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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 10:56:17
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Terrifying Wraith
Training sheep, Stocking Urchins.
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It randomly popped into my head, but:
Does the Imperium have a currency? If so, what?
Anyone know?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 11:25:26
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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I think it varies considerably from planet to planet, but I assume there is some sort of generic 'imperial credits' currency that all planetary currencies are compared to.
Like how there are tonnes of of currencies on earth, but when talking about global finances we only use dollars/pounds/euros/yen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 11:51:38
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
Australia
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Their currency is the honest blood, sweat and toil of the Imperial Guard!
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The Screaming Beagles of Helicia V
Hive Fleet Jumanji
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 11:59:31
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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if I recall correctly from the RPG, the currency used is the THRONE, but I might be wrong.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 12:49:08
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Imperial Credits seems to be the generic term.
Though currency seems of limited importance in the Imperium. The taxes planets owe to the Adeptus Terra for instance are not money but things like conscripts, psykers, food, etc..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 14:24:39
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Sneaky Kommando
Atlanta
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The currency of Thrones is specific to the Calixus Sector. While there may be other areas of the Galaxy that use this form of currency, it is not the entirety of the Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 15:27:25
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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there isn't a true imperial currency.
although there are "Imperial Credits" which are used by the Imperium itself to purchase needed commodities from planets. these Credits are good as money just about anywhere and are always accepted on Imperial Planets. they usually end up in the planetary Govts hands and are used to pay the Tithe.
each Planet and/or Sector would have its own Currency for their trade purposes.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 15:35:13
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Grey Templar wrote:there isn't a true imperial currency.
Thrones are.
Some places don't use thrones per se, but all of them accept them.
Of course, true wealth isn't in money...
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 15:39:32
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Thrones are the Currency of the Calaxis sector. they happen to be popular elsewhere too, but they aren't the official currency of the imperium.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Calixis_Sector
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 15:41:35
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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On Necromunda, they use Imperial Credits. Simple, but I think this is the most used currency in the Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 15:44:21
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Sneaky Kommando
Atlanta
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Melissia wrote:Grey Templar wrote:there isn't a true imperial currency.
Thrones are.
Some places don't use thrones per se, but all of them accept them.
Of course, true wealth isn't in money...
Where is this stated?
All I have ever read has Thrones being a Calixus Sector Currency, even the Lexicanum says as much. (not that it is anywhere near infallible)
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Calixis_Sector
The Lexicanum wrote:
Currency
The currency of the sector are the Thrones Gelt. There are precious shell tokens or coins of rare metals
Where have you seen it stated that Thrones are used outside of it? Automatically Appended Next Post: ninja'd!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 16:35:09
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Thrones are also used in the Ciaphas Cain series, more than half a galaxy away, with no evidence of other types of currency.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 16:38:36
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Sneaky Kommando
Atlanta
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Melissia wrote:Thrones are also used in the Ciaphas Cain series, more than half a galaxy away, with no evidence of other types of currency.
Good call. It's been quite a few years since I read a novel from that series.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 17:59:24
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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So?
the Throne is doubtlessly used extensivly, but it is NOT the official currency. I doubt there even is one.
if anything, its Imperial Credits.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:01:30
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The "Throne Gelt" of the Calixis Sector may be the local term for the "Imperial Credit", as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:06:48
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Sneaky Kommando
Atlanta
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Credits were definitely used in Necromunda, but I do not know too many other places they were used.
Thrones seem to be the front runner as most common currency.
Rouge Trader makes mention to them as well, in so far as saying that the wealth in the game Rouge Trader is far beyond mere Thrones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:07:10
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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yes, OR there could simply be 2 currencies with the same, or similer, name.
Throne does have a nice ring to it and would make sense. Golden Throne and all...
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:07:49
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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NagothDaCleaver wrote:Melissia wrote:Thrones are also used in the Ciaphas Cain series, more than half a galaxy away, with no evidence of other types of currency.
Good call. It's been quite a few years since I read a novel from that series.
It's also used in Gaunt's Ghosts (Cuu gets wipped for stealing defaced thrones
I think there is a standard imperial currency it just has different names where you go hence there being credits and thrones
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:15:54
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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So it's just like dollar and buck.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:19:24
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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maybe, but i belive Thrones are actual physical coins while Credits are purely electronic.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:26:00
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Sneaky Kommando
Atlanta
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Grey Templar wrote:maybe, but i belive Thrones are actual physical coins while Credits are purely electronic.
This sounds far too reasonable to be true
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 18:26:02
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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That wouldn't surprise me. But most people probably wouldn't use electronic currency except on the more affluent hive worlds...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 20:03:56
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Castle Black
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there is no currency in the future. The imperium is quite obviously comunist. Have you never noticed that the imperial guard is verrrrrry similar to the russian army, comisars, conscripts and geting killed for retreating.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 20:05:42
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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huntho21 wrote:there is no currency in the future. The imperium is quite obviously comunist. Have you never noticed that the imperial guard is verrrrrry similar to the russian army, comisars, conscripts and geting killed for retreating.....
So you are saying that communist societies dont have currency?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 20:37:13
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Dominar
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NagothDaCleaver wrote:Grey Templar wrote:maybe, but i belive Thrones are actual physical coins while Credits are purely electronic.
This sounds far too reasonable to be true
The Eisenhorn omnibus refers both to high-denomination credits in reference to the payment of the Janissary mercenaries and to 'Imperials' when they're dealing with the mutant 'twist' population of that agriworld they traced the Alpha-plus psyker auction to.
And actually the eisenhorn and ravenor series both have many side references to 'credits' as hard currency (as I recall, haven't read either in a year or more), used for trade in both small transactions and large on numerous worlds, in paper, 'hard' coin and chit form.
That makes me think that credits exist in a physical form (both 'hard' currency, like gold or pecious metals, and fiat money like chits/vouchers) as well as electronic and that there's one common currency with different imperial nomenclature that differs by region (ex thrones, crowns, credits).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 20:38:09
Subject: Re:Currency of the Imperium?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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xXSir MontyXx wrote:huntho21 wrote:there is no currency in the future. The imperium is quite obviously comunist. Have you never noticed that the imperial guard is verrrrrry similar to the russian army, comisars, conscripts and geting killed for retreating.....
So you are saying that communist societies dont have currency? Yeah. Soviets had Rubbles, we our Dinar and China Yuan etc.... As for Imperium, they have credits - but can exchange every foreigh money for it. On Taros Tau paid local gangs to fight against IG, I imagine they paid the Tau creds, and later the guys that survived get Imperial creds for Tau creds
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 20:41:26
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Well Lijah Cuu did steal defaced solid coins with the big e's head on it....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 21:24:18
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The Mechanicus alone possess the technology (basically, a super-powerful astropath-in-a-jar) to transmit information from all of their shrine-forges to other shrine-forges and, ultimately, to Mars. Without quantum computers and similar, high-speed, galaxy-spanning networks, it would be impossible to maintain a galaxy-wide currency in electronic form.
If it takes thirty years for your debit card to go from a pastry shop on Opus Macharius to your bank's central office on Macragge, and another 30 years for the "approved" message to make it back to the pastry shop... you'll opt for cash.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 21:26:18
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/19 23:29:01
Subject: Currency of the Imperium?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Fun bit of info regarding currency from the DH sourcebook:
While Thrones are a common term throughout the sector, most citizens continue to use local names for currency. These can very widely from one planet to the next and may even differ within a world itself. Some of the more prominent terms for Thrones within the Calixis Sector include Scints, Scolds and Scabs - these are all terms used in the hives of Scintilla, and have become synonymous with the most valuable denomination of the Thrones, based in no small part on that world's excessive levels of wealth.
Soules - On the war-world of Iocanthos, many believe that their money is forever stained by the blood of mercenaries, giving rise to the idea of trading in the souls of fallen warriors.
Rounds - Used in the depths of Gunmetal City, where actual bullets are sometimes used as currency.
Chips or Lumps - In the mines and villages of Sepheris Secundus, life revolves around endless mining, to the point where chips and lumps of ore are synonymous with Thrones
Lords and Ladies - On the medieval backwater of Acreage, each noble is responsible for minting his own coins, with the value of each being directly tied to the fortunes of the lord or lady whose likeness it bears.
Scales or Fins- On the water world of Spectoris, fish are found in all aspects of life, to the point where being particularly flush with cash is often referred to as "having a shoal of fins" or "looking a bit scaly".
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