GW News & Rumours [40K]: 30k Ahriman, 40k Kharn, Void Shield gen & CSM Black Crusade supplement

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**jah-joshua**

BrookM wrote:
We really need an Argel Tal mini, so we can have those besties on the tabletop together..!

Spoiler:

yes, we do

that is my favorite relationship to read in the HH series...
who ever though that Kharn actually had a friend!!!
great stuff

cheers
jah

**gorgon**

timd wrote:
Yeah, I'm late to the party, but perhaps his dominant hand changed because he became more sinister?

Nicely done.

I'd say that suggesting Kharn has a dominant hand implies that one hand is worse at killing. Which is impossible. Every part of Kharn down to his bunny ears is perfectly killy.

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BrookM wrote:
We really need an Argel Tal mini, so we can have those besties on the tabletop together..!

Almost certainly going to happen whenever FW gets around to the book covering the Shadow Crusade. I think by the old plan we would have it by now, but it seems like it's been pushed back quite a bit.

**Moopy**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the Squats come back, only they put warpgold runes into their skin, and the Orks have an identity crisis, grow bigger and change their name.

Moopy wrote:
So, we have a plastic Ahriman standing on a Mk III marine.

Can anyone point toward rumors or confirmations of a plastic Mk III boxed set akin to BaC?

Too many pages/threads to rummage through at this point.

It seems likely, given he's part of a box and it would be weird to have something under his feet that is aesthetically divergent from everything else.

Thank you!

**ImAGeek**

gorgon wrote:
timd wrote:
Yeah, I'm late to the party, but perhaps his dominant hand changed because he became more sinister?

Nicely done.

I'd say that suggesting Kharn has a dominant hand implies that one hand is worse at killing. Which is impossible. Every part of Kharn down to his bunny ears is perfectly killy.

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BrookM wrote:
We really need an Argel Tal mini, so we can have those besties on the tabletop together..!

Almost certainly going to happen whenever FW gets around to the book covering the Shadow Crusade. I think by the old plan we would have it by now, but it seems like it's been pushed back quite a bit.

Yeah the Shadow Crusade book was meant to be book 6 after Calth, back when Tempest was just coming out. Daemon Angron will also be in that book.

**Chikout**

The traitors hate book popped up on the spikey bits forums. It does say black crusade in the corner.
Also here https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1066

**VeteranNoob**

Chikout wrote:
The traitors hate book popped up on the spikey bits forums. It does say black crusade in the corner.
Also here https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/1066

ooooooo

I like advancing fluff and new rules for bad guys. Curious to see the psyker powers and the detachment.

**Chaos Legionnaire**

Well, it's about time the Black Legion, Crimson Slaughter, and Khorne finally got a supplement....

Oh well. All part of the plan I suppose.

**Wayniac**

hopefully "new rules" means replacements like they did with... the Iron Priest or something for Wolves I think (had one version in the codex, and then an updated one in Wulfen I think). I'll be happy with a true Decurion type of thing that fixes some of the issues.

**Azreal13**

I hope the changes are more at a unit level, decurions invariably feature models I don't have or want, or in quantities I don't want to paint!

**zanzibarthefirst**

There are too many problems with the codex to expect that this book will fix all of it's woes, hopefully it'll be a start.

Whatever happened to Fenris part 2 or have we just skipped to another warzone.

**GoatboyBeta**

So looks like a cross between a warzone book and a Chaos version of the AoD supplement. With the black crusade tag on the side it seems GW really are revisiting and possibly expanding on the events of the old world wide campaign. With that in mind could the weapon Abbadon is after be one of the Blackstone fortresses?
Chaos is a large and diverse faction that needs a lot of work both in the rules and models department. Hopefully this is the start of more things to come and not just a one off.

**Abadabadoobaddon**

I'm predicting the Blood Angels win.

**Azreal13**

Warhammer Facebook wrote:We saw the new Khârn model earlier this week, courtesy of Warhammer TV.
But a champion with as legendary a reputation as The Betrayer needs an equally legendary war.

And here’s what’s on the way — Traitor’s Hate, a campaign book that chronicles the opening battle of the 13th Black Crusade.
For Warhammer 40,000 fans, this is a huge event in the timeline of the galaxy, but for Chaos Space Marine fans, this is even more: the start of a vengeance 10,000 years in the making.

Find out more about this new book next weekend.
games-workshop.com/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=traitorshatecover

**JimOnMars**

"...the start of a vengeance 10,000 years in the making..."

So, since the end of 3.5, then? It seems like that long.

**Azreal13**

I just hope they bloody mean it.

**Ashiraya**

Aaaaaaaah! Why didn't they do this before I leapt ship to 30k?

Ah well, most of my Heresy stuff blends in pretty well among CSM.

I am seriously interested in this.

**Azreal13**

I've been building my Emperor's Kids with a foot in each system, just in case.

**Arbitrator**

Azreal13 wrote:
I just hope they bloody mean it.

Don't hold your breath.

The Blood Angels will be defeated (but played up as a heroic sacrifice), but it will turn out to be a Pyrrhic Victory for Chaos as either the Blood Angels sabotage and destroy the weapon and/or Kharn does it himself.

**Azreal13**

I give not one purple feth for the fluff outcome, as long as it brings some interesting rules with it.

**aracersss**

out of 4chan

Well, saw the Traitor's Hate stuff and talked about it to the redshirt. Supposedly it has datasheets for all renegade knight patterns seperatly instead of the single one from the box, i.e. Warden, Crusader and so on. Dedications are in.
Kharn will get a new datasheet, but will mostly stay the same except for one change. Maybe the rumored Eternal Warrior, the guy refused to clarify that. He can be taken in CSM and KDK.
Black Legion meta formation is the usual decurion stuff. Several formations combine daemons and CSM. It's all about BL and CS, so no stuff for other legions.
The psychic disciplines are not god-specific and availiable to all psykers.

Names of the new heretic Psychic Disciplines.
Ectomancy (mmm, Ecto Cooler)
Geomortis
Sinisturm
Heretech

Rumored Heretech power:

Howl of the Warp
Warp Charge 2

Blessing targeting a friendly unit within 18"

Unit's ranged weapons become AP3, Gets Hot

**casvalremdeikun**

Khârn in KDK makes that army much more enticing to me.

**ImAGeek**

I really like that cover art.

**Ashiraya**

Wow, that is one hell of an unimpressive psychic power.

**aracersss**

Ashiraya wrote:
Wow, that is one hell of an unimpressive psychic power.

it's a domino effect without the condition of an unsaved wound to trigger the extra effect ... D6 hits that trigger another set of D6 hits on every other unit within 6"

**gigasnail**

And it will probably never get used because your sorcs are going to be fishing for actual useful powers.

**aracersss**

not everything can be ignore cover, tl, & invi

**gigasnail**

But about everything you're already going to want to use *is*

No one will use this except on accident, when all 5+ sorcs you roll with get junk.

**nagash42**

And randomly located might take out a heavy/special weapon. Still kinda cool.

**EverlastingNewb**

So, this Book comes out - i assume - on September the 10th, which is ALSO the World Suicide Prevention Day..

Coincidence? I think not.

**GoatboyBeta**

Looks like a full on warzone/campaign book then?
Chaos has a lot of fincast/metal models as well as several that require the basic CSM kit. Hopefully GW are using the black crusade and Fenris releases to update models and units on the edges(eg Rubrics and fingers crossed Bezerkers). So when they do release a new Chaos codex in the (hopefully near)future there's not such a crapton of models/rules they have to redo at the same time.