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 Accolade wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:
The walker is actually growing on me quite a bit, very tempting to get one...but I think I'll hold off until we see if this extra Cult Mechanicus 'dex is really a thing; no point thinking about the army I want to build until I know what all the options are going to be.

I agree, I like the walker when it has the full footpads down, when there are only headlights in the front, and when it has an integrated turret weapon (as opposed to the big, blocky missile launcher). I'm debating picking up a small force for combat patrols, so I don't think I'll have too much use for it, but I still may get one if my opinion continues to improve. I do like tanks!

Mmm, agreed. If I do pick a squadron up, it'll be with Neutron/doublestubber loadout and I'll model it with feet down and the IWND upgrade as a repair servoskull or the like, so I can have both headlights. If I ever did decide to grab one of the AA loadouts, I'd reserve the main weapon mount for just the autocannons, and put something along the lines of a Havok/Hyperios launcher up on the cupola to represent the missile launchers.

 prowla wrote:

beast_gts wrote:

migooo wrote:
I have a feeling the Tech Priest will be in the Cult Mechanicus book, I'm a little annoyed by the lack of it also.

The Legio Cybernetica is probably gone by 40k amalgamated into something else.... though I think I remember them in Epic at some point.

Remember the Mechanicum is different too the Adeptus Mechanicus

Legio Cybernetica is listed in the book:

Spoiler:

Well, obviously GW wouldn't shrink away from releasing a codex full of big robots just because of something called 'established fluff'

Again though, the established fluff is that the Legio Cybernetica did survive the Heresy and Robots do exist in 40K:

Following the defeat of the Heresy and the banishment of the Traitor Legions, the dishonored Legio cohorts also fled into the Eye of Terror, where they remain to this day. Since the defeat of Horus, the Legio Cybernetica has pledged itself anew to the Imperium. Its members now take binding oaths of loyalty more terrible than any Marine Chapter oaths.

 Kanluwen wrote:
By the way, there is a mention about "Graia" being the name of not just one Forge World but two.

One was lost and another later renamed.

The fluff strongly implies that it is a massive space station.

 BrookM wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
By the way, there is a mention about "Graia" being the name of not just one Forge World but two.

One was lost and another later renamed.

The fluff strongly implies that it is a massive space station.

Graia : The "Forgeworld" is now gigantic space stations that can have "giant fusion engines" fitted and then move as mobile battle stations to a new world

Legio Cybernetica has never been destroyed in the fluff that I recall - just not mentioned much anymore.

Wait... so Graia is now more of a 'Death Star' than a planet?

I'm guessing the background about it getting nommed by nids is obsolete, then.

It could've been eaten by the Nids, but the important parts just flew away to fight another day, with the magos in charge shaking an angry mechadendrite at the Great Devourer.

Get off my space you darn nids!

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Wait... so Graia is now more of a 'Death Star' than a planet?

I'm guessing the background about it getting nommed by nids is obsolete, then.

Apparently the "current" Graia was ruined by the attack of Donorian predators (?)

another interesting snippet is that a Skitarri Alpha comes up with a way of burning a layer of a planets atmosphere to destroy the waves of incoming tryranid spores - its a great success but his report is filed away on a nearby Forgeworld and forgotton

Also an interesting thing to note:

The Skitarii codex is labeled as "Printed in the UK' on the back and the usual technical stuff in the front says "Printed by Belmont in the UK".
It also says "Games Workshop in Nottingham" rather than the Games Workshop Design Studio, which I thought was different.

Ah, the jingoists can breathe easy now and stop boycotting the codex sales.

So the Lathe Worlds have appeared in the Skitarii Codex. albeit only on the galaxy map.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Wait... so Graia is now more of a 'Death Star' than a planet?

I'm guessing the background about it getting nommed by nids is obsolete, then.

Apparently the "current" Graia was ruined by the attack of Donorian predators (?)

another interesting snippet is that a Skitarri Alpha comes up with a way of burning a layer of a planets atmosphere to destroy the waves of incoming tryranid spores - its a great success but his report is filed away on a nearby Forgeworld and forgotton

Ahh Bureaucracy at its finest.

 BrookM wrote:
It could've been eaten by the Nids, but the important parts just flew away to fight another day, with the magos in charge shaking an angry mechadendrite at the Great Devourer.

It's ok a exploratory shortly team discovers an ancient lost nerve gas weapon on Holy Terra called Raduim Anti Insect Destroyer and unleashes it against the Nids in retribution for this loss.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
So the Lathe Worlds have appeared in the Skitarii Codex. albeit only on the galaxy map.

Fine by me. All I was expecting really.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
So the Lathe Worlds have appeared in the Skitarii Codex. albeit only on the galaxy map.

Fine by me. All I was expecting really.

Let it go.

They'll never love you like you love them H.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
So the Lathe Worlds have appeared in the Skitarii Codex. albeit only on the galaxy map.

Fine by me. All I was expecting really.

yeah, I'm happy to see it happened. GW has in their 'dexes, of late, I've been noticing making more referances to black library, the FFG RP stuff etc. it's a good thing.

BrianDavion wrote:
yeah, I'm happy to see it happened. GW has in their 'dexes, of late, I've been noticing making more referances to black library, the FFG RP stuff etc. it's a good thing.

That's all they need to do - references here and there (like the new Calix-robot that FW put out) - just to make things more cohesive and show how it's all one big universe.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
So the Lathe Worlds have appeared in the Skitarii Codex. albeit only on the galaxy map.

Fine by me. All I was expecting really.

Let it go.

They'll never love you like you love them H.

Is that a (Galaxy) Maps reference?

I still don't like the walker.

I will be converting a Steampunk 4-legged walker from IronClad miniatures.

I love the infantry though.

And also bought 2 x 10 units Covenant of Antarctica Automatons (robots) from Spartan game Dystopian Legions.
I needed a reason to buy some and admech is a perfect reason.

I LOVE the Onager! Amazing model, love the weapons. Gonna get a bunch.

I really didn't like the Ruststalkers/Infiltrators at first though, but the Infiltrators are starting to grow on me. I love their dome heads, very old-school sci-fi. Seems quite good in-game as well, debuffing enemies that are close by, getting some shots in and they seem OK in CC.

Might just get 3 Onagers and some Infiltrators to go along with my Vanguards and Rangers I already have.

Love this release, the codex is just beautiful, and a really interesting read. Kudos to GW on this one! Now let's just hope the Cult Mechanicus rumours are true.. or not, depending on if you view ther matter from mine or my wallets perspective.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
So the Lathe Worlds have appeared in the Skitarii Codex. albeit only on the galaxy map.

Fine by me. All I was expecting really.

Let it go.

They'll never love you like you love them H.

Is that a (Galaxy) Maps reference?

Spoiler:

This song annoys me.

Could also be a Frozen reference ;0

It is nice ot see the odd reference to older / BL/FFG material - the recent End Times for WFB had some nice ones.............

A new related ebook

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/ad-mech-vanguard-ebook.html

I picked up the codex this weekend, and rather enjoy it. I think it's definitely an interesting army. However, I want to wait for the full AdMech codex to see if these guys get any transports like a "Mars Pattern Chimera" or other means of mobility.

A pair of the crawlers with the Icarus Array is some decent AA. Not incredibly resilient at AV12, but I like them on paper.

AV12 with an invulnerable save that begs for squadrons.

A pair of them gives you a 5++, right? I just don't think I'd run 3. That's a large footprint you have to find room for on the table, if nothing else. 2 seems the right number for me.

I'll likely buy 3, and park them behind my FOR

I love my fortifications, and FMC are the bane of my existence at my FLGS

Yup, 2x Onagers equals a 5++.

You can also add Cognis Manipulators on them for 25 points to grant It Will Not Die.

Did a dry run of one squad of 10 of both Vanguards and Ruststalkers against a like amount of Tac Marines and Vanguard Vets respectivly. The poor marines didn't know what hit them. With the right Warlord trait to fire overwatch at BS4 half the marines were dead on the charge. The other half did tie up the Vanguard for about 9 rounds of combat before the sargeant, the last marine standing, went down. The other combat was much more one sided in favor of the Ruststalkers.

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
Did a dry run of one squad of 10 of both Vanguards and Ruststalkers against a like amount of Tac Marines and Vanguard Vets respectivly. The poor marines didn't know what hit them. With the right Warlord trait to fire overwatch at BS4 half the marines were dead on the charge. The other half did tie up the Vanguard for about 9 rounds of combat before the sargeant, the last marine standing, went down. The other combat was much more one sided in favor of the Ruststalkers.

I didn't even consider a Vanguard Alpha for the Pater Radium.

Dang. That changes everything...

 Yodhrin wrote:

Again though, the established fluff is that the Legio Cybernetica did survive the Heresy and Robots do exist in 40K:

Following the defeat of the Heresy and the banishment of the Traitor Legions, the dishonored Legio cohorts also fled into the Eye of Terror, where they remain to this day. Since the defeat of Horus, the Legio Cybernetica has pledged itself anew to the Imperium. Its members now take binding oaths of loyalty more terrible than any Marine Chapter oaths.

Someone needs to tell FW because this is their response to any of the Mechanicum stuff being used with the new Ad Mech stuff:

Hi There,

The Mechanicus and the Mechanicum are two factions separated by 10,000 years of history so they do have some differences. However there is nothing stopping you using both in your games to represent obscure branches of the same organisation etc.

You should always feel free to do whatever you and your friends will enjoy in your games.

Thanks

So yeah, don't expect shared rules anytime soon, even when there are organizations between the two that are shared.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

Again though, the established fluff is that the Legio Cybernetica did survive the Heresy and Robots do exist in 40K:

Following the defeat of the Heresy and the banishment of the Traitor Legions, the dishonored Legio cohorts also fled into the Eye of Terror, where they remain to this day. Since the defeat of Horus, the Legio Cybernetica has pledged itself anew to the Imperium. Its members now take binding oaths of loyalty more terrible than any Marine Chapter oaths.

Someone needs to tell FW because this is their response to any of the Mechanicum stuff being used with the new Ad Mech stuff:

Hi There,

The Mechanicus and the Mechanicum are two factions separated by 10,000 years of history so they do have some differences. However there is nothing stopping you using both in your games to represent obscure branches of the same organisation etc.

You should always feel free to do whatever you and your friends will enjoy in your games.

Thanks

So yeah, don't expect shared rules anytime soon, even when there are organizations between the two that are shared.

None of that email contradicts the quote I posted. Nor does it contradict the fact that "Legio Cybernetica" is right there in big chunky letters as part of the AdMech organisation pyramid in the Skitarii 'dex. The fluff supports Legio Cybernetica forces being active in 40K.

Now sure, GW could put out no rules for the Legio at all, or could put out rules and models for Cybernetica and not include the Castellan(Castellax) or Crusader(Vorax) at all, and FW could then subsequently refuse to put out rules for using their models in 40K-era games, but I don't think even GW hate making money enough to be that thick.