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Librarian w/ Jump Pack, Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinius - 125

10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Death Company, Powerfist, Drop Pod - 260
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160

Furioso Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170

Dreadnought w/ MM & ML, Drop Pod - 145
Dreadnought w/ MM & ML, Drop Pod - 145
Dreadnought w/ MM & ML, Drop Pod - 145

Total - 1850


Should the heavy support dreadnoughts have drop pods? My thought was that giving it to them would give the opponent no targets on turn 1 (i.e. nothing on the table) and then let them drop within multi-melta range to open up transports for the frag cannons to barbeque the contents.

Without drop pods for them, I could fit in another assault squad at 2k:


Librarian w/ Jump Pack, Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinius - 125

10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Death Company, Powerfist, Drop Pod - 260
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160

Furioso Dreadnought w/ Talons, Magna Grapple, Drop Pod - 175
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170

Dreadnought w/ 2 x TL AC - 120
Dreadnought w/ 2 x TL AC - 120
Dreadnought w/ 2 x TL AC - 120

Total - 2000


I could also drop the magna grapple and one of the heavy flamers (or change a TL AC back to a MM) to get a powerfist into one of the assault squads.

I've made up similar lists with scouts to hold objectives but I like the idea of the assault squads better. They could combat squad for an objective mission to give me some hope in that regard .

The deep-striking Librarian with Blood Lance, and all the meltaguns supported by the heavy support dreadnoughts should be able to open up tanks. Then blood talons to try to mow through some infantry!

Thoughts appreciated

With the first list make all the furioso the same 160p with claws instead of 170p , and use that 20p for equipment on the death company as they only have a fist. but other then that i like like it!

I would drop the ML on the Heavy dreads. MM, DCCW. I think is the way to go there. Keep them in Dp's. 5 pods coming down first turn is pretty nice.

I also would switch the DC into another Assalt marine squad. They will be able to hold an objective, you would get 2 more meltas.

I like the Frag cannon and Hf dreads. Nice for horde armies.

I was wondering about that! The DCCW would probably make sense if they're in the pods. Would give me enough points for a Magna Grapple, which I would Really like to have in the list

Librarian w/ Jump Pack, Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinius - 125

10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Death Company, Powerfist, Drop Pod - 260
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160

Furioso Dreadnought w/ Talons, Magna Grapple, Drop Pod - 175
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170

Dreadnought w/ MM & Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM & Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM & Fist, Drop Pod - 140

Total - 1850

I really want to try this out!

As far as dropping the death company, I'd love to, but I need 5 death company models for every death company dreadnought. So if I drop any, I'd have to drop a dreadnought, too.

Oh yeah totally forgot about that part. Duh! Well looks like a very fun and dangerous list.

Good luck with it.

Thanks, I'm working towards getting it together!

Any other suggestions?

I like the idea of having some long range threat. Even with dreads you can be outmanoeuvred on landing.

TLAC and even librarian dreads(with shield and wings) would be good to chase down the escaping opponent.

Wow, I did not connect that I could take the wings psychic power on a librarian dreadnought . That's amazing!!

The Death Company Dreadnoughts do have Fleet and so will be able to run and charge.

I want to work in a Librarian Dreadnought, and really I should be able to at 1850 or 2000... will think about it and come up with something here.

Yeah libby dreads in 2k would be awesome.

I think your 1850 is fine the way it is.

Thanks! Still not sure how I'd upgrade it with a libby dread for 2k. Perhaps take the below list, turn one of the Frag Cannon dreads into a Libby (+40 points) leaving 110 left. Enough for an Assault squad with meltagun, or perhaps a unit of sniper scouts with missile launcher and camo cloaks? That would leave me 10 leftover, perhaps drop the Magna Grapple and get another powerfist with those points (either for the Death Company, or the Assault Marines).

RiTides wrote:Librarian w/ Jump Pack, Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinius - 125

10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Death Company, Powerfist, Drop Pod - 260
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160

Furioso Dreadnought w/ Talons, Magna Grapple, Drop Pod - 175
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod - 170

Dreadnought w/ MM & Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM & Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM & Fist, Drop Pod - 140

Total - 1850

Figured out a 2K list that I'm happier with

Librarian w/ Jump Pack, Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinius - 125

10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Death Company, Drop Pod - 235
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160

Furioso Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Fist, Drop Pod - 160
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Fist, Drop Pod - 160

Dreadnought w/ MM, Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM, Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM, Fist, Drop Pod - 140

Total - 2000

9 pods = 5 pods landing on turn 1. Oh yeah

No powerfists could fit into the list, but I think there are plenty of dreadnoughts for that

It occurred to me that I can put the assault squads in drop pods for the exact same cost as they are currently, and then get 6 pods landing on turn 1. That would be some alpha strike!

Can the librarian (if I drop his jump pack) join one of the assault squads in the pod, assuming I drop a marine?

I may also drop those troops down further to add gear to the death company and the dreadnoughts.

Yes the Libby can join the squad, if room allows him of course.

I think that is a well rounded list. There is a good mount of AT and alot of anti infantry as well.

Awesome, thanks for the tip

You could also drop the Libby and put in a Reculisarch (drop on of the DC member too and add another PW) That way all the DC members get to re roll attack and wound dice on the assault. Not sure if it works with the Dreads but it makes for a nice punch. You loose the shield but you gain a lot of hitting power.

Also if you want to change some stuff up Vanguard Vets can assault the turn they deep strike. It usually gives the other player something to think about instead of shooting up your guys. Makes for a nice distraction

RiTides wrote:Figured out a 2K list that I'm happier with

Librarian w/ Jump Pack, Blood Lance, Shield of Sanguinius - 125

10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Assault Marines, 2 Meltaguns - 210
10 x Death Company, Drop Pod - 235
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Death Company Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160

Furioso Dreadnought w/ Talons, Drop Pod - 160
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Fist, Drop Pod - 160
Furioso Dreadnought w/ Frag Cannon, Fist, Drop Pod - 160

Dreadnought w/ MM, Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM, Fist, Drop Pod - 140
Dreadnought w/ MM, Fist, Drop Pod - 140

Total - 2000

9 pods = 5 pods landing on turn 1. Oh yeah

No powerfists could fit into the list, but I think there are plenty of dreadnoughts for that

That's a pretty solid list! I really like the feel of it. I think you need a Chaplain (either a normal one or a Reclusiarch) with the Death Company for the re-rolls he grants them (to hit AND to wound). It makes them exponentially better, and since they're just throwing normal attacks without re-rolls I think they'll need it. Problem is he obviously won't be able to fit in the Drop Pod they're in, so that's a sticky situation. I just don't think they're going to do much without special weapons or a Chaplain (though I know no less than 10 of them are necessary for the two DC Dreads).

Oh well. Great list though! I might have to give it a try.

Yeah, that's the rub! It seems the only way I can join a Reclusiarch to them and still have them in a transport at 10-strong is to put them in a storm raven or land raider redeemer / crusader. It might not be a bad idea in an armor-heavy list like this, though

I could also give them jump packs (gleaning the points by chopping down the assault squads) if I want to make them crazy expensive but oh-so-scary...

Can a vehicle like a SR/LR benefit from a locator beacon? In a deep-striking list like this it'd be nice to bring it in via DS, if I didn't have to worry about it scattering... and could put some locator beacons on my drop pods for that purpose.

RiTides wrote:Can a vehicle like a SR/LR benefit from a locator beacon? In a deep-striking list like this it'd be nice to bring it in via DS, if I didn't have to worry about it scattering... and could put some locator beacons on my drop pods for that purpose.

They sure can. Anything arriving via Deep Strike can use Locator Beacons. The problem is, even though they're not scattering, having huge vehicles with expensive units inside held back in reserve for who knows how long could be detrimental and it's very expensive.

I really like the all-dread list and I'm not sure a Stormraven/Land Raider is the way to go. This list seems really cool and man, it would be awesome to see some army shots of this once you've got it all. I can already do most of it, I'm just missing five Drop Pods (I have four).

I'm working on getting it together, and will be sure to post pics . I like the all-dreads-and-pods version for armor best, too, and that's what I'll be working towards!!

You could always just put a JP on the Chaplain and use DoA to get him near the DC. The re rolls are just too much to give up!

Mmmmmm this would be sexy on the tabletop.

optimusprime14 wrote:You could always just put a JP on the Chaplain and use DoA to get him near the DC. The re rolls are just too much to give up!

I've thought about this and definitely might try it out... only problem is, they might not come in at the same time :-/

This list looks so fun to play, I would love to try something like this in the future.

Quick question as I don't have the Marine or BA dex can they both run this many dreads?

Apostle Pat wrote:Mmmmmm this would be sexy on the tabletop.

I couldn't agree more. I love your list. Dreads and Drop Pods. I think it would be fun, intimidating, and effective.

Hmmmmm . . . I am really tempted to try your list out. I would need to buy some more dreads


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GiraffeX wrote:This list looks so fun to play, I would love to try something like this in the future.

Quick question as I don't have the Marine or BA dex can they both run this many dreads?

The BA Codex allows a list like this as they have Dreadnoughts in three different FOC slots: Elites, Troops, and Heavy Support. The C:SM not so much.

ChaplainSluder is right- the BA codex has dreadnoughts for heavy support, Furioso and Librarian dreadnoughts for elites, and Death Company dreadnoughts for troops (1 per every 5 Death Company Marines taken).

I have to get all of the dreadnoughts, waiting on Dreamforge to release their smaller version of the Crusader Leviathan to use! Hopefully that will be in January, and get to me in time for me to paint up a 1000 point version of this for the Adepticon team tournament (with a chaplain and death company in drop pod, and 4 dreadnoughts in pods ).

Thats dirty for a team game, is it random partmers or do you get to pick? I might leave out the DC and just go assault marines, you'll be able to get at least 15 marines (maybe 20) and drop pods cost nothing if you remove the jp

The reason for the DC for the team tourney is that they make 1 or 2 dreadnoughts troops- and you have to split the force org chart with your teammates. You have 3 teammates and play 1 game with each, I believe, so most people are taking 1 HQ, up to 3 Troops, 1 Elite, 1 FA, and 1 Heavy.

One person per team can have 2 Elites, or 2 Heavies, etc since then it won't conflict with the others. I'll likely use the 2 Elites slots in order to take to take 2 Furiosos.