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Pretty good mechdar list by the looks of it.
Not sure if i would give the Fire Prisms Holo-fields, but it makes them harder to kill. Would also rather have a Brightlance on the Falcon. And just from my limited personal experience with Eldar, i wouldn't take a unit of 6 jetbikers, but i can see some merit in that unit.

But 7 tanks is pretty good for Eldar at 1750, 10 Melta weapons, 3 Missile, 1 Pulse laser, two big blasts and bladestorming Dire Avengers means you've got anti tank and anti-infantry in your list.


Only real down point i can think of, is you have lots of upgrades, and expense in an older codex that probably equals being severely out numbered and out gunned (How many tanks do Guard, BA, DE and even Space Wolves take at 1750?) with your two Farseers, 5 Spirit stones (some people don't take them) 3 Holo-fields, Warlock with jetbikes and two bladestorm squads could all be cut down a bit to get an extra wave serpent (probably only one though, so i doubt its worth it.) So i would stick with what you've got here to be honest.

rodgers37 wrote:
Would also rather have a Brightlance on the Falcon.

I've taken the missile launcher so, when moving 12", I can fire it as defensive. Can't do that with a bright lance.

rodgers37 wrote: And just from my limited personal experience with Eldar, i wouldn't take a unit of 6 jetbikers, but i can see some merit in that unit.[/quote
I took the jetbikes because of last turn objective grabbing. I'm pretty iffy about them at the moment, so I would like suggestions as what to replace them with.

Also, the fire prisms can link fire and fire small blasts as well. That means Strength 10 AP1 small blast, twin linked at BS 4. Scary!

Two Farseers are a bit much. I'd drop one of them and the holofields from the Prisms.
This would free enough points to take another unit of FDs in a Serpent.

wuestenfux wrote:This would free enough points to take another unit of FDs in a Serpent.

Thing is, I could drop the jetbikes to get the Dragons, and Holo-fields are just amazing.

I'd drop the Holo-Fields on the Prisms, but keep it on the Falcon. They're not going to keep the Prism's shooting, so they're not doing what you need them to do.

I'd drop Fortune too, as it's not going to protect you against saves you can't make. They're good with units of Warlocks, because it allows you to re-roll their 4+ invulnurables, but it's not so useful when protecting your DAs.

I'd also swap the TL EMLs on the Serpents w/ Shiruken Cannons. It'll lower your points by a lot, and the 3 S6 shots are still relevant against heavy infantry and light armor. If you must take a weapon upgrade on them, Scatterlasers give you an extra S6 shot.

Don't really like the Jetbikes either. With all those points you save, you could add in more scoring DAs in Serpents or more Fire Dragons... either option is better.

OK, changed the list.
HQ
Farseer, Doom, Guide, Spirit stones, runes of witnessing.
Farseer, Doom, Guide, Spirit stones, runes of witnessing, Runes of warding.

ELITES
5 Fire Dragons
Wave serpent, Twin-linked Shruiken cannon, spirit stones.
5 Fire Dragons
Wave serpent, Twin-linked Shruiken cannon, spirit stones.
5 Fire Dragons
Wave serpent, Twin-linked Shruiken cannon, spirit stones.

TROOPS
10 Dire avengers, exarch with bladestorm and dual catapults.
Wave serpent, Twin-linked Shruiken cannon, spirit stones.
10 Dire avengers, exarch with bladestorm and dual catapults.
Wave serpent, Twin-linked Shruiken cannon, spirit stones.
5 dire avengers
Wave serpent, Twin-linked Shruiken cannon, spirit stones.

HEAVY SUPPORT
Fire prism, Holo-fields, Spirit stones
Fire prism, Holo-fields, Spirit stones
Fire prism, Holo-fields, Spirit stones


Reason I've kept the holo's on the prisms is so It's harder to destroy, and now I have 3 if one is stopped shooting, they can still link.

How about an Autarch w/ fusion gun if you plan to stay in reserve?

I wasn't planning to, but I can see dual autarch lists being viable.

At the moment, the only unit staying in reserve is the 5 man squad of avengers.

At 1750, you could drop to only one Farseer.

I'd use that one Farseer with a squad of 10 Bladestorm DAs, and bring the other avengers squads to a min 5-man + Serpent build.

I think Stones + Holos on the Prisms is a huge waste of points, personally... that's almost another scoring unit in a Serpent worth of upgrades.

All they do is shoot. The Holo+Stone keeps them moving, but never shooting. So they don't really help at all.

If you dropped the upgrades and one Farseer, and reduced one of the DA squads to 5, you could fit in another scoring unit of DAs (or maybe even two!). Which would make it a better list, IMO.

Generally, Eldar can make do with 2-3 Troops, So I don't need as many as your suggesting.

Make do and win are two different things. 2/3 of the games will have objectives. If you lose your troops, you lose. I'd take at least 3-4 scoring units at 1750. At 1500, you can likely get away with three.

This list looks like you're playing to tie, not playing to win. Drop the upgrades and the toys, and get some more scoring units. At least, that's what I would do.

List is good.

Spirit stones on serpents. Holos on prisms. Full davu squads. Double farseer with 3 powers. All good but make ur list points heavy. If you feel you need more you can take down these accessories.

Thats a very, very good list and the only thing i would do is drop a fire prism for a squad of 3 war walkers with shuriken cannon and scatterlaser. I just played in a tourney with 2 fire prisms and they didn't really do much. I'm thinking next time to just put bright lances on my wave serpents and then if I have enough points bring 2 squads of war walkers. With the scatter laser spam you get 24 shots at S 6. That will easily take out any transport you want.

As I said before, If 1 prism gets shaken, Then 2 can still link.

Well, you rely on three Prims.
Frankly, I never had much luck with them so that I stay away from them.

I just had a game against Chaos space marine lash list. I won by miles.

woodbok wrote:I just had a game against Chaos space marine lash list. I won by miles.

How about a list with 9 Obliterators?

wuestenfux wrote:

woodbok wrote:I just had a game against Chaos space marine lash list. I won by miles.

How about a list with 9 Obliterators?

He had 9 oblits.


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It was DOW, and 2nd turn all 3 squads had died due to fire dragons and Guided fire prisms.

Not sure how good your opponent was.
Nine Oblits can be really nasty especially if they deep strike and use their tl meltas to down your vehicles.

wuestenfux wrote:Not sure how good your opponent was.
Nine Oblits can be really nasty especially if they deep strike and use their tl meltas to down your vehicles.

He has a fear of deep striking, since an incidence with 3 oblits earlier this year. Any way, good player, and he did have a tad of bad luck, and How I came on(Dawn of war) was Infuriating him.