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Holy Terra

Dawn of War Soulstorm: who won the campaign?
There are many theories about that subject, most are inaccurate.
Let me present my evidence and opinion.

We know for sure that Blood Ravens lost the campaign, it is said so in DoW II by Cyrus.
Now Cyrus is my evidence number one: he said that he was ON KAURAVA in the time of conflict. If you listen to every other race beside Imperial ones you would hear that they killed ALL Blood Ravens, with Cyrus being alive all non-Imperial factions are written off.

Now who won out of the Imperial ones? Sisterhood or the Imperial Guard?
Sadly, it was the Imperial Guard that won the campaign. As evidence I present Sister of Battle Soulstorm ending video that clearly states that Sisters killed every Guardsman and Marine that survived the campaign after they conquered the system.
Imperial Guard endings for Sisters and Marines clearly states that every Surviving Sister and Marine from the war was patched, treated with respect and SHIFTED TO SEGMENTM COMMAND WHERE THEY HAVE GIVEN THEIR REPORTS THEN THEY WERE RETURNED TO THEIR ORDER/CHAPTER.

This is my theory, every opinion is more them welcome.

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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.


The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?

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Good theory.

But Cyrus is a scout marine and quite a good one, he may have evaded the sisters without them knowing.

Not to say your thoery is wrong though, you could be right.



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Maybe a little bit OT but is there any excuse for Sisters, IG and Astartes to be fighting each other and not be declared heretics after the campaign? Why would they be fighting each other anyway?

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Deathly Angel wrote:Why would they be fighting each other anyway?


Because Relic and GW are slowed.
Their comment was: "All 3 Imperial faction together would be unbeatable."

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For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
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Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.


The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?

Ronin wrote:

"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."

 
   
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Didn't Relic state outright the IG victory was cannon?


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The Mad Tanker wrote:Didn't Relic state outright the IG victory was cannon?


Many people disagree with that.

For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2

Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.


The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?

Ronin wrote:

"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."

 
   
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Brother Coa wrote:
The Mad Tanker wrote:Didn't Relic state outright the IG victory was cannon?


Many people disagree with that.

If Relic state that the IG won then the IG won...
There is nothing to disagree with...

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purplefood wrote:
Brother Coa wrote:
The Mad Tanker wrote:Didn't Relic state outright the IG victory was cannon?


Many people disagree with that.

If Relic state that the IG won then the IG won...
There is nothing to disagree with...


Indeed, it's just sad that IG have to win...

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 LoneLictor wrote:
I like to imagine the Emperor kills so many Orks that he ends up half buried beneath a pile of corpses, with only his head sticking out. A lone grot stumbles across him, and starts choking him.

Then Horus comes across the lone grot, somehow managing to kill the Emperor, and punts it into space.
 
   
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Deathly Angel wrote:Maybe a little bit OT but is there any excuse for Sisters, IG and Astartes to be fighting each other and not be declared heretics after the campaign? Why would they be fighting each other anyway?
Given how the Imperium works with all those independent levels of command, it's not unreasonable, and it has happened before. From how I remember, the Guard regiment refused to surrender operational command to either the Marines or the Sororitas, which (in addition to defying protocol) added to the stigma they already held solely by being present when the warp storm occurred. The Blood Ravens and the Sacred Rose, on the other hand, both insisted on their supposedly superior authority towards each other, which (like many times before in the fluff) resulted in bloodshed here as well. All of this has happened before (Medusa V, Armageddon 3, ...), all of this will happen again.

Apparently, the Sisters were also operating under the aegis or at least side to side with operatives of the Ordo Hereticus (at least that name is dropped in one of the zone descriptions), so yes, it'd be logical to assume that at least the Guard, if not the Blood Ravens themselves, would be declared heretics regardless of whether Selena's contingent was victorious or defeated - however, the Blood Ravens are Marines, so they may still enjoy the exceptional leeway that often protects the Astartes from such fate. The Kauravan Guard regiment, though, does not enjoy such protection, and it'd only be a matter of time until retaliation would occur even if they'd win. I also don't know what Stubbs' reason to refuse deferring to the Marines/Sisters could be; I suppose he thought they're f**ked anyways, assuming that any investigation would see him and his men guilty of heresy by default, so he chose to resist.

As far as the ending goes, I'm not aware that Relic ever stated something, and I believe that any claims are probably theories deduced from a few info snippets in the game's sequel that, over time and by word of mouth, became "Relic said" - much like I often see "GW said" being thrown around when it's not the case. Not that I'd be able to point out any victor myself. But maybe someone will even be able to quote/source Relic or an event from the sequel that clarifies this? I vaguely remember someone saying that the Marine dialogue in DoW2 hinted at the Kaurava campaign involving a lot of casualties for the Blood Ravens, though I cannot recall specifics.
   
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Its all a lie Chaos obviously took the sector and is readying the sytem for the return of the daemon from the first dawn of war game
   
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Have just watched the Sororitas ending claiming that they killed all humans fighting by their side including all Space Marines.
Wow, that is even more ridiculous than the Tau ending.
Now I am sure that no Relic game is even close to being canon, but bending it without any respectl to fit general game mechanics.
Thanks to Brother Coa for pointing this out to me.

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Kroothawk wrote:
Thanks to Brother Coa for pointing this out to me.


You are welcome

For Emperor and Imperium!!!!
None shall stand against the Crusade of the Righteous!!!
Kanluwen wrote: "I like the Tau. I just don't like people misconstruing things to say that it means that they're somehow a huge galactic threat. They're not. They're a threat to the Imperium of Man like sharks are a threat to the US Army."
"Pain is temporary, honor is forever"
Emperor of Mankind:
"The day I have a sit-down with a pansy elf, magic mushroom, or commie frog is the day I put a bolt shell in my head."
in your name it shall be done"
My YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/2SSSR2

Viersche wrote:
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.


The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?

Ronin wrote:

"Brother Coa (and the OP Tadashi) is like, the biggest IoM fanboy I can think of here. It's like he IS from the Imperium, sent back in time and across dimensions."

 
   
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Kroothawk wrote:Have just watched the Sororitas ending claiming that they killed all humans fighting by their side including all Space Marines.
Wow, that is even more ridiculous than the Tau ending.
Now I am sure that no Relic game is even close to being canon, but bending it without any respectl to fit general game mechanics.
Thanks to Brother Coa for pointing this out to me.

Also, remember that this game was by Iron Lore studios, not Relic. The nod to Boreale in Dawn of War 2 was a big joke at their expense.

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As I recall, I was the one who won

Pretty overwhelmingly too


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