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When I changed my Avatar the last time I got a PM from Victor von Domm and we started talking about Terry Pratchet's Discworld.

I've recently started reading the books again. After I read Unseen Academics I was really hooked and decided to re-buy all the books I read when I was 12 and am now going through the Watchmen stuff first.

So I thought it might be a nice idea to talk a little about the books and what we like about them. And also, one thing that really surprises me, that Pratchet seems to get better at writing, which is surprising considering his medical condition.

Another fan!

I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

I have tried to get into it but something is blocking me form taking it off the shelves.

Currently The witches are giving me my Pratchett fix, Nanny Ogg and Weatherwax are making me smile on my dreary bus journeys through Birmingham.

I will be re reading the watch series soon, oh yes. My favourites of all Pratchetts creations I love the portrayal of the rag tag force and their evolution from being less than nothing to actually doing something. I really enjoy the exchanges between Vimes and the Patrician Nobby Nobbs and Fred Colon are nothing short of genius either. Nobbys life is ...fascinating.

I think I have all but the newest ones. Also have a couple of the companion books as well.

Every so often I will re-read one (or several). I think the world has changed so much since the earlier books - it is a lot more structured now than it was and so has, perhaps, lost some of its charm, even if the newer books are more polished.

Personally I like Monstrous Regiment the most, followed by the Night Watch books.

Another 'Watch' fan here.

I've read Feet Of Clay like, 10 times.

I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

There are some great scenes in the series. Some of my favorites:

The patrician is imprisoned, vimes gets thrown in with him, and Vimes notices the interesting fact about the door.
Vimes goes off to Underwald, Carrot follows along, leaving Colon in charge, and he ends up creating the lowest crime rate ever in Ankh-Morpork.
Granny Weatherwax heroicly forcing the energy of the transformation into an anvil, and Hodgesaargh ruining the dramatic look by heating a kettle on it.
Cohen the barbarian explaining why they're not worried about a handfull of old men facing half a dozen armies, especially combined with...
Cohen the barbarian and his cronies realizing they have no chance at all against carrot because they outnumber him, especially when they establish that his sword is completely non-magical.

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

I'm thinking Sean Bean as Vimes.

'One does not simply walk into Morpork!'

'The very air you breathe is a poisonous fume...that and Dibblers sausages'

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

Try and find the BBC series about Pratchett living with Alzhiemers his aide does shed load of stuff for him.

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

I didn't dislike "Mort" but it wasn't my favorite book of his either, not by a long shot.

I've been reading most of the discworld books in French and in English.

It's hard to tell which one is my favorite, so many of them are great books...but those involving the librarian are the best!

Hyenajoe wrote:I've been reading most of the discworld books in French and in English.

It's hard to tell which one is my favorite, so many of them are great books...but those involving the librarian are the best!

Ook!



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Ma55ter_fett wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:

Mr. Burning wrote:I know Sky (on UK TV) do a good job with the Pratchett works but I would love to see a Watch film or mini series.

Viimes from no hope drunk to kick ass commander (but still plagued by the campaign for equal heights) would be ace.

From the 3 movies I've only seen Colors of Magic. I started with Hogfather, but never got around to finish it. Paul Kidby, the guy who's doing most of the Discworld art these days, including my current Avatar, always draws Vimes a bit like Clint Eastwood. Too bad he's to old to really get into the character at this point.

And Sean Bean can't play Vimes. He doesn't die.

Mr. Burning wrote:I really struggled with Unseen Academicals, maybe it was the subject or whatever but it is the first Prachett book that I haven't completed and I got it for Christmas last year! I was thinking that maybe because of his condition I don't like it, maybe something has changed?

Funny thing: I hate soccer/football and everything related to it but I just loved Unseen Academics.

I'm really not sure what to think about Pratchet's state of health though. He must have someone helping him with the writing, I just wish I knew who.

btw. here's an interesting rumor: Apperantly the Disney animation studios are working on Mort.

I didn't dislike "Mort" but it wasn't my favorite book of his either, not by a long shot.

It could be interesting to see what they come up with, Death in my mid is pretty definite (Sky do the look well) hopefully they will treat Kirbys art like new line/jackson did Alan Lee and Ted Naismith (as a set in stone template).

I never liked Josh Kirby's art. I hardly recognize half the characters he draws and I just HATE the fact that draws Rincewind like an old man.

Paul Kidby's art on the other hand is nothing short of brilliant imho. He paints the characters EXACTLY like I always thought they should look.

Big Discworld fan here.

I'm short by one/two books.

And I have to say the watch ones are my favourite ones too. ^.^

Mr. Burning wrote:Try and find the BBC series about Pratchett living with Alzhiemers his aide does shed load of stuff for him.

I know that he can't type himself anymore, I'm just wondering if he has help with the creative process.

Anung Un Rama wrote:I never liked Josh Kirby's art. I hardly recognize half the characters he draws and I just HATE the fact that draws Rincewind like an old man.

Paul Kidby's art on the other hand is nothing short of brilliant imho. He paints the characters EXACTLY like I always thought they should look.

You know, I always get kidby and kirby mixed up.....

Mr. Burning wrote:

Anung Un Rama wrote:I never liked Josh Kirby's art. I hardly recognize half the characters he draws and I just HATE the fact that draws Rincewind like an old man.

Paul Kidby's art on the other hand is nothing short of brilliant imho. He paints the characters EXACTLY like I always thought they should look.

You know, I always get kidby and kirby mixed up.....

This is Josh Kirby's cover from Guards! Guards!


This is Paul Kidby's take on the same book.



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And this is Kirby's Rincewind:


Now compare that with Paul Kidby's Rincewind:

It's a tricky one - I definitely agree that Kidby makes the characters look more like I imagined them, but I grew up with the Kirby cover art, so it'll always have a place in my heart.

Albatross wrote:It's a tricky one - I definitely agree that Kidby makes the characters look more like I imagined them, but I grew up with the Kirby cover art, so it'll always have a place in my heart.

I'm with this dude.

I also grew up with the old art, but I didn't like it back then either

I didn't say I liked it. Just find it nostalgic.

It's not bad but goes overboard with a cartoon/comic style whereas the newer dude is more....real? The only way I can put it.

Pratchett is indeed genius. I'm also a fan of the Night Watch (Guards! Guards! Men at Arms & Feet of Clay would make a great film trilogy), but lets give a shout out to Granny Weatherwax, a witch who out thinks the enemy with logic rather than use magic. Witches Abroad is a favourite as she goes up against her sister to stop a servant girl from marrying a prince. You can't fight a happy ending... until now!

Also a massive Pratchett fan here. Love the Watch but my favourite must be Monstrous Regiment. Such an awesome book.
Also I really hated the old style art and am so glad about the new guy doing it.

I must say with all this bashing on the old art I did like it. I just like the new stuff a bit better. Some of the old art was good.

Hello my dear friends of the fine arts.

i truly feel privileged to be amogst kinred spirits.

to the artworks that portrayed the characters and events on the discworld i have to add that i also grew up with kirbys art and always thought that it looked that way more fantastic.
the new approach of kidby is more grim or better noir looking.
my favorite by far are as shown in anung un ramas avatar as in sam vimes and suzann sto helit



she sends shiver down my spine

my favorite storyline is by far the nightwatch line. vimes and his permanent struggle with his temper and his dark urges. carrot with his naivity and also his straight forwardness.
nobbys character could fill volumes and in certain aspects he is by far one of the greater minds of the discworld.the way he constantly tumbles colens views of stubbornnes and bigotery out of stupidity is very entertaining. also i like the new bunch of angua and detritus. oh there is so much of them...

and as my second favorite character i only can add esmeralda weatherwax. upright to the bone and sometimes able nevertheless to think herself through a corkscrew without herself turning. instead she turns people and peoples worlds around to her whim. tiffany aching is just terrys way of introducing a younger version of herself. always biting back and distinguishing between personal and important. you have to admire the lady (and she is a true lady).

it is a true loss of the literate world if the mind of pratchett will be lost to a stupid illness in the nothingness...

i have seen all his adaption on tv and think they are made good but don´t hit the spots i might have pointed out to be importent. so they were in some point unsatisfying. but that could also be said to many other literature adaptions as well...

as an ending note for now i find it very good to finally talk about my by far dearest atuthor and his mindworld...

thanks again a heap dakka to make that possible.

best regards, vik

Crivens! how on the disc did we get this far and not mention the multiverse's most homisidal travel acssesory? Or Death? or the Nac Mac Feegles, ye ken?

I like Prattchet's death, a wellmeaning enity who harbors a deep fasination in the creatures he "works" with. Also cats.

I've read and owned all of prattchets books, and the films. (the man himself makes an apperance in hogfather i think,) and i've loved them all.

the nac mac feegle, i daren´t go there. but they are the true anarchic element.
"Crivens! I kicked meself in ma ain heid"

Nae King! Nae Quin! Nae laird! Nae master! We willna be fooled again

long time of death for the nac mac feegles!

vik

Speaking of the luggage.

I had an idea to build a big version and use it as a steam tank in my empire army. (or was it to use it as the war alter....?)

VikingScott wrote:Speaking of the luggage.

I had an idea to build a big version and use it as a steam tank in my empire army. (or was it to use it as the war alter....?)

Do you know a Disc World themed army has crossed my mind once or twice, for fantasy.




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Viktor von Domm wrote:
my favorite storyline is by far the nightwatch line. vimes and his permanent struggle with his temper and his dark urges. carrot with his naivity and also his straight forwardness.
nobbys character could fill volumes and in certain aspects he is by far one of the greater minds of the discworld.the way he constantly tumbles colens views of stubbornnes and bigotery out of stupidity is very entertaining. also i like the new bunch of angua and detritus. oh there is so much of them...

Hey Vik, I think you need to take another look at Carrott, Terry has developed him in a fairly attractive way, especially the way other characters act around and view him.

i agree with you on Nobby Nobbs he is quite insightful, when he wants to be.