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So there's this...



and yeah one could kitbash it but why support a crummy model.

There's a lot of great Valkyrie kitbashes in the gallery but anyone want to throw out some commerically-available toys or kits to work from?


Avatar Gunship


I regret not picking 2 or 3 of these up when they were in shops.

Terminator HK toy


I still see these in Toys R Us.

Star Wars Republic Gunship

Star Wars Torrent Fighter

Anyone know how big these are?
The Torrent could really work since it's less famous, I see it with the bottom wing up and then a cargo crate on the bottom like the old Star Ship Trooper transports that were never made.


Other thoughts?


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HOLD EVERYTHING! I have a winner!



http://www.amazon.com/Revell-Republic-Attack-Shuttle-8482/dp/B00439GX32

Now I need to know how big it is assembled!

Uh, it's like the size of a Marauder bomber. Although I do know that Squadron had them up for like $10 per shuttle kit.

Kanluwen wrote:Uh, it's like the size of a Marauder bomber. Although I do know that Squadron had them up for like $10 per shuttle kit.

That's how big?

Scratch that all.

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=RM1870

It looks like it's 1/120th scale. Which well...

Doesn't bode well to conversions.

"Available for sale in US and Canada ONLY"

*gasp* Racists!

You mean Regionists.

Funny fact: the reason why it's restricted to US/Canada only is because of the USPS/UPS Air not liking the fact that the kit comes with plastic glue.

Well, the Terminatir thing looks like Necron obviously.
The Avatar thing is too round for SM, with almost no transport capacity. And I am not aware of any model with the right size.

The Star Wars Starfighter has exactly zero transport capacity.
The attack Shuttle is 20.3 cm long, so a Space marine would have to crawl out.
The Republican Gunship is a fine model that I use as an alternative to the Devilfish, well rounded and sleak design, the exact opposite of 40k Imperial flyers.

Postive examples are rare.
Maybe models for the Alien Dropship, Halo Pelikan dropship (paper model free download http://www.planetstarfreak.de/modeling.php?id=peli ) or Starship Trooper Dropship are a start.
Best fit would be this 1:60 scale cardboard model, but it is large (13.85x12.61x3.94")
http://www.ebblesminiatures.com/shop/ud41_2010.php

The attack Shuttle is 20.3 cm long, so a Space marine would have to crawl out.

Where did you find dimensions for it? I've been looking and looking.

Even if it's too small for 12 marines (frankly so is the GW one) I can still go with my thought of putting a cargo crate under it.

I go for one thing only..... Vulture and/or avatar hawk.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

The attack Shuttle is 20.3 cm long, so a Space marine would have to crawl out.

Where did you find dimensions for it? I've been looking and looking.

On the box in a toy store

Kanluwen wrote:You mean Regionists.

You mean nationalists

Anyways what I'm doing is losing the turret, putting it on a razorback, Using the razorback LCs to go either side of the nose, Losing the vent that hangs over the turret, building a back end out of plasticard, following the shape of the hull, leaving the back panel non-existent. the dread, instead of hanging onto the back, stands in this area.

Kroothawk wrote:

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

The attack Shuttle is 20.3 cm long, so a Space marine would have to crawl out.

Where did you find dimensions for it? I've been looking and looking.

On the box in a toy store

Ah. Now if I could jsut find a shop that acutally had these.

Ok So avatar hawk ?

How about the halo Pelican dropship.

What's wrong with the traditional Valkyrie kitbash?

Yeah, yeah threadcromancy but it's my darn thread and this is topical again especially as most of us have now seen this.



2 things I'm now thinking of:

http://www.amazon.com/Revell-Star-Wars-Imperial-Shuttle/dp/B001GRZM8G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1296058329&sr=8-2



Widely available and with an underslung cargo pod would work. Also just a gorgeous flier.

The other one is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Space-Runabout-Grande-Model/dp/B000MFGPFM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1296058688&sr=1-2



It's a flying box but still looks good, also easier to convert to hide its origins.

Thoughts?

I'll post mine as and when I convert it. It's a normal stormpelican, but with an arcade-style grabber claw holding the dread (in real life magnets) and some marines on rapell lines attached to thier belts firing one-handed.

Most Star Wars thing look too clean for Imperium, more Tau-like. The Star Trek shuttle might work with some heavy conversion. Better is a Starship Trooper Dropship or Aliens Dropship if you find one in an acceptable scale.

Here an obvious alternative by Mythicast http://mythicast.com/ :



Forge World has these, even when they are not correctly equipped and a shame to convert:

I thought one of these, suitably converted...



But no-one does a 1/48 scale model.

Then I found a model of this...



http://www.hlj.com/product/ACD12703

It's a pricey kit.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

2 things I'm now thinking of:

http://www.amazon.com/Revell-Star-Wars-Imperial-Shuttle/dp/B001GRZM8G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1296058329&sr=8-2



Widely available and with an underslung cargo pod would work. Also just a gorgeous flier.

One of the guys in my local store has made a conversion using this model...basically, it looks like the Imperial Shuttle is having its way with an upside-down Rhino (becuase that's what it is!). It is an absolutely HUGE model...I think it something like 16" or 18" long. If he runs his Blood Angels on Friday, I'll try to snap a pic for you; I'm not a big fan of the look, however.

I think the best bet is to try and bash a Valk and the Stormraven together, as you could use the better-proportioned fuselage of the valk, but substitue the more SM-looking components from the Stormraven like the engines, cockpit, and tail.

I think you probably just modify the stormraven model a little bit. Maybe take the tail of, or make the body longer.

sigh...

Kroothawk wrote:Here an obvious alternative by Mythicast http://mythicast.com/ :

that is my favorite alternative to the real thing thus far.

Hmm, I cannot seem to find any products on Mythicast. I click "products", but there is only one thing...

It's because they've briefly frozen sales to do some stuff to the website or something.

Kyoto san , kore ii? ^-^v

So, while I do all kinds of funny things in casual games, what are you gonna do at a tournament when someone tells you, "no, you are not playing that mini."?

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:sigh...

Yes, thank you. Now go away please. People are talking about things that interest them, and we don't want to be interrupted.

Make your own thread to not discuss the Stormchicken if you like.


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Mr Nobody wrote:I think you probably just modify the stormraven model a little bit. Maybe take the tail of, or make the body longer.

That's the easiest thing.

It wouldn't take much work to extend the fusleage with plasticard, it's pretty much square, flat plates anyhow.

I like my giant helicopter idea but the helicopter kit is over £60 to start with.


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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:So, while I do all kinds of funny things in casual games, what are you gonna do at a tournament when someone tells you, "no, you are not playing that mini."?

Presumably before attending you would have checked the rules to see that they allowed conversions and alternative models. So you would say, "Yes I am".

LunaHound wrote:Kyoto san , kore ii? ^-^v

いいよ！　　

誰作った？


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Ruckdog wrote:
I think the best bet is to try and bash a Valk and the Stormraven together, as you could use the better-proportioned fuselage of the valk, but substitue the more SM-looking components from the Stormraven like the engines, cockpit, and tail.

Well if I'm gonna drop $100 I'd just get the Aquilla Lander.