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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 07:38:57
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Since we keep arguing over this in non-related threads, let's put it all here.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 07:43:03
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Imperium would win, cause of sheer numbers.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:In the grim darkness of the far future, the guy with a rifle is the weakest man on the battlefield, left to quake in terror, hoping the two or three shots he gets do the job before somebody runs screaming across the battlefield to hit him with an energized stick.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440996.page
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 07:46:06
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Quite right, but let's give details. And that would be obvious since they would only dare attack while our backs are turned, the cowards. Even the CSM have honor, fighting face to face.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 07:52:48
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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CSM attack face on? Apart from in a massive black crusade, when does that happen? Usually they work behind the scenes, manipulating cultists and renegades, or strike at weakly defended outposts or convoys. CSMs certainly don't fight with honour.
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Imperial Fists - 10,000pts Daemons - 8000pts Hive Fleet Moloch - 10,000pts
Black Templars - 4000pts Goff Orks - 8000pts Death Guard - 3500pts
Dark Angels - 4000pts World Eaters - 3000pts Alaitoc Craftworld - 8000pts
Space Wolves - 4000pts Black Legion - 9000pts Heretics & mutants - 2000pts
Grey Knights - 4000pts Dark Eldar - 5000pts Cadian Imperial Guard - 5000pts
Tau - 4000pts Catachan Imperial Guard - 1000pts Necrons - 7000pts
Blood Angels - 4000pts Biel-tan Craftworld - 2000pts Eldar Corsairs - 1000pts
Agents of the Imperium - 1500pts
Imperial Knights - 2000pts Death Watch - 1500pts
Adeptus Mechanicus - 3000pts Harlequins - 1000pts Genestealer Cult - 2000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 07:54:11
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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*sits back with some popcorn, and watches*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 07:56:42
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Are we talking like the Imperium's full might here? The Tau would get steamrolled. There simply aren't that many of them; only a handful of planets compared to the millions of millions of Imperial worlds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 07:56:43
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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monkeypuzzle wrote:CSM attack face on? Apart from in a massive black crusade, when does that happen? Usually they work behind the scenes, manipulating cultists and renegades, or strike at weakly defended outposts or convoys. CSMs certainly don't fight with honour.
Let me clarify. Khornates. My mistake. Either it's because Khorne doesn't like tricks, or they're too far gone with bloodlust to think. Or maybe both.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:04:55
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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I'd like to see another full blown crusade into Tau space in new fluff though.
Not a huge 40k fiction reader. Have there been any other notable wars fought with the Tau?
I suppose Taros might be considered one, but I was wondering more along the lines of massive multi-system campaigns..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:06:15
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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No, I don't think so. But if there's a new campaign against the Tau, them damn the cost of importing. I'm building an army and I'm gonna kick xenos ass. Or bust heads. Either way will work.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:27:43
Subject: Re:The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tau:
Strenghts: (a) Rapid technological adaptation and (b) high levels of societal organisation/focus.
Weakness: (i) Inferior absolute numbers and (ii) technological deficits in key areas (e.g. Warp travel).
Imperium:
Strenghts: (c) Superiour absolute numbers and (d) more advanced technology in key areas (e.g. Warp travel).
Weakness: (iii) Very slow technological adaptation and (iv) high level of societal fragementation/disunity.
Status Quo:
Strengths and Weaknesses of the two factions basically balance each other out. Eternal war continues with neither side ever truly winning.
Hypothetical:
If either faction overcomes its weaknesses without sacrificing its strenghts while the other faction remains unchanged, said faction would likely win the conflict decidedly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:29:27
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Tadashi wrote:No, I don't think so. But if there's a new campaign against the Tau, them damn the cost of importing. I'm building an army and I'm gonna kick xenos ass. Or bust heads. Either way will work.
You're going to start a 40k army (Blood Ravens presumably), damning the importation costs that were preventing you from collecting it in the first place, just so you can take part in any fictional crusade against the Tau on the tabletop?
You're either extremely xenophobic, an Imperialist fanboy, or both. Either way, you're one hell of a devoted guy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:30:32
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Your post assumes they have forces of relatively equal size. The full might of the Imperium wouldn't be Rocky vs. Apollo Creed, it would be an ant vs. a sledgehammer. The Tau are a VERY small race in the scheme of 40k. Humanity is described as having "millions of millions of world" and "to be a man in such times is to be a man of untold billions" while the Tau just control a few planets in the Eastern Fringe. The Tau would not stand a chance against the Imperium in all their might.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:32:29
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Ronin wrote:Tadashi wrote:No, I don't think so. But if there's a new campaign against the Tau, them damn the cost of importing. I'm building an army and I'm gonna kick xenos ass. Or bust heads. Either way will work.
You're going to start a 40k army (Blood Ravens presumably), damning the importation costs that were preventing you from collecting it in the first place, just so you can take part in any fictional crusade against the Tau on the tabletop?
You're either extremely xenophobic, an Imperialist fanboy, or both. Either way, you're one hell of a devoted guy.
The latter. And yes, it's probably gonna be a Blood Ravens army. Automatically Appended Next Post: Brother SRM wrote:Your post assumes they have forces of relatively equal size. The full might of the Imperium wouldn't be Rocky vs. Apollo Creed, it would be an ant vs. a sledgehammer. The Tau are a VERY small race in the scheme of 40k. Humanity is described as having "millions of millions of world" and "to be a man in such times is to be a man of untold billions" while the Tau just control a few planets in the Eastern Fringe. The Tau would not stand a chance against the Imperium in all their might.
Small wonder the Tau only dare confront the Imperium when the Imperium's back is turned. Like the 13th Black Crusade for instance.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:39:26
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Brother SRM wrote:Your post assumes they have forces of relatively equal size. The full might of the Imperium wouldn't be Rocky vs. Apollo Creed, it would be an ant vs. a sledgehammer. The Tau are a VERY small race in the scheme of 40k. Humanity is described as having "millions of millions of world" and "to be a man in such times is to be a man of untold billions" while the Tau just control a few planets in the Eastern Fringe. The Tau would not stand a chance against the Imperium in all their might.
True. But the "if" of " if the Imperium would focus all its might on a single enemy" is about as likely as the "if" of " if the Tau suddenly, miraculously expanded to the size of the Imperium in numbers and resources". So things are pretty much even in the given Status Quo. If you start being hypothetical, you can make either factions win or loose depending on what hypothetical change you introduce to the equation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:40:45
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Tadashi wrote:The latter. And yes, it's probably gonna be a Blood Ravens army.
Well you should know that being an Imperialist fanboy = extremely xenophobic in most cases. The sight of my Eldar Farseer forum avatar must fill you with rage, for the Emperor.
Tadashi wrote:Small wonder the Tau only dare confront the Imperium when the Imperium's back is turned. Like the 13th Black Crusade for instance.
Tau dont make an active decision to only expand when the Imperium is against them. They're always expanding, and looking to extend the reach of their Empire. They were able to make their 3rd Sphere expansion, not because they attack the Imperium's back per se, but because the Imperium could not allocate as much resources to stopping their expansion as before. There is a subtle difference, I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:46:39
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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No. I have a great deal of respect for the Eldar. Strangely enough, I just can't hate the Eldar to the same degree as the Tau. Probably because the Eldar aren't naive and are, well, as grimdark as the Imperium. And the Orks, well, they strike me as very funny for some reason.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:53:18
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Because on top of being a genetically-bred warrior race, the Orks were also made to be the galaxy's most deadliest comic relief.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:54:22
Subject: Re:The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Produce stick..beat dead equine carcass.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 08:56:52
Subject: Re:The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Produce stick..beat dead equine carcass.
I have no idea what that means...
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 09:19:37
Subject: Re:The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tadashi wrote:I have no idea what that means...
It means that the search-function of this forum should, whenever possible, be used before starting new threads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 09:22:36
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Oh.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 12:17:54
Subject: Re:The Imperium vs. the Tau
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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We keep arguing over this in the numerous Imperium vs Tau threads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 18:05:39
Subject: Re:The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Tau would win, and the Imperium would leave because of a "disturbance" elsewhere.
Why? Because they still sell Tau.
All of the Imperium against all the Tau would be a campaign that lasts about 5 hours. With an obvious Imperial Victory.
And Tau do not attack the Imperium when it's back is turned. They do not know of the Current events outside of the Empire and the planets that are in Negotiation to join the Empire.
They most likely never knew of the Black Crusade or the Cadian Gate, and probably never will. They are always just trying to expand (well that's a lie. They aren't working on the 4th expansion yet because of the events on Medusa. They couldn't get enough info on the warp storm or warp travel and decided to put off the next expansion for the time being while they hammer that out.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 19:01:21
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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JohnnoM wrote:Imperium would win, cause of sheer numbers.
This x 10.000.000.000.000....
There is no way that Tau, no matter what tech it had, can withstand an entire might of Imperial Crusade ( am I talking about a crusade size of Solar Macharious one ). Automatically Appended Next Post: Iur_tae_mont wrote:
And Tau do not attack the Imperium when it's back is turned.
Not at all....they just wait until Imperium draw some forces from the area and then attack with full might against few defenders.
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 19:09:16
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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It'd be like if Russia invaded Sweden. Sure, one side is technologically advanced, enlightened, sophisticated...but they still wouldn't stand a chance.
inb4 Winter War
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Ever thought 40k would be a lot better with bears?
Codex: Bears.
NOW WITH MR BIGGLES AND HIS AMAZING FLYING CONTRAPTION |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 19:13:01
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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The most probably thing that can happen to Tau would be a GIGANTIC Tyranid fleet noming their entire empire. While Calgar seat in orbit and eat Emperor's popcorn...
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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2
Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
Ronin wrote:
"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 19:46:09
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Brother Coa wrote:The most probably thing that can happen to Tau would be a GIGANTIC Tyranid fleet noming their entire empire. While Calgar seat in orbit and eat Emperor's popcorn...
Well, given Calgar's abysmal performance against the Tyranids ( and the fact that this time there is no 200 ships warfleet around to save his precious, metalic butt ) i would rather think that he runs as fast as his mechanical legs can carry him before the Nids finish what they started two hundred years ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 22:56:46
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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While we can take some real-world examples of small, technologically-inferior groups defeating much larger, more advanced groups, the important distinction in these cases is that the larger group was not practicing what the Imperial Guard practices, which is the philosophy of "total war".
The IG does not worry about body count. The IG does not worry about what the "folks back home" think of the war. The IG does not worry about war crimes or inhumane acts or any other such thing that our modern nations contend with in the theater of war. When the IG goes into fight a war, it goes in 100% and seeks to establish superiority (with the assistance of the Imperial Navy of course) over all facets of the conflict. Artillery domination, air superiority, massive mobilization and control of the ground, establishment of secured supply lines, disruption, destruction and then subordination of enemy communication grids.
The only thing that saved the Tau the last time was the appearance of a Hive Fleet, which required the re-deployment of the Damocles Gulf Crusade to combat. Had that not happened, the Tau would be nothing but a foot-note in Imperial history.
Don't get me wrong, I like the Tau, even if their naivety is a bit... silly... but, as I and others have said in all of these debates, there's simply not enough of them. Even with their Kroot and Vespid allies. There's not enough of any of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/24 23:52:04
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Not to mention the Astartes. The Sword of the Emperor will cut the Tau to pieces. And the Astartes have managed to use the Tau's own maneuver war tactics against them. If the Tau like ambushing and outflanking the Imperial Guard, the Astartes will show them that the Imperium can do it too. The Astartes EXCEL in maneuver warfare.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/25 00:05:19
Subject: The Imperium vs. the Tau
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tadashi wrote:Not to mention the Astartes. The Sword of the Emperor will cut the Tau to pieces. And the Astartes have managed to use the Tau's own maneuver war tactics against them. If the Tau like ambushing and outflanking the Imperial Guard, the Astartes will show them that the Imperium can do it too. The Astartes EXCEL in maneuver warfare.
The Astartes lack the numbers for any kind of serious warfare on their own. They most certainly have their uses ( spearheads, special operations and the like )
but if you think that a few companies of spacemarines are sufficient to combat the Tau Empire's usual advantage of greater mobility and ( usualy ) firepower then you are most certainly mistaken. Elysian/ Harakoni regiments or even just vehicle mounted infantry, which can bring considerable firepower in far greater numbers without sacrificing mobility would be the wiser choice.
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