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Exactly what it says on the tin !
I've noticed a recent increase in the recent numbers of posts about it, and as someone who lives in a very remote area with very little offer for terrain and gaming supplies, this is very welcome.
Since the posts are a bit all over the place though, why not centralize them in a single thread ?
Here are the ones I've found on Dakka :
http://www.papermakeit.com/
http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/shop/index.php
http://davesgames.net/
... and one I found by looking for paper terrain :
http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/

If you like 1/144th anime/SF styled terrain, these are freebies :
http://www.dp9.com/index.php?option=com_jotloader&view=categories&cid=21&Itemid=165

Good stuff!

Always looking for sources for sci-fi terrain as one of my addictions, INFINITY, requires a LOT of terrain in order to make for a fun game!

I use patterns from Dave's Games quite a bit and have been very happy with the result.

Attached are pics of some of the pieces we use in our gaming group.

Also found an old drop pod pattern for paper and made a handful of those (so that our SM players would stop using spray-painted cups)

Nice. Do you have a link for those drop pod plans? I could use a handful of those myself.

Those paper ruins look pretty good and the drop pods are a good start.

awsome

daedalus wrote:Nice. Do you have a link for those drop pod plans? I could use a handful of those myself.

Google "Scratch Built Space Marine Drop Pod That Looks Good", there's some pics and a link to a French PDF

Speaking of Infinity, WWG just released a sci-fi complex thingy that might fit :
http://www.worldworksgames.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=324

How does this work? I assume you print on card and then fold to shape am I right?

I built a whole city out of cardboard once. We used it for one game.

Such a shame.

I love paper terrain it amazes me how awesome a piece of terrain is then you find out it's just paper!

I mostly made mine from Worldworks, Gamesworkshop and sometimes if I'm lucky to find them I get a couple of old old Warzone paper buildings like the cathedral and the imperial bridgehead

I have everything printed in Color at Fed-Ex Kinkos onto Card-stock. If you buy a ream of Card-stock yourself it becomes much cheaper.

Cut out all the pieces
Score along lines before folding
Glue with Elmers or Interior Wood glue
Mount onto some sort of base (optional)

Yeah, it's fast and cheap... but it's PAPER. It's going to be picked up, handled, thrown in boxes, etc., and that's before you consider things like changes in humidity, etc.

At least make a cutout of thin plasticard and then applique the paper pattern on or something. The paper will rot and peel, but at least it will be structurally sound.

This looks cool. I've been looking for something like this to make some space corridors and/or industrial towers. Anyone know where I may find some?

All of our Battle Tech terrain is paper.

Here is a crappy camera phone picture:

Fat Dragon Games also just released a sci-fi set. Very nice.

This looks real good. Better than GW terrain at what level I'd probably paint. I'm gonna have to use this. Especially those brick wall ruins. thanks for the tips on how to use it, guvnah.

I know people are always concerned with the durability of paper anything, but trust me, they can last just as long as regular terrain, if not longer. They don't bust into a dozen pieces when dropped for one thing. There's also a terrain selection here:



Link removed due to virus concerns.
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I have never used any terrain that I didn't make myself. Hills from styrofoam, buildings from card straws, cans, loo-roll, rock clusters from backyard rocks, big mountains and hills from thick styro, forests from backyard foliage (spray with shelac so they dont whither). Sure they're easy to get damaged, but they're free/cheap to replace too.

Making a building out of card and adding some textured paint before giving it a basecoat/drybrush makes for some pretty cool looking walls for a fortress or a ruin. Spraying packing peanuts together melts them into a clump to make a rocky looking mountainish thing. Backyard rocks glued to a base, painted over to look like wargame table rocks (silly I know) all look just as good as some resin set of GW rocks after they get painted.

Oh and Kronk, that battletech board looks awesome. makes me almost want to visit Texas.

guvnah wrote:...Also found an old drop pod pattern for paper and made a handful of those (so that our SM players would stop using spray-painted cups)

Yeesh.

I don't think the paper ones are much of an improvement. In the days when there wasn't a model perhaps, but there is one now.

Examples like these give gamers a poor image.

Paper terrain isn't worth the time, beyond looking really cheap it never lasts, at least get some foam board, if not some wood and plastic. If you're going to take the time and effort to make something anyway at least make something that can be used more than a few times.

I think 'paper' actually means foam card. Well at least it does to me. The point being any surface that is not plastic for walls/armor plate/etc. is called 'paper'. A few layers of cereal boxes glued together have the same thickness too. It's all 'paper' in my vocabulary.

How does it give gamers a bad image? It's just that some people don't like to shell out for GW official cityscapes, and GW official plastic trees. I can't count how many boring cityscape ruins sets I have had to play on. If anything (if done well) it can show us off as being creative, instead of just shelling out money for the 'right' look.

Awesome stuff!

Here is what I would do that might be a little different: I wouldn't glue it all together.

That way, it can be taken down and neatly and safely stored between games. You could also possibly interchange walls from different sets to get different buildings each time.

For stability, I would have a few of the longer walled sections actually put on some kind of base. Even if it is just another small strip of cardboard with sand glued to it to keep the wall standing and weighted down. Then, before each game, I would put the smaller wall sections into place as needed and at will.

This seems like a good opportunity to ask...

Does anyone know of a set of templates for a small Gothic church? I can make something myself if need be, but it would be easier if I could borrow someone else's work. I'm thinking something like this, with the buttresses replaced by windows.

I made the bunker that came in white dwarf about 10-15 years ago.

I was pretty pleased with it, but it also made me see that making scenery out of foam board and plasticard isn't much harder (and no bloody tabs to stick!!). Never looked back.

But then again I hadn't seen the Card sets for malifaux until recently and the do look rather good.

Guitardian wrote:How does it give gamers a bad image?

If you are even asking that I'm afraid you might not understand, but I will try.

If you make a paper copy of a model you can't afford it makes gamers look cheap. It's also very childish in appearance. It ruins the cinematic effect a 3d game is suppose to have as well. It also stinks of the worst of gamer behavior as in " I want to play this wicked unit but I'm not going to pay for it". That's very bad taste, understand this is a criticism more of the paper units over the terrain.

Do you think these are cool?



I think they are stupid. Furthermore I wonder where the crowds of GW IP defenders and pretend internet lawyers are when people make stuff like this.



I don't care, but watch what happens in a recasting thread...

Guitardian wrote:It's just that some people don't like to shell out for GW official cityscapes, and GW official plastic trees....shelling out money for the 'right' look.

2 points:

(1) Terrain doesn't have to be 'official' models and armies do.
(2) It's all about shelling out for the right look (for units) I don't want to play against an origami defiler because you don't have $50.

On the paper terrain.

This (wall) looks like junk:



This (complex building) is pretty cool:



The second image is so complex, if you were going to all the trouble to make that, why not make it out of something sturdy?

Augustus wrote:

This (complex building) is pretty cool:



The second image is so complex, if you were going to all the trouble to make that, why not make it out of something sturdy?

First off, cardboard, buildings can -especially when properly based- be quite sturdy. Secondly, the above model is not that complex, it's alot of basic shapes stuck together to good effect. Yet, the effect is quite good and it doesn't take much effort to assemble. That's the cardboard advantage, a good printed cardboard model (there are of course lots of bad ones too) provides a building with color, shading and the appearance of texture with a build time may times less than a from-scratch building, and at a far lower cost than a kit building.

If you aren't into the cardboard thing that's fine, but it should at least be obvious why some folks are.

Augustus wrote:Do you think these are cool?

I think they are stupid.

They are stupid. But there's a difference between a 2d paper cutout and the sort of papercraft vehicles you can make if you take any sort of pride in your army.

Augustus wrote:Furthermore I wonder where the crowds of GW IP defenders and pretend internet lawyers are when people make stuff like this.

I don't care, but watch what happens in a recasting thread...

If you don't care, then don't act like the pretend internet lawyers are an authority worth referring to.

This (complex building) is pretty cool:

The second image is so complex, if you were going to all the trouble to make that, why not make it out of something sturdy?

Because card-backed heavy paper is sufficiently sturdy for our purposes, the difficult work is all in the design, not the construction. This means building twice as many doesn't take anywhere near twice the work.

I wouldn't like to play against cardboard cutout figs unless everyone was doing it too. Kind of like it's no big deal to be underdressed for an occasion if everyone else is underdressed too. Some people just want to learn the game. Heck, 2nd Ed. had a cardboard cutout ork dread in the box. I don't see why it has to become elitist as far as "Nyah nyah you can't afford all the cool models that I can so I can beat your army flat because of your chintzy budget" kind of attitude that Augustus seems to favor.

Sorry Mr. Caesar but some of us have other priorities in life for our money to worry about, not just collecting toys in our budget. That card standup tyranid set looked pretty cool and ingenuitive to me, if anything because it represents what it is supposed to as a game piece. I wouldn't play it because I have my own real figs, but if someone is just trying to learn and doesn't go the short route of buying a prepainted army off of Ebay like all the rich little boys, then I wouldn't have a problem with them fielding that stuff, so long as the height is correct and the base is the right size. It's the difference between a 'game piece' and a 'miniature'.

Guitardian wrote:I wouldn't like to play against cardboard cutout figs unless everyone was doing it too. Kind of like it's no big deal to be underdressed for an occasion if everyone else is underdressed too. Some people just want to learn the game. Heck, 2nd Ed. had a cardboard cutout ork dread in the box. I don't see why it has to become elitist as far as "Nyah nyah you can't afford all the cool models that I can so I can beat your army flat because of your chintzy budget" kind of attitude that Augustus seems to favor.

Sorry Mr. Caesar but some of us have other priorities in life for our money to worry about, not just collecting toys in our budget. That card standup tyranid set looked pretty cool and ingenuitive to me, if anything because it represents what it is supposed to as a game piece. I wouldn't play it because I have my own real figs, but if someone is just trying to learn and doesn't go the short route of buying a prepainted army off of Ebay like all the rich little boys, then I wouldn't have a problem with them fielding that stuff, so long as the height is correct and the base is the right size. It's the difference between a 'game piece' and a 'miniature'.

Here, hear.


I wonder how thats spelled.

I also see the elitists that everyone is currently discussing, and they seem to be real pricks.

Guitardian wrote: Sorry Mr. Caesar but some of us have other priorities in life for our money to worry about, not just collecting toys in our budget. That card standup tyranid set looked pretty cool and ingenuitive to me, if anything because it represents what it is supposed to as a game piece. I wouldn't play it because I have my own real figs, but if someone is just trying to learn and doesn't go the short route of buying a prepainted army off of Ebay like all the rich little boys, then I wouldn't have a problem with them fielding that stuff, so long as the height is correct and the base is the right size. It's the difference between a 'game piece' and a 'miniature'.

The difference is the fact that this is a "hobby". I have no issue with actual papercraft models, but I, personally, draw the lines at making this game, or any miniatures game, really, look like one collected it off of the back of a cereal box. I don't even care if it's painted, as even grey plastic has a feel like there's something going on. a big piece of the whole experience, for me, at least, is playing a game with quality terrain that has some heft to it, if only visually.

It also makes it much easier to get an idea of numbers at a glance, rather than wondering if anything is hiding behind that carnifex-shaped billboard.

All points aside, I think anyone who wants to get involved in this hobby (miniatures wargaming), they should at least take a taste of all the aspects of it, and then decide how much work they want to put into any given part of it. I used to think I sucked at painting, but now that I've actually started gaining some competance, I've actually come to enjoy it thoroughly, as my bright pink khador can attest to.