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Currently I am painting my first Salamanders (the Pyroclasts) and I have much fun with them ... therefore I cannot wait to put my hands on their Primarch!

Hmmm... spend pretty much all my money on a Cerastus Castigator, or buy multiple things from different companies...


Decisions, decisions.

I really like the look of the Castrigator, also, double gatling boltcannon is probably the coolest (if perhaps least useful-rule wise) weapon possible for .. well.. anything!

But it will probably not be an issue since the Cerastus-family seems to be inclined towards speed and first strike / close-combat potential (with moderate ranged capacity) where the regular knights goes for a balance of CC and ranged.
I am a bit exited what they will do with the upcomming Warden-chassi as varied heavy-weapons platforms.

I guess I should have already known this, but seeing $91.00 for a Primarch model is still giving me 'sticker shock'...

 STC_LogisEngine wrote:

I am a bit exited what they will do with the upcomming Warden-chassi as varied heavy-weapons platforms.

There will be a Warden-chassis?

Yepp, FW said they had plans to make one once the Cerastus-variants and the knight upgrade kits were finished and a few more things on the Horus Heresy to-do list had been taken care of.
They had not assigned an artist to it yet so it was still just scetches on paper, no mock-ups, but Daren Parrwood would probably be assigned this one since he is doing the Cerastus knights.

I wish they'd make new weapons for the plastic Knight. I think those were rumoured, but it remains to be seen whether they will ever materialise.

 Snrub wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
You obviously never saw Your Highness, then.

No, but after looking it up, I kinda want to see it.

It's just to bad I can't stand Danny McBride and James Franco.

I had no desire to see it, either. I saw it at my sister's place last year and it's surprisingly better than I thought.

Has there been any word on rules for the new knight varaiant?

Nope, but the Cerastus Lancer had a pdf. for 40k-use made avalible on FW's page when it went up for pre-order so we will probably see that happen here too.

Regarding the weapons for knights I don't know, the only thing I have seen were CAD-wip's that later turned out to be for the Cerastus Castrigator (avenger boltcannon and giant flamer).

I just wish they'd the base model + upgrades route with the Lancer and Castigator rather than 2 separate models.

STC_LogisEngine wrote:Yepp, FW said they had plans to make one once the Cerastus-variants and the knight upgrade kits were finished and a few more things on the Horus Heresy to-do list had been taken care of.
They had not assigned an artist to it yet so it was still just scetches on paper, no mock-ups, but Daren Parrwood would probably be assigned this one since he is doing the Cerastus knights.

Crimson wrote:I wish they'd make new weapons for the plastic Knight. I think those were rumoured, but it remains to be seen whether they will ever materialise.

I believe they said in a previous post that the weapon upgrades for the knights would be too heavy to balance the kits and it was scrapped and the cerastus built instead.

Well, to be fair, it more or less is that way since what differs the Lancer and the Castrigator is the weapons, head and the Castrigator has a pair of additional armorpanels added to the shoulderplates.

 Theophony wrote:

I believe they said in a previous post that the weapon upgrades for the knights would be too heavy to balance the kits and it was scrapped and the cerastus built instead.

Really? T_T

And the reasoning seems dubious. The model has a giant base, it is very stable. One resin weapon on each side won't unbalance it.

I'll take their word for it, FW tends not to give bs answers, it might seem simple to do to us but it is probably not base-related, it might be the plastic arm-assembly is not strong enough in some way to handle a big hunk of resin or some other part of the plastic kit that cannot carry the required load in it's unmodified form. FW are quite stingy with that thing, so perhaps they decided that solving the issue was more trouble than it was worth and went with a whole-resin chassi instead.

 Crimson wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

I believe they said in a previous post that the weapon upgrades for the knights would be too heavy to balance the kits and it was scrapped and the cerastus built instead.

Really? T_T

And the reasoning seems dubious. The model has a giant base, it is very stable. One resin weapon on each side won't unbalance it.

Of course not, but you can't charge $280 for one resin weapon.

It seems FW still don't want my money anyway - I'd have bought the Castigator weapons to convert a plastic Knight in a heartbeat, but I guess they'd rather people who're not fans of the Cerastus chassis just didn't buy anything.

EDIT: Yeah I'm still not buying it STC_LogisEngine, the plastic Knight on the HUEG base is extremely stable and, considering how the arms lock in to the chassis, there's no way you could make a resin weapon that would strain the joint or unbalance the model unless it was twice the length of the plastic battlecannon and several times the mass. Hell I'd wager you could cast up one of the FW Cerastus weapons in white metal and you could still attach it to the plastic Knight with no issue.

 Alpharius wrote:
I guess I should have already known this, but seeing $91.00 for a Primarch model is still giving me 'sticker shock'...

I'm guessing it comes with one of thows stupid massive display bases, that the gameing base slots into agien like the others.

Good point.

Since any Primarch I will be purchasing and painting will also be for gaming, and will most likely NEVER be of 'display' quality, I'd love to NOT have to pay for those ridiculous display bases!

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

I believe they said in a previous post that the weapon upgrades for the knights would be too heavy to balance the kits and it was scrapped and the cerastus built instead.

Really? T_T

And the reasoning seems dubious. The model has a giant base, it is very stable. One resin weapon on each side won't unbalance it.

Of course not, but you can't charge $280 for one resin weapon.

It seems FW still don't want my money anyway - I'd have bought the Castigator weapons to convert a plastic Knight in a heartbeat, but I guess they'd rather people who're not fans of the Cerastus chassis just didn't buy anything.

EDIT: Yeah I'm still not buying it STC_LogisEngine, the plastic Knight on the HUEG base is extremely stable and, considering how the arms lock in to the chassis, there's no way you could make a resin weapon that would strain the joint or unbalance the model unless it was twice the length of the plastic battlecannon and several times the mass. Hell I'd wager you could cast up one of the FW Cerastus weapons in white metal and you could still attach it to the plastic Knight with no issue.

Given that FW are still selling Imperial Guard, I do wonder if it's a form of silent protest, showing GW main what they think should have been produced?

This isn't meant to be racist at all, but why is Vulkan black? Like he does not look African American, but his face looks like it has been charred by fire or something. Can someone please help me know what the fluff is behind this?

It's a quirk in his genetics, which was passed on to his Legion. Sort of the opposite of Curze or Corax.

 Commander_Farsight wrote:
This isn't meant to be racist at all, but why is Vulkan black? Like he does not look African American, but his face looks like it has been charred by fire or something. Can someone please help me know what the fluff is behind this?

It is a stupid retcon from few editions ago, which for some bizarre reason changed Salamanders into coal black instead of just normal African black. It's not a good look, it looks like someone forgot to paint the skin, and there's only a basecoat.

I like it, the most scary looking loyalist marines(physically) are probably the most kind hearted.

The fluff is that its one of those genetic anomalies like Sanguinius's wings, or Mangus' s huge size. For the actual function of it, it makes Vulkan and his marines more resistant to radiation and heat like some kinda super melanin.
To get back on topic, that knight look super awesome painted up. I know what I'm dropping hits for for a christmas present.

Allegedly the salamanders were always supposed to be coal-black. It's just that the artists misunderstood the design notes (and/or the designers didn't anticipate that the artists would think BLACK skin meant just black skin)

Look at that 85£ huge monstrosity with its insanely tall, spindly legs. Imagine it barely keeping up with a Termagant. Fail.

from that angle it actually looks awesome, and i didn't like it before...
your attempt at criticism has made me a fan, i'd call that success for FW...
hahahahaha

cheers
jah

Sometimes Josh I truly believe that you think "rex non potest peccare" applies to everything GW does.

I didn't realise it was that small (or the Thanatar was that big, whichever it is)

ImAGeek wrote:
I didn't realise it was that small (or the Thanatar was that big, whichever it is)

I'd say it was the second option......