka
drinking ale on the ground like russ intended
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There are both frost axes and swords and russ hated the spear he only used it during special occasions and when the big e was about
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 07:31:33
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Freaky Flayed One
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I'm loving this so far, can't wait to see them all gathered together, and yes, some better quality photos would be nice
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Just a man, standing in front of a paint pot, trying to remeber if I rinsed boltgun metal in it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 09:06:00
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Fresh-Faced New User
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What head did you use for sang? I'm looking into making one for myself using just the sang guard and sanguinior but all the head look too big and fat. Yours is nice and thin, which I like. Also for bulking him up at the hips I'm guessing it has just a bit of green stuff and that loin cloth to make him look wider?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 09:41:52
Subject: Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
Malta
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You have good concepts mate, as for your choice of armament you shouldnt worry too much, as each Primarch has an arsenal no doubt, as with the items carried in novels/artwork they could simply be the favoured items used at the time. If I could critique one thing is that over ornamentation makes a model look busy and not attractive - simplicity in a model makes it even more eye catching if painted well - As for the capes I would suggest looking at some cape making tutorials or using already caped models or even not using them altogether - Most capes make the primarchs look like Power armoured supermen. Just my POV anyway
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In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 10:04:56
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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I really like the spear you've used on Sanguinius for the spear of Telesto, looks similar to what I have in my head...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 12:52:39
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Methinks a lesson in proportions may be needed. I'm never a fan of the Peter-Crouch-on-a-torture-rack "Truescale" SM's and these confirm it for me.
Take a look at Angron's legs for example. I really cannot see where the torso ends and the legs begin. One or the other is too big.
Your sculpting needs to improve too. It appears your ideas outstrip your abilities. I can see fingerprints all over the cloaks and "blobby" bits (for example on Sanguinius) where you've done some kind of animal pelt but not done it all the way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/08/03 13:19:33
Subject: Re:Project 21 (My Primarchs) WIP
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Regular Dakkanaut
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lol,
you're right my capes do need work, But I don't know if I'm willing to tear the models apart to add new ones.
as for Sanguinius's head, it came from the High Elf Mage set.
as for Angron, the proportions are wrong, that's another reason I plan to redo him.
thanks for the C&C like I said I do appreciate the opinion of my fellow hobbyist so keep it coming, and I will take everything into consideration when I go back to work on them.
Oh and as for the Iron hands, I would love to do their Primarch sooner than later, but unlike some of the other Primarchs there's a lot of description for Ferrus Manus and so Far I just don't have the bitz.
some better pics......
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