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So this has no pictures so I will describe this dont worry it is not a long read I promise.

So the list in rough:
Woc
Some sort of lord on foot with glaive of putrefaction helm of many eyes tali of pres.

Sorcerer lord shadows lvl 4

lvl 2 tz sorcerer
power familiar
something else

One of these had puppet.

50 Mot warriors shields fc rap standard.

50 mok maruaders fc gw.

3x 5 hounds

hellcannon

sorcerer lord and combat lord in warriors unit

lvl 2 in marauders

Tk

100 skeles spears fc light armor and shields i think

2 war sphinx

1 tk armor of silvered steel I think
liche priest tali of pres
prince armor of fortune
necro tek
lvl2 on horse possibly with stuff

9 horsemen

4 charriots

casket of souls

So everything goes in the big skele unit except the priest on horse.

So the spells are all skele ones are the tk lore a few from lore of shadow for warriors and flickering fire and gateway for lvl 2.

Basic battle line.

Looking from behind the chaos lines at the tk from left to right left side 2 war sphinx in the middle the big block of stuff with the casket behind it horses to the right of that with chariots ont the right flank.

Chaos left flank hellcannon left middle marauder block middle middle warrior block right some hounds.

Turn 1 goes to chaos.

Everything shuffles up dogs make sure that if they get charged they will make the units expose their flanks.

Magic 7 or so dice.

5 into gate way at the large skele block rolls 24 with the lvl 2 he throws all 5 of his dispel dice at it rolls like 15 and it goes through.
Rolls a 9 for hits all the chaos supporters are chanting like crazy at this point.
Boom box cars and they called it at that point.
Epic win chaos.
Hope you enjoyed

LMAO....

that spell is so bent and im a chaos player lol

If you ever wanted an example of how WHFB is now a very rock-paper-scissors game this is it. Can't say I blame the Warriors player at all, that was really one of the only ways he was going to kill that unit and its the TK players fault for bringing a list which is really easy to counter.

Honestly? This is a pretty good example of how deathstar builds - giant pointsink unit filled with characters - have inherent weaknesses, besides all the love 8th has given them. There are the tactical shortcomings - it can only fight so many units, and is easily redirected - and then there is the surprising vulnerability to auto-kill or unit-kill spells. Gateway did exactly what it ought to do here: punish the other dude for making himself such an easy, obvious target.

That said, I would have preferred that somehow it was the warrior guy's deathstar that got vaporized in one go. 50 rapturous tizz warriors loaded with characters is pretty disgusting, and in a barely legal army at that (i.e. min 3 units + characters)! Baring LD shenanigans of some kind (LD9 with rerolled panic covers most your bases, but no BSB still seems dicey), I'm pretty sure the skellies would have been rolled if they ever let those warriors hit them ... But without comp to cap off unit sizes I suppose that's what you get

Thanks for the tale, Cowpow

- Salvage

Boss Salvage wrote:Honestly? This is a pretty good example of how deathstar builds - giant pointsink unit filled with characters - have inherent weaknesses, besides all the love 8th has given them. There are the tactical shortcomings - it can only fight so many units, and is easily redirected - and then there is the surprising vulnerability to auto-kill or unit-kill spells. Gateway did exactly what it ought to do here: punish the other dude for making himself such an easy, obvious target.

Hear, hear!

Unfortunately, 8th does push the uber-unit and this could probably have gone the other way, too. I'm probably going to go dual-monstrous infantry hordes for an upcoming tournament, and hope my dispel scroll negates purple sun...

Nice quick rep!

Even amongst the uber spells gateway is still very powerful!

I vaporized a 9 man iron gut unit with firebelly the other night... Nothing changes the expression on your opponents face like clearing half of their army in one round. To be honest, nothing should be that game changing... It ruins all tactical elements of the game and replaces them with a dash of luck.

Pervertdhermit wrote:Even amongst the uber spells gateway is still very powerful!

Fun Fact: I've only auto-vaped two units in my gateway career, and didn't feel bad about one because it was during 'Ard Boyz I actually really dislike gate because of how fickle it is - 2 S2 hits with a nigh mandatory miscast to make it happen is really disappointing, versus flicker or treason which are more likely to cast without having to go IF and have more reliable results. But I understand why gate is considered broken by many: insanely low cast and unclassified loophole allowing it to target anything in 24" (including into combat!) being the big two hits against. I did see a pretty solid GT tweak recently where if you roll S11-12, then just the 2D6 worth of hits in models is auto-removed. Still strong, but leaves less bad tastes in mouths, and keeps gate from being the unit killer that it isn't (2D6 hits I find is rarely worth it unless you're feeling like the auto-die is on the way).

- Salvage

Well let's not fret! Every new book that comes out will most likely contain a super direct damage or vortex spell! So the gods only know what more shenanigans we will be in store for in the future releases

Sorry there was a bsb in the chaos warioes too.
They re did the game after tho ( I didn't see all of it) and it eneded in a fatty grind fest in which the hc killed a sphinx in cc the lord made the other sphinx str and toughness 2 and ya just a silly grind fest tbh.

I hope everyone got a little laugh out of that or atleast a smile
On a sde note they were both jut trying out something different for a fun game.

The only time I've gotten the remove-a-unit gateway off was also in 'Ard Boyz... in a game that I got massacred and that was the only unit I killed, and only my lone caster survived the game.

Needless to say, I didn't feel all that bad about it

Haha nice

I have gotten it off with 11 twice never with 12.
First was against a bret questing or grail knight unit the really expensive ones which included a lord and a hero.
The guy was telling me how chaos warriors are not as good as any of his knights so he did deserve that.

The second time was against a HE player um 60 man spear men lvl4 general and bsb I think (the mage for sure and it was the gen and or the bsb).

But then again I have also rolled snake eyes for my str so hey it dosnt happen all the time but its nice when it does happen.