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Hey guys.

I've recently decided to do orks and i wanted a very fast biker type army with a few trukks with boyz in for good measure.

I know nothing about Ork army list building so any comments are Appreciated

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Wazzdakka

Troops
12 bikers with Nob, Power Klaw
12 bikers with Nob, Power Klaw
12 bikers with Nob, Power Klaw
12 boyz with Nob, Big choppa Trukk red paint, Ram
12 boyz with Nob, Big choppa Trukk red paint, Ram
12 boyz with Nob, Big choppa Trukk red paint, Ram


Elites
6 Nob bikers with Pain boy, 2 PK, 3 Big Choppas and a WAAAGH! banner

That's It so far. I've used up the 119 points that were left over to give power claws to my bike squads and to some Nob bikers. hope theres enough AT there but all of it's Fast moving and at S10 so it should do the trick

Again any comments are Welcome and am up for suggestions. Not meant to be a List for tournaments, Mainly for games at my FLGS and maybe a few basic low level tournies, Thanks

I have no orks yet so feel free to Change it but i want Mainly bikers so please try to stick to that theme.

Thank you

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Wow.....that's a lot of bikes, and I would agree that you should use the points to put Power Klaws on as many Nobz as you can, just make sure that you have a Power Klaw on the Nob in at least some of your biker squads, as your force lacks anti-tank, but Power Klaws should do the job.

Not sure about the Boarding Plank though, I might be tempted to take a Reinforced Ram instead, if tank shocking and ramming with Trukks is your thing, they're fun.

Other than that I'm not sure there's much more for me to say. Good Luck.

I never really planned to Ram or tankshock because you can't charge afterwards so maybe not but i think that changing the big choppas to power claws is a must. I'm just not sure that it will fit into 2000.


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I've added the power klaws now but only some. i couldn't give all the nobs PK so there's only 5 out there (not including Wazzdakkas)

Always put a pk on a nob with boyz. It is mostly your only damage dealer witht eh boyz. Bikers a mainly boyz on bikes, so a PK is a must on them too.

With 6 nob bikers, I would go

PK- waaagh
PK- Bp
PK
BC
Painboy
kombi weapon or basic loadot
all cybork.

That way you have something to save you from AP4 (more than only FNP) and ID hits. The BP is pretty much a must since your LD7 is quite easy to fail and you do not want 400 points running off the board IMO. Witht eh Bikers and the boyz, a BP would be recommended, but if you do not find the points for it, so be it.

take away the boarding planks and nail rams to the trukks insdead. I mean, if you are 2" within something you'll charge it directly instead of using the plank, right?

and the ram is useful, as it allows you to reroll dt tests and you can till ts after the boys have been released

the planks are bad on trukks anyway and also on bw as well, all trukks really need is ram really and you want to make as cehap as possible because they will be popped right away anyway. Love the idea of the bikers, I have been working on my speed freaks for sometime and let me tell you this, my nob bikers of 8 man swuad wrecked the most dag and took 50% or more fire at ard boyz then rest of my army.

Save Planks for 'Wagons, and get Rams on those Trukks.

OK.. I've taken off the plank and added the Ram now. Any other suggestions?


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Maybe i could take out one boys squad and their trukk for more PK and a Bosspole

that'll be fast and fun until you hit something like nids or other orks.

If i play another horde type army ill probably add loads of shorcha's and burnas to do the job. But i doubt i'll ever play a Horde player because the only 3 players at my FLGS who could feild hordes 2 nid players and 1Ork) all feild elitist type armies with Nobs in the orks and MC's n the nids so it might not be too much of a problem.

Personally, I would drop the Trukks, drop the number of models in each warbiker squad (think of them as a Nob Delivery System), add in a Warbiker Warboss, and three small units (5) of lootas and two buzzsaw/tl rokkit deffkoptas.

Attache the Warboss to one Deffkopta and Wazzdakka to the other, and you've now got a majority toughness 6 unit who will always have a cover save, can get a 3+ turboboost save, and has wound allocation shenanigans. Additionally, you can drop any Str 10 hits onto the kopta to protect your more expensive unit, Str 9 or lower onto the Boss/Dakka to keep your kopta from getting ID'd, and the Koptas rokkits synergize well with Wazdakka's guns.

Thanks for the advice Heffling I might drop one of the Trukk sauqads in exhange for a warboss and mybe drop a whole bike squad for anither Nob biker squad.

I'm not too keen on deffkoptas though. I've never really liked the models or the idea of Orks in mini helicopters in the midst of this Heavy cavalry type force.

Lootas, maybe. I like Deffguns i just wish they were AP3. Plus they're quite Expensive aswell and im a bit tight for points.


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Plus i'm not a fan of shooty orks. I would much prefer to have an All out CC, Fast Orks army and lootas seem to go against that 'tis all.

Could make Hovering bikes as your Koptaz. No-one said you have to use them as-is, after all.

Fast list, though. Very Speedy. They're all painted Red, right?

This list is brutal.... Make em nob bikers and youll be UNSTOPABLE

I don't think going with more nobs is the solution. Bikers are definitely tougher than your average ork, but you pay for their resilience and speed. If anything, I worry about 12 model units(for orks) in a 2000 point game. With the edited list above, I would drop 1 biker from each unit, use it to purchase a PK for each trukk mob nob, and the remaining 15 points(PK's replace the BC's), add a BP to one nob who should have the Waaagh! banner and a PK, then with the 3 BC Nobz, give one a Kombi-S/S, and the other a Kombi-Rokkit Launcha.....purely for wound allocation, otherwise I'd go with another skorcha.

Biker Nobz are so expensive, but who doesn't love them? Painboy bikers are perfect, because they regain and increase their ranged power.

Anvildude wrote:

Fast list, though. Very Speedy. They're all painted Red, right?

Yes they will all be painted red....and yellow.


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And the Nob biker are going with Wazzdakka for those who didn't work it out so there's a powerful enough unit there.

I don't want any slow moveing units in this army which is why there are only small units in Trukks. But since there's three of them i don't thinks its a problem. 36 infantry with WS5 and 4 attacks each on the charge should deal with any line infantry my enemy might have. The reason the Nobz in those squads don't have power klaws is because they are for AI not AT. Thats where the bikers come it. They'll be able to get to where the armour is quickly enough so that they don't cause too much of a problem to my trukks which aren't quite as fast or safe from large arms fire.

That's the plan at least


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Maybe i could drop one squad of trukk boys and upgrade the other trukks to looted wagons and 20 boyz rather than 12