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HQ
CCS

Troop
2 platoons with flamers and auto cannons. (PCS and 2 squads)
and a chimera

Then I dont really know where to go from this point. I was thinking
rough riders or a hell hound. Any ideas please.

Dullblade35

at first, how much points do you want to play

from 500 to 1000 to start. Spending as little money as possible in the process

dullblade35 wrote:from 500 to 1000 to start. Spending as little money as possible in the process

that might be a hard thing to do, especially when you play guard.

haha i kno so far iv spend £25 on about 50 men a basalisk (now a chiimera, got an earthshaker cannon still to use.) got creed and kell aswell (bought them all off a mate or off ebay.

Well do not really bother with kell, he is pretty worthless for 85pts. So how do you want to do this, foot list (blob squads backed up by tanks) mech vets (veterans in chimeras SPAMED) ?

Not sure really, I have the bare bones but thats it atm kinda want to get some rough riders in there and vets.

What kind of a list do you want to play?

If you want it to be based around mechvets, then the next thing you should be is like 9 plasma or meltagunners and a couple more chimera. If you want a foot horde, you should get at least 40 more infantry models, a couple of commissars, and either some plasma guns or some power weapon sergeants.

Only after you know what you want the core of your army should be should you start worrying about peripheral, support units.

I'm not sure I really want to play a horde guard its a bit too labour intensive carrying and moving that many, so I kinda wanted to make a specialist, light vehicle army and some heavy tanks in there as well.

Part of me wants to bring some allies into it DH or WH so i have some real heavy infantry. Whats the general view on allies?

To modify what you have I think you can try something like

CCS

PCS (4 flamers, take those from your squads and put here)

2 Infantry Squads, 2 AC, 2 GL (buy a commissar and put here and blob)

1 Veteran Squad, chimera

HS - buy some heavy support you want such as a LRBT

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At this point you can play some more games and get a feeling for what you want. If you want to go all mech, just get some more chimeras and convert the troops to vets. If you like your infantry platoon then add some more troops to it (and power weapons if you want to).

I thought you had to have at basic.
HQ
PCS

Troop option 1
CCS
2 infantry squads

Troop option 2
CCS
2 infantry squads

Am i reading the codex rules wrong?

from the looks of it yeah a little

you've got the PCS and CCS the wrong way round. The CCS is your HQ choice, you then have to take two troop choices. In the Guard codex a troop choice is A platoon, penal legion or vets. If your taking a platoon the minimum you can take is a PCS and two inf squads.

You can take any combination of troop choices eg. penal and penal, penal and vet, platoon and vets ......etc

My bad, edited my post. Of course CCS i HQ

No, you do not have to have infantry platoons in a guard army. You do have to have at least two troops choices, but infantry platoons are not the only units that fulfill this criteria. Veterans and Penal Legionnaires also count as troops.

If you don't want to play a horde army, I'd start with the core of your list looking something like...

CCS, 4x meltaguns

Veterans, 3x plasma guns
- Chimera with turret heavy bolter, hull heavy flamer
Veterans, 3x plasma guns
- Chimera with turret heavy bolter, hull heavy flamer

Just make sure not to glue down the guns on the chimera, as you might want to swap around your weapons options once you get into higher points.

From here, you can do lots of things, depending on what you're looking for, but the above will be a good, solid core for a mechanized list up to 1000 points.

Not to re-ignite an old debate, but I'd point out that most IG players prefer Multi-laser/heavy flamer on their chimeras.

Also, you can add a platoon to a moslty mechanized vet force. If nothing else, the PCS is the best place to get flamers.

dullblade35 wrote:from 500 to 1000 to start. Spending as little money as possible in the process

I am one of the few that's a real proponent of rough riders -- I've always had success with them in 5th edition as well as 3rd, but if you want to spend as little money as possible they are not a good way to go. They are cheap so £/point they are not a good ratio, plus also your options are either ugly Attilan models, awesome but comically expensive Forgeworld Death Riders, or ultra-expensive conversions.

dullblade35 wrote:Part of me wants to bring some allies into it DH or WH so i have some real heavy infantry. Whats the general view on allies?

As of April they will have gone the way of the dodo bird, or so the rumours say. I believe the rumours because the PDF versions of WH and DH codices available on Games Workshop's website have the allies and inducted guard portions redacted.

Other than this, I cannot offer more than others have. My experience with 5th edition is limited.

Im looking at some rough riders as i just love the converion propects. i played a 1000 point battle today with friends using

CCS Creed

Vets in chimera, GL x3 Pw and a plasma pistol on sarg

PCS PP and Power wep

2 infantry squads with AC and GL (1 squad in chimera )

LRBT ( counts as )

Basalisk ( just used turret off the one i bought off a mate)

I think that was it but it worked well against SW and necrons, although necrons didnt seem to want to die.

Hows that look as a list thrown together in 30 mins?

btw my chimera has multi laser and heavy bolter.