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Kaine Larson wrote:
Thanks... The KS is going to start in the first week or second week of September depending on the last minute stuff getting done.

I'm going to be hitting the other forums this week for the first time!

Does anyone have any good ideas about where else I should introduce the KS?

wamp

 Malkaven wrote:

Kaine Larson wrote:
Thanks... The KS is going to start in the first week or second week of September depending on the last minute stuff getting done.

I'm going to be hitting the other forums this week for the first time!

Does anyone have any good ideas about where else I should introduce the KS?

wamp

What is that?

 Alpharius wrote:

 Malkaven wrote:

Kaine Larson wrote:
Thanks... The KS is going to start in the first week or second week of September depending on the last minute stuff getting done.

I'm going to be hitting the other forums this week for the first time!

Does anyone have any good ideas about where else I should introduce the KS?

wamp

What is that?

painting focused forum/community.

Thanks a lot guys. Really appreciated...

The goblin sculpt from a few pages back has me paying attention here again. Were there any other sculpts shown in this thread that I missed? I did see a digital sculpt last page, are you doing a mix of traditional and digital sculpting, or is the goblin a 3d print, etc?

I guess the thing I'd be most concerned with is whether or not you are experienced enough to take into account the stringent requirements for a model to be injection moldable. Can you comment on that?

All the sculptors are very much aware of this issue. The 3d prints will be going to Renedra where me, the manufacturer and sculpter will be going over each piece to make sure there are no undercuts. The prints done thus far have already gone to Renedra and they are more than happy with the results thus far with only one or two issues to be ironed out.

The sculpt of the Goblin is a traditional sculpt. We have a nice mix of both going on here. Originally we were going for traditional sculpts but some the digital sculpts and sculptors changed this. The Goblin sprue will be 3d rendered but much of the metals will be sculpted traditionally. One thing we have opted for is that we are minimising the amount of sculptors working on each faction to make sure that there is consistency.

Just to show you the sculpts so far:






The Goblin Skulk is being scuplted at the moment along with some additional sprue stuff for the Zombies. One of the renders of the Goblin plastics will also be done soon.

I didn't realize you'd already gone over some prints with Renedra and have them involved. That is excellent! I'll totally be in for some goblins if things continue in this manner.

I'm glad to hear it. I like to think we have done this project in the right way. I'm new to this but I have spent a year making sure everything is right in regard to costings, manufacturing information, design etc. I just hope I can get everything else done in this final few weeks. Eeeeek!!!

 RiTides wrote:
I didn't realize you'd already gone over some prints with Renedra and have them involved. That is excellent! I'll totally be in for some goblins if things continue in this manner.

'Tides, you do realise there's golems involved here don't you....?

And if there's one thing we know for sure, it is that Rhode Islanders love them some Golems!

Just another quick question on pricing. Some of the models will be free when it comes to the SG's but some will be addons that can be purchased from the addon store. For example, the Zombie Hulk, at 65mm high and made of high quality resin, what price would you say would be a good price for a KS? I have already put a price on this dude but I would like to hear the communities view. Please bear in mind that this will be a KS rate so slightly discounted from retail.

Just in case you have forgotten what he looks like!!

Id be Hoping there'd be a buy 1 for 3 option on the hulks

HAHA...I've got to make some money somewhere!

I don't know if this is a reasonable comparison for you, Kaine, as you run a smaller operation, but I can tell you that Mantic priced it's Goblin Stuntbots, large Mech units cast in resin, at $20 during the campaign. Suggested retail price on them now is $34.99, and they run about $28 through online discounters.

I don't know how tall the Stuntbots are as they're yet to be released, but they come with 60mm bases.

On the higher end, Studio McVey's resin-cast Phaedrus Chirurge comes on a 50mm base, is 47mm high, and is priced (without any discount) on their store at 20 pounds. That model hasn't been featured in a kickstarter campaign (yet), so I couldn't say what McVey's discount for it would be.

Maybe a better point of comparison would be Mierce miniatures, if anyone here has experience with their KS campaigns? I know those run higher with "boutique" type pricing.

I was realistically thinking that the £20 mark would be ok. Theres lots and lots of freebies with each SG hit so I think £20 would be reasonable. It will end up being about the size of a dreadnaught from 40k I think. The Flesh Golems and Bugbear Brute will be around the £15 mark. They are more like GW minotaurs in size. I think people are going to be surprised by the size of the Zombie Hulk!

Actually I got the price wrong. The Hulk and Bugbear Ironshield will be £18 with the Bugbear Brute and Flesh Golem being £15.

Those prices sound more than fair, especially for solid blocks of resin. With such good prices, I can see this going big if you get the coverage (which it seems like you are, with the interaction on here. Are you doing the same on other forums?)

Kaine Larson wrote:
I was realistically thinking that the £20 mark would be ok. Theres lots and lots of freebies with each SG hit so I think £20 would be reasonable. It will end up being about the size of a dreadnaught from 40k I think. The Flesh Golems and Bugbear Brute will be around the £15 mark. They are more like GW minotaurs in size. I think people are going to be surprised by the size of the Zombie Hulk!

Actually I got the price wrong. The Hulk and Bugbear Ironshield will be £18 with the Bugbear Brute and Flesh Golem being £15.

Your prices sound very reasonable, if Mierce is a good comparison. I just looked at one of their campaigns. Here are their prices for Thorrir, Troll Konungr (60mm base, 60mm tall):

Discounted gold level: 28 pounds
Discounted bronze level: 32 pounds
RRP: 35 pounds

Not yet. Dakka was always going to be my testing ground s I am familiar with it. I've never really been a forum bunny before doing this and I have to say I was ready for serious backlash. I have been somewhat surprised at how accommodating and helpful everyone has been! I will be hitting the other forums next week. We will be having a huge amount of coverage from a certain distributor, Facebook advertising and we hope to have the You Tube video up and running in the next fortnight. Other than that if you have any other ideas about areas I can hit I am all ears... particularly the other side of the pond!


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The one thing I don't want to do is appear expensive. The prices at retail will go up for sure but at the KS level I am trying to make it as competitive as possible. The prices I have given are just ideas at the moment. I am working with my accountant to make sure the figures work as they should so they may deviate by a couple of quid but that's all. I think the Zombie Hulk and the Ironshield should be more than a match size wise for that charming looking fellow.

That is a nice looking bit of concept art though isn't it... I might have to get me one of them!

A few things you've probably considered, but just in case:

Forums, Facebook, Twitter. Be prepared to act on feedback, but also to stick to what you have in mind (looks like you've got the hang of this balance already)

Get gameplay videos up if you can, even if it is on cardboard terrain with proxy minis, people will want to see how the game plays.

Produce simple forum signature banners that link to the KS, so people on here can advertise for you!

Contact anyone who might be able to give you publicity! I know Mantic sometimes spread the word about other Kickstarters on their blog. I think Beasts of War also like showing off new stuff.

Hope that helps.

those prices sound fair to me assuming the models are good quality. Infamy is charging 17gbp (14 if you above their 150gbp pledge) for an x-large model. I'm not entirely sure on how large that is but I'm guessing that its fairly comparable in size since there standard is 32mm. Their quality is top notch in my book.

Certainly does...thanks for the assistance.

You certainly have my attention with your concepts and sculpts. I am very happy with the prices, the only reason i didn't back any of the Miecie Miniatures KS was the extortionate prices!

I do love golems although a "flesh golem" doesn't fit my usual categories (troll/earth/stone). I really like the goblin faces, though, so even without a fitting golem I will likely be in for something

Take your time, as you have been, and get everything you can taken care of upfront! Talking to Renedra is what has me following this now- so many miniatures startups show art, sculpts... and then try to figure out how the heck they're going to make it, often invalidating all of their prior work.

That's exactly what Renedra said. One bloke asked them to tool a sprue in two weeks!!! Renedra have told me I'm doing everything right and we are both looking forward to making this a big success. The only issue I am going to have is a lack of sculpts. I should have 3ups of one of the goblins and two of the zombies, we will also have the Headcleaver and the goblin skulk along with the flesh golem. Everything else will be supported by art work etc. unfortunately this is the best I can do as my bank account is running low!! This game is all about planning and I have made sure since the very beginning that I will be prepared. Let's just hope it goes according to plan!!!

I find the fact that the starter box will be two different traditionally "evil" races to be very interesting and refreshing.

The prices you listed for large resin models seem to be in line with other manufacturers, so they shouldn't strike a wrong chord.

Will you have pledge levels to get just zombies or just goblins? A buy in for a box or two of one or the other at some price point lower than the "sweet spot" is usually a good way to get people to pledge who may be on the fence about going "all in." or who want to wait and see what things look like before committing large amounts of cash.

That's a great question, Gallahad... I was just interested in goblins, so being able to just get one "faction" would be greatly appreciated.

You can mix and match sprues at your leisure.... In any denominations.

Enough talk, more pictures!

Ok, ok, more pics.... my word you lot are demanding

Some variations on the zombie theme. Victor has sculpted an additional head and arm combination on using the same torso and legs. I will hopefully have some more images for you soon. The miniatures have been shown in this pose just to enable you to see them more clearly and there will be more variation of pose when the boxed set is released. Although the models are designed for our own skirmish wargame; Underdeep, I am conscious that many of my creations will be winding their to all manner of mass combat battlefields. With this in mind I plan to make sure that the miniatures can "rank up" properly if desired.







You may also realise that the should pads are still the same. This is because this is a WIP model and they will be modified slightly giving more variation within the sprue.

Edited due lack of reading the above post