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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/13 06:46:26
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" - Flyers Complete! - update October 15
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all.
I finally finished my Nurgle Chaos Marine army (found here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/225183.page) and after a couple of months I decided it was time to start the madness again.
While working on the Sons of Pus GW released Apocalypse and with it offered many army deals. I picked up an Imperial Guard company and the one with ten sentinels. The plan was to build a light infantry / scout type Guard army using various doctorines and such. One problem, it took MUCH longer to finish the marines than I originally thought and by the time I was ready to start working on guard a new codex was released. Luckily, the new codex turned out to be more accomodating than the previous one and I was able to build a list that seemed fun and used all the models I had purchased a couple of years ago. I imagine the list will change a bit as a games are played, but the following is a decent start. Just note that when it comes to army building, for me, game play effectiveness is well down the list of why I choose to use a particular unit.
Cadian 713th - "Fire Eyes"
Company Command w/ advisors, flamer (x2), heavy flamer, vox
Infantry Platoon
Command w/ vox, melta, autocannon
Infantry (x2) w/ vox, melta, autocannon
Special Weapons w/ flamer (x3)
Infantry Platoon
Command w/ vox, grenade launcher, missile launcher
Infantry (x2) w/ vox, grenade launcher, missile launcher
Special Weapons w/ flamer (x3)
Infantry Platoon
Command w/ vox, plasma, lascannon
Infantry (x2) w/ vox, plasma, lascannon
Special Weapons w/ flamer (x3)
Veteran w/ vox, melta (x2), autocannon, power fist
Veteran w/ vox, grenade launcher (x2), missile laucher, power fist
Veteran w/ vox, plasma (x2), lascannon, power wepaon
Sentinels (x3) w/ missile launcher
Sentinels (x3) w/ autocannon
Armored Sentinels (x3) w/ lascannon
They are called "Fire Eyes" because they always go into battle wearing goggles, visors, glasses, etc with flame colored lenses (and because the reds and yellows are a nice contrast to the armor).
The rules for putting this army together are fairly simple:
1. Keep the paint job simple. I decided to use camo patterns and washes for a simple but nice looking "table-top" quality army.
2. Use a few minor conversions. Other than using Pig Iron heads for every model there won't be more than a handful of conversions.
3. Don't sweat painting errors. There are going to A LOT of models on the board. A few mistakes will hardly be noticeable.
4. Keep it easy to distinguish units. A circle on each shoulder pad using various colors to separate squads should satisfy this rule.
Well, I have probably forgotten to mention many things but here is the first infantry platoon. I went with a basic urban camo scheme using three colors and two different washes. The "metal" parts and other details are not finished yet.
As always any comments, questions, critiques, etc. are welcome.
Thanks
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This message was edited 22 times. Last update was at 2011/10/15 04:35:53
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/13 07:51:57
Subject: Cadian 713th - "Fire Eyes"
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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not bad ej  but they look more like loyalists actually.. and if you woulld paint the iron parts in iron colour and the hands in a skin colour it would look much much better.. nice helmets btw
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/13 16:38:34
Subject: Cadian 713th - "Fire Eyes"
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Joske De Veteraan wrote:not bad ej  but they look more like loyalists actually.. and if you woulld paint the iron parts in iron colour and the hands in a skin colour it would look much much better.. nice helmets btw
Good. Because they are loyalists! The metal parts haven't been painted yet and they are wearing gloves
The Pig Iron heads make a nice change from the standard and it's easy to do.
Just a bit about the process:
1. I basecoated with gray Army Painter spray color primer. These are great. I strongly recommend these primers.
2. The camo pattern was white, light gray, and black. Black wash on the armor and Pale wash on the cloth areas.
3. Visors are mechrite red, solar orange, bright yellow, and red wash.
4. Bases are P3 armor wash, characin granite, drybrush medium gray. I plan on adding patches of static grass (burnt and light yellow).
Take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 00:18:05
Subject: Re:Cadian 713th - "Fire Eyes"
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Just wanted to add a couple of pics of the full infantry platoon.
Take care.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 00:22:09
Subject: Cadian 713th - "Fire Eyes"
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Dakka Veteran
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the camo looks nice, but right now they are kinda "bleh" because they dont have any details. The visors are top notch, so you shouldn't have a problem executing a nice skin tone and some details on their weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/14 10:03:37
Subject: Cadian 713th - "Fire Eyes"
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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good looking bunch , the visor idea is well executed and original. i say give your men a wash to add some depth , they look very good altogether.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 03:17:52
Subject: Cadian 713th - "Fire Eyes"
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
rryannn wrote:the camo looks nice, but right now they are kinda "bleh" because they dont have any details. The visors are top notch, so you shouldn't have a problem executing a nice skin tone and some details on their weapons.
Yeah, there are still a few key details left to paint, but I want to get the army on the table as soon as possible. This way I can still make changes if needed after reading what people have to say.Thanks for the vote of confidence
neil101 wrote:good looking bunch , the visor idea is well executed and original. i say give your men a wash to add some depth , they look very good altogether.
I was thinking the same thing. I used Vallejo's Pale wash on the cloth parts hoping it would give enough shading but it isn't working as well as I would like. I will try adding some water to a black wash and test it on the back of a few guys.
Here a few pics of the urban Veteran Squad. The only difference between the Vets and the regulars is the Vets use bayonets (none are notched or serrated).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 04:17:59
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Veteran Squad
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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Gotta say I am really liking the look of this army! The urban feel really comes across well and the minimalist paint scheme works. I agree maybe another wash of black to pick out a few more details without losing that effect you have right now. I also like the skin being covered on everyone (with the exception of the vets) It makes the visors really pop!
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To all of the service members, Active Duty, Reservist, National Guard, Retired, Medically Discharged, Veteran, Disabled Veteran, etc, thank you for your service. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:37:58
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Veteran Squad
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Fallen_Veteran wrote:Gotta say I am really liking the look of this army! The urban feel really comes across well and the minimalist paint scheme works. I agree maybe another wash of black to pick out a few more details without losing that effect you have right now. I also like the skin being covered on everyone (with the exception of the vets) It makes the visors really pop!
Thanks. These guys are fighting in tough/hazardous conditions therefore OSHA requires proper personal protective equipment (thought some Vets "forget" to wear it at times).
I used a heavy black wash on the gloves of a few to help with contrast, but don't have any pics of it yet.
I have been thinking about the right shoulder pads and that they need some color to balance with the left shoulder pad. I'm thinking decals with "713" in white or black lettering on backgrounds which match the color of the left shoulder pad. Has anyone had experience with creating decals and such? I don't think hand painting is the way to go. Any ides are appreciated.
Here are scout sentinels with autocannons. The weapons are magnetized and the cupola section removes from the legs. Once again these arel WIP.
Thanks and take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:42:15
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Sentinel Squad
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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i love these guys man,the camo scheme whilst simple is very striking.the pig iron heads are a cool addition too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/15 21:44:33
Subject: Re:Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Sentinel Squad
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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They do need a black wash all over would add a proper level to the model they look a bit flat atm. The hands need doing to easy jobs make the army look real nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/18 21:23:07
Subject: Re:Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Sentinel Squad
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all
I've made some progress on the Urban Infantry Platoon.
1. A layer of watered down black wash was given to the entire squad. IMO, this adds some much needed depth without taking away from the camo look.
2. Black ink washed gloves to add more contrast.
2. Painted gun barrells and such boltgun metal and than layer(s) of black wash as needed.
3. Added static grass (mixed 2 parts burnt to 1 part arid).
Other than adding something to the right shoulder pads there won't be much more work done on these ... at least until all the squads are at this level.
Next up are the urban veterans.
Thanks and take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/20 21:53:30
Subject: Re:Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Feb. 18
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Finished most work on the veteran squad.
Take care.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/22 21:21:41
Subject: Re:Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Feb. 22
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Just a few pics of the updated Scout Sentinels and the army as it stands today.
Take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/22 22:31:48
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Feb. 20
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Leader of the Sept
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The sentinels are looking good, as are the additional infantry dudes. The basing in particular is adding to the whole effect really nicely. Whats up next?
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
51st Dunedinw2;d0;l0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/23 22:11:55
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- Update Feb. 23
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Flinty wrote:The sentinels are looking good, as are the additional infantry dudes. The basing in particular is adding to the whole effect really nicely. Whats up next? 
Thanks.
I feel spending a few extra minutes on basing can have a very positive effect. And to answer your question ....
... more Veterans. This time they are ready for battle in their desert gear. Yes, I said desert. The idea of painting a 120 or so guardsman in urban camo is just ... horrible. I kept the same style of camo, but used different colors. It helps make the project manageable.
Also in the works are movement trays. Having movement trays should help speed up the setting up process.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/23 23:18:32
Subject: Cadian Happy Fun Camo Party Time!
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Leader of the Sept
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The camo is looking really good, but with no accenting colours whatsoever it looks a bit weird  Looking forward to seeing at least some metallics going on there
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
51st Dunedinw2;d0;l0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 22:09:55
Subject: Cadian Happy Fun Camo Party Time!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Flinty wrote:The camo is looking really good, but with no accenting colours whatsoever it looks a bit weird  Looking forward to seeing at least some metallics going on there 
Thanks! I guess this is a case of realism versus painting techniques. Real camo tries to fully obscure wearer, but that doesn't make for the most interesting toy soldier
Here are the desert vets. Still working on movement trays and desert Infantry platoon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 22:12:55
Subject: Cadian Happy Fun Camo Party Time!
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Leader of the Sept
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That looks much better. I agree that it kinda goes agaisnt the point behind camouflage, however I think that there is a good balance that can be struck between the visible and the obscured
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
51st Dunedinw2;d0;l0
Cadre Coronal Afterglow w1;d0;l0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/27 22:21:19
Subject: Cadian Happy Fun Camo Party Time! -- update Feb. 27
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Phanobi
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Totally agree with Flinty about the balance between realism and a good looking army, the silver really helps them to stand out while still being camouflaged. You have a really fantastic army going on here, the use of pig iron helmets really distinguishes them from other IG armies out there.
Cain
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/07 04:19:32
Subject: Cadian Happy Fun Camo Party Time!
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Flinty wrote:That looks much better. I agree that it kinda goes agaisnt the point behind camouflage, however I think that there is a good balance that can be struck between the visible and the obscured
Commander Cain wrote:Totally agree with Flinty about the balance between realism and a good looking army, the silver really helps them to stand out while still being camouflaged. You have a really fantastic army going on here, the use of pig iron helmets really distinguishes them from other IG armies out there.
Thanks!
I was hoping different washes would help with contrast and even the small amount of gunmetal seems to have a significant effect.
Onto the new stuff. The following are pics of the desert infantry squad. The red squad was the first to be painted. Originally the plan was to use a stippling technique to paint the camo colors. However, that turned out to be a complete mess. I must have been doing something wrong because paint seemed to end up everywhere except the target models  . It also went slower than expected and after the first coat of VGC terra I decided to switch to the stripe/patch style.
Basecoat was army painter spray primer - skeleton bone
Camo Pattern - White, VGC Khaki, VGC Terra
Than different washes were used on various sections of each model. VW = vallejo wash, GW = games workshop wash
cloth - VW Sepia
armor - GW Devlan Mud
weapons - GW Sepia (some were black)
masks - VW Umber
Metal - VGC gunmetal, VW wash
Imperial Eagle - VGC ghost gray, VW wash
Bases - P3 armor wash, bonewhite
Normally Vallejo seems to be accurate with their equivilants but the sepia and umber washes were significantly different from GW. In this case it worked out pretty well for me
On to the pics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 01:31:45
Subject: Re:Cadian Happy Fun Camo Party Time! -- update March 6
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
I mentioned movement trays. Wellll, I had some extra plexiglass from this past summer when a rock decided to launch itself from under my lawnmower and go through the window of the back door. I thought it would look pretty neat to have clear bases. I set everything up and started cutting using a jigsaw. One problem, it didn't really cut the plexiglass so much as melt it. What. a. mess. No pictures yet. Onto attempt two.
Work has been continuing on the desert infantry platoon. Desert sentinels are next.
Thanks and take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/20 01:46:11
Subject: Re:Cadian Happy Fun Camo Party Time! -- update March 13
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Work continues (at a quick pace - for me) with the Fire Eyes. Here are pics of the Scout Sentinels. The last one is a pic of one of the few conversions I made for this army. I cut off the barrells of the multilasers and added some tubing. Nothing fancy, but I think it works well eough.
Next up -- Company Command Squad
Thanks and take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/20 12:14:48
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- update March 19
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Man, just found these updates. They look amazing, well done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/20 13:47:33
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- update March 19
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Leader of the Sept
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The sentinel paint jobs are superb! The smokey residue on the infantry missile launchers is also a nice touch
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
51st Dunedinw2;d0;l0
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/20 20:48:23
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- update March 19
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Scrazza wrote:Man, just found these updates. They look amazing, well done.
Thank you
Flinty wrote:The sentinel paint jobs are superb! The smokey residue on the infantry missile launchers is also a nice touch 
Thanks. Actually, those are areas where the gunmetal paint was running a bit thin and the coat of black wash did the rest.
Sometimes accidents produce nice results
Take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/29 01:30:39
Subject: Re:Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- update March 19
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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Hi all,
Here are some pics of the company command squad. I had painted them a bit ago but while taking photos I noticied they need a bit more work. Let me know what you think of my take on a jungle camo pattern. I used a tiger-like pattern over a green basecoat. I like the results for the most part, but something is missing.
The CO has a magnetizied arm to switch between a power weapon and chainsword.
I painted up the advisors except an astropath and a medic model is ready to go, but forgot about the darn tootin' thing when painting the rest of the squad.
Anyway, onto the pics.
Thanks and take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 14:47:39
Subject: Re:Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" -- update March 28
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Dipping With Wood Stain
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HI all,
I have touched up the company command squad but have not had time to take any decent photos of them
Moving on the third camo pattern. Winter is coming to Cadia so the final pattern is winter/snow. I kept the same basic design and just changed the colors.
Winter special weaons are plasmaguns and heavy weapon teams are lascannons.
Here are some pics of the platoon command squad.
Thanks and take care
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 15:25:10
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" - Winter is coming! - update Mary 15
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Leader of the Sept
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The winter theme is an amazingly good effect.
Your snow needs footprints though
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/05/15 16:13:35
Subject: Cadian 713th: "Fire Eyes" - Winter is coming! - update Mary 15
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Cool stuff so far . I like the desert scheme the most , you don't see it to often .
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