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2011/09/09 00:08:15
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
I don't see how anyone who actually looks at videos, pictures, photographs, listens to experts, and who can analyse data can actually think that it wasnt a Government Conspiracy.
Two planes didnt cause all that damage.
Two planes crashed
Three buildings collapsed demolition-style. Wut?
Beerfart wrote:I don't see how anyone who actually looks at videos, pictures, photographs, listens to experts, and who can analyse data can actually think that it wasnt a Government Conspiracy.
Two planes didnt cause all that damage.
Two planes crashed
Three buildings collapsed demolition-style. Wut?
Open your eyes.
Between this post and your Avatar I have to assume this is some performance art piece, or satire.
This is a legitimate topic
Not really.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2011/09/09 00:20:54
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Beerfart wrote:I don't see how anyone who actually looks at videos, pictures, photographs, listens to experts, and who can analyse data can actually think that it wasnt a Government Conspiracy.
Two planes didnt cause all that damage.
Two planes crashed
Three buildings collapsed demolition-style. Wut?
Open your eyes.
Between this post and your Avatar I have to assume this is some performance art piece, or satire.
Why did building 7 collapse then? Tell me, fires dont cause buildings like that to collapse as if a controlled demolition took place....and it wasnt one of the buildings hit.
All these buildings and the official story is that fire caused supports to collapse....while until now there has NEVER been a case of fire-induced collapse of large fire protected steel buildings.
I literally cannot think of any fething rational reason why people think the US government crashed planes into its own industrial centers, with civilians on them. It boggles my mind why people think these things. It's on the fething level of the people that think genetic engineers control the world and there's sterilants in the water. It's so galactically stupid that I can't possibly fathom how you could ever trust your own judgement after saying, with conviction, 'The United States blew up its own gak with loaded planes'.
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2011/09/09 00:36:12
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Beerfart wrote:I don't see how anyone who actually looks at videos, pictures, photographs, listens to experts, and who can analyse data can actually think that it wasnt a Government Conspiracy.
Two planes didnt cause all that damage.
Two planes crashed Three buildings collapsed demolition-style. Wut?
Open your eyes.
Between this post and your Avatar I have to assume this is some performance art piece, or satire.
Why did building 7 collapse then? Tell me, fires dont cause buildings like that to collapse as if a controlled demolition took place....and it wasnt one of the buildings hit.
All these buildings and the official story is that fire caused supports to collapse....while until now there has NEVER been a case of fire-induced collapse of large fire protected steel buildings.
Noooo....that wasnt controlled.
Soooo... What you're saying is you took a deuce in the urinal.
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2011/09/09 00:48:48
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Ouze wrote:If this was a conspiracy, why haven't these whistleblowers disappeared?
Becuase after the Lizard people stopped giving orders to the Rothschilds and Rockafellers they haven't been nearly as organized. The Lizard people had them coordinate the attack so no one would notice that they replaced all the High Fructose Corn Syrup with Sugar. Without their psychic coordination they have been less able to keep all the loose ends together.
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Deadshane1 wrote:If you dont wanna talk about it, get out.
It's not your forum, you don't get to dictate others actions. Perhaps this lack of control over people and things leads you to want to buy into such silliness.
Deadshane1 wrote:Noone will miss you.
That is just wishful thinking on your part.
Deadshane1 wrote:Yes they did.
No they didn't. It was said that the idea that the government did it was stupid. There is a difference between saying an idea is stupid and saying a person is stupid.
A legitimate discussion would be what causes people to buy into this kind of thing and/or what can we do to get them the help they need.
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2011/09/09 00:58:36
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Beerfart wrote:Why did building 7 collapse then? Tell me, fires dont cause buildings like that to collapse as if a controlled demolition took place....and it wasnt one of the buildings hit.
All these buildings and the official story is that fire caused supports to collapse....while until now there has NEVER been a case of fire-induced collapse of large fire protected steel buildings.
What are your qualifications to make this determination? Have you participated in planning controlled demolitions, been a fire inspector or otherwise investigated building collapses, or have an educational basis in the relevant fields of engineering or physics?
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2011/09/09 01:00:36
Subject: Re:Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I literally cannot think of any fething rational reason why people think the US government crashed planes into its own industrial centers, with civilians on them. It boggles my mind why people think these things. It's on the fething level of the people that think genetic engineers control the world and there's sterilants in the water. It's so galactically stupid that I can't possibly fathom how you could ever trust your own judgement after saying, with conviction, 'The United States blew up its own gak with loaded planes'.
Get your head out of the 40k codex and think on a larger scale.
Money and power is what motivates government, those two things come before the lives of a couple thousand worker bees.
Gamers who are unable to have rational conversation go on the attack.
I thought you guys were supposed to be creative.
What is the point of an Off Topic forum if its not to discuss topics?
Ever heard of generating ideas so that we can converse and learn.
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biccat wrote:
Beerfart wrote:Why did building 7 collapse then? Tell me, fires dont cause buildings like that to collapse as if a controlled demolition took place....and it wasnt one of the buildings hit.
All these buildings and the official story is that fire caused supports to collapse....while until now there has NEVER been a case of fire-induced collapse of large fire protected steel buildings.
What are your qualifications to make this determination? Have you participated in planning controlled demolitions, been a fire inspector or otherwise investigated building collapses, or have an educational basis in the relevant fields of engineering or physics?
He doesnt need to be an expert when everything and everyone online (including demo experts) say that this looks like a controlled demolition.
@Ahtman
Why the heck do you get on forum threads that you're not interested in talking about? What, to derail it? You havent contributed yet.
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Mr. Self Destruct wrote:It's so galactically stupid that I can't possibly fathom how you could ever trust your own judgement after saying, with conviction,.
...and how is this not calling someone "galactically" stupid?
In a nutshell, tell my WHY these theorists are stupid with evidence and reasoning. Not "because they're dumbheads". That's not constructive discussion.
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Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I literally cannot think of any fething rational reason why people think the US government crashed planes into its own industrial centers, with civilians on them. It boggles my mind why people think these things. It's on the fething level of the people that think genetic engineers control the world and there's sterilants in the water. It's so galactically stupid that I can't possibly fathom how you could ever trust your own judgement after saying, with conviction, 'The United States blew up its own gak with loaded planes'.
Get your head out of the 40k codex and think on a larger scale.
Money and power is what motivates government, those two things come before the lives of a couple thousand worker bees.
Arright, let's play this game.
The United States government issued an order to fly planes into the World Trade Center. They tell the president to act like he feels sorry for the people. They make up the story about him reading to the kids before he learned what happened.
And then they declare war on the Middle East several years later. Somehow, they get multiple other countries to participate in this War on Terror, and they forge numbers about dead friendlies and enemies. Everyone is complacent.
So I say to you,
What in the holy mother of feth does that achieve?
You're trying to tell me that they'd do this for money and power? That somehow getting attacked, starting a war, and *getting other countries to cooperate*, with all this evidence of the people that are actually trying to kill every American, with all the attempted attacks that never came to fruition and those we have in Guantanamo Bay, you're trying to tell me that this is all staged?
Yknow what? I'm done. feth this new world order gak. I'm out.
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2011/09/09 01:13:42
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Beerfart wrote:Why did building 7 collapse then? Tell me, fires dont cause buildings like that to collapse as if a controlled demolition took place....and it wasnt one of the buildings hit.
All these buildings and the official story is that fire caused supports to collapse....while until now there has NEVER been a case of fire-induced collapse of large fire protected steel buildings.
What are your qualifications to make this determination? Have you participated in planning controlled demolitions, been a fire inspector or otherwise investigated building collapses, or have an educational basis in the relevant fields of engineering or physics?
He doesnt need to be an expert when everything and everyone online (including demo experts) say that this looks like a controlled demolition.
Ah, he's relying on an outside expert. Can you provide a source?
And assuming your sources say it "looks like a controlled demolition," the next question we have to ask is "are there uncontrolled demolitions that look like controlled demolitions?".
Remember also that the WTC7 collapse was after everything had been evacuated in advance. So even if WTC7 was a controlled demolition it doesn't suggest that the government "did" 9/11. They could have collapsed the building intentionally to prevent further damage.
Even if you show what is alleged (that it looks controlled), it doesn't follow that it was controlled, or that the government had any involvement in the actual attacks that led to the WTC towers collapsing.
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2011/09/09 01:15:58
Subject: Re:Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I literally cannot think of any fething rational reason why people think the US government crashed planes into its own industrial centers, with civilians on them. It boggles my mind why people think these things. It's on the fething level of the people that think genetic engineers control the world and there's sterilants in the water. It's so galactically stupid that I can't possibly fathom how you could ever trust your own judgement after saying, with conviction, 'The United States blew up its own gak with loaded planes'.
Get your head out of the 40k codex and think on a larger scale.
Money and power is what motivates government, those two things come before the lives of a couple thousand worker bees.
Arright, let's play this game.
The United States government issued an order to fly planes into the World Trade Center. They tell the president to act like he feels sorry for the people. They make up the story about him reading to the kids before he learned what happened.
And then they declare war on the Middle East several years later. Somehow, they get multiple other countries to participate in this War on Terror, and they forge numbers about dead friendlies and enemies. Everyone is complacent.
So I say to you,
What in the holy mother of feth does that achieve?
You're trying to tell me that they'd do this for money and power? That somehow getting attacked, starting a war, and *getting other countries to cooperate*, with all this evidence of the people that are actually trying to kill every American, with all the attempted attacks that never came to fruition and those we have in Guantanamo Bay, you're trying to tell me that this is all staged?
Yknow what? I'm done. feth this new world order gak. I'm out.
It acheives a war in the middle east to further certain factions control of the oil resources there.
Mr. Self Destruct wrote:I literally cannot think of any fething rational reason why people think the US government crashed planes into its own industrial centers, with civilians on them. It boggles my mind why people think these things. It's on the fething level of the people that think genetic engineers control the world and there's sterilants in the water. It's so galactically stupid that I can't possibly fathom how you could ever trust your own judgement after saying, with conviction, 'The United States blew up its own gak with loaded planes'.
Get your head out of the 40k codex and think on a larger scale.
Money and power is what motivates government, those two things come before the lives of a couple thousand worker bees.
Arright, let's play this game.
The United States government issued an order to fly planes into the World Trade Center. They tell the president to act like he feels sorry for the people. They make up the story about him reading to the kids before he learned what happened.
And then they declare war on the Middle East several years later. Somehow, they get multiple other countries to participate in this War on Terror, and they forge numbers about dead friendlies and enemies. Everyone is complacent.
So I say to you,
What in the holy mother of feth does that achieve?
You're trying to tell me that they'd do this for money and power? That somehow getting attacked, starting a war, and *getting other countries to cooperate*, with all this evidence of the people that are actually trying to kill every American, with all the attempted attacks that never came to fruition and those we have in Guantanamo Bay, you're trying to tell me that this is all staged?
Yknow what? I'm done. feth this new world order gak. I'm out.
Don't forget about when they told Bin Laden to take credit for planning it.
I'm glad that all that money they did it for was a huge boon to the economy.
Oh, wait...
You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was
2011/09/09 01:17:29
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
Beerfart wrote:Why did building 7 collapse then? Tell me, fires dont cause buildings like that to collapse as if a controlled demolition took place....and it wasnt one of the buildings hit.
All these buildings and the official story is that fire caused supports to collapse....while until now there has NEVER been a case of fire-induced collapse of large fire protected steel buildings.
What are your qualifications to make this determination? Have you participated in planning controlled demolitions, been a fire inspector or otherwise investigated building collapses, or have an educational basis in the relevant fields of engineering or physics?
He doesnt need to be an expert when everything and everyone online (including demo experts) say that this looks like a controlled demolition.
Ah, he's relying on an outside expert. Can you provide a source?
And assuming your sources say it "looks like a controlled demolition," the next question we have to ask is "are there uncontrolled demolitions that look like controlled demolitions?".
Remember also that the WTC7 collapse was after everything had been evacuated in advance. So even if WTC7 was a controlled demolition it doesn't suggest that the government "did" 9/11. They could have collapsed the building intentionally to prevent further damage.
Even if you show what is alleged (that it looks controlled), it doesn't follow that it was controlled, or that the government had any involvement in the actual attacks that led to the WTC towers collapsing.
It's called the internet. Lots of info there. Try it.
I've posted MY theory, I'm still waiting to hear yours. The one that I doubt that you even have.
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Platuan4th wrote:
I'm glad that all that money they did it for was a huge boon to the economy.
Oh, wait...
Another one who missed that day in class....
They don't care about the economy. They care about their own agenda.
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Deadshane1 wrote: Some of us are discussing a serious subject that has emotional content for many people.
Reality shows have emotional content for people, too, doesn't make reality shows any less vapid.
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Beerfart wrote:
Platuan4th wrote: I'm glad that all that money they did it for was a huge boon to the economy.
Oh, wait...
Another one who missed that day in class....
They don't care about the economy. They care about their own agenda.
The economy IS their agenda. That's how governments and businesses gain their money and power. Destroying the economy does nothing to further their "agenda"
Seriously, stop spouting nonsense and actually learn something.
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You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was
2011/09/09 01:21:07
Subject: Another 9/11 Topic: Government Conspiracy? OR Terrorist Attack?
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