Tyranids 2nd Wave Rumours (Actual Updates on Page 29, Pics on Page 31!)

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**Andilus Greatsword**

Surprised I didn't see a topic on this, but at GW the other day, the employees were saying that the Tyranids 2nd wave was pretty much definitely coming in a month or two. They haven't been able to order any Hive Tyrants either, so they say that there will likely be a new kit (with wings perhaps?), and I also mentioned the rumour about a new White Dwarf Tyranid unit that could show up too. GW's site's currently running maintenance so I can't check on the validity of the Hive Tyrant thing, but I'll take their word for it on that.

Anyone able to corroborate on these rumours? I really hope that our 2nd wave his finally arrived!! Figures it'd happen a month after I decide to build myself a Tyrannofex though...

**Chowderhead**

GW Hive Tyrant Page wrote:Availability: No Longer Available

I'll check the rest of the range, as well.

EDIT: Huh. It seems only the Hive Tyrant is unavailable.

**Small, Far Away**

I can only hope that if the nids are getting their 2nd wave, us Space Puppie players shall be blessed with ours.

**Andilus Greatsword**

Eh I play Space Wolves too, and we're not really missing much aside from Thunderwolves and Fenrisian Wolves (maybe some direct order models converted to Finecast like Rune Priests, Iron Priests, etc). Honestly, the Nids need it much more.

**ZacktheChaosChild**

Andilus Greatsword wrote:Eh I play Space Wolves too, and we're not really missing much aside from Thunderwolves and Fenrisian Wolves (maybe some direct order models converted to Finecast like Rune Priests, Iron Priests, etc). Honestly, the Nids need it much more.

Agreed. I'm a little surprised it's taken this long to have them come out. What, the new nids book is almost two years old now?

**puma713**

The other rumor thread here points to Tyranid 2nd wave in February.

**protomane0**

hmmm, sorry to put a downer on the situation, but I appear to be able to place an order on the hive tyrant, plus it wouldnt make sense for them to make it finecast, then a few months later discontinue the model. obviously there's every chance that nids will get a 2nd wave but when was the last time a GW sales assistant new anything about new releases?

**Theduke07**

There's still tyranid armies?

**Nard**

If there is a second wave i doubt it will include the ht. It has only just be released in fine cast. Why would they bother to do that if a New model was being released

**Chowderhead**

protomane0 wrote:plus it wouldnt make sense for them to make it finecast, then a few months later discontinue the model. obviously there's every chance that nids will get a 2nd wave but when was the last time a GW sales assistant new anything about new releases?

They released DE in metal, and then a good month later, replaced it all with Finecast.

**Andilus Greatsword**

Chowderhead wrote:
protomane0 wrote:plus it wouldnt make sense for them to make it finecast, then a few months later discontinue the model. obviously there's every chance that nids will get a 2nd wave but when was the last time a GW sales assistant new anything about new releases?

They released DE in metal, and then a good month later, replaced it all with Finecast.

This. Same with the Grey Knights. On top of that, they might still sell Finecast Tyrants for people who just want one on foot, or who prefer its look for whatever reason (Forge World still sells the 3rd Ed Tyrant afterall).

**Absolutionis**

It may just be a reboxing of the Hive Tyrant with new options for Wings, Swarmlord arms, etc. It doesn't sound too unreasonable aside from the existence of Finecast.

**H.B.M.C.**

A new sprue added to the HT with wings and some more weapons? Mmm... miscast Tyrant wings. Just what the doctor ordered.

**Kroothawk**

The Finecast Hive Tyrant is in stock and usually ships within 24 hours in UK and Germany, but labled "no longer available" in USA. Weird.

Anyway, what is known about the Tyranid 2nd wave is in the other thread. Other than stickmonkey's prediction a year ago and WD editor's announcement of a dual tervigon/WD monster kit.

GD UK (September 2011):

kitch102 wrote:Andrew Kenrick, our wonderful WD editor himself, and one of his colleagues (Phil I think? Not sure, will find his picture and confirm) hinted at a possible Tyranid release. This will not be the fabled 2 wave, but will fill a gap in the codex. However he also said "but then it may not be a gap filler, but an altogether different model with it's rule set to be released in white dwarf". Nid players... don't read too much in to this, there aren't enough facts to get excited about, but equally I don't think someone in the know such as Mr AK would say sometihng's coming when it's not. Again, no dates were hinted at.

Stickmonkey December 2010:

Also, in other rumors, August is being banted about as Tyranid 2nd wave. To include:
Doom blister
Tyrannofex plastic with options to build as Tervigon - unreliable rumor as to the optional build, but I'm throwing it in
Harpy
Tyranid direct only lashwhip bonesword upgrade blister for warriors
"yrmgarll?" direct only genestealer blister...like flashgit model, one pose, direct only.

On the flyer front. Theres a rumor of a thunderbolt fighter in design for plastic...from the sound its very early, and if other rumors are true of a "flyer" WD supplemental release, it would not make that cut.

Stickmonkey March 2011:

There is a bit of speculation in this post so I'm putting in general and not rumors.

Lots of internal rumbling on a 2nd wave of tyranids. I don't have timelines, but expect it to hit before end of year, but after dark eldar releases complete that codex.

First, a new tyrant model is soon to debut. It has options for the swarm lord. It has some slight differences from the current metal, but is basically similar. I do think it stands between an inch or more higher, but not as tall as a trygon. I did not have an existing tyrant to compare. Wings are supposedly in the kit, but I did not see those.

Second, a harpy has been done, and will either be in this release or in the "summer of flyers"

Next for plastic kits the tervigon is finalized. IMO it does not exactly meet the image in the codex, but if you squint it's close. The model is nice and definitely fits the line.

This is where it gets fuzzy. The tyrranofex is not at all shaped or sized IMO like the tervigon model. I did not have them side by side to compare, but lot of Internet speculation these kits would be combined. I don't see it. Some pieces like legs might have dual use, but I didn't see sprue cuts to tell there. If they are one kit, it will surprise me.

No word on mycetic spores... Either way. I would place a bet they are also coming, but I don't know anything solid.

For metals,

There is a doom and parasite sculpted. They look as expected. Doom is fairly dynamic, parasite is a bit bigger than I thought and will likely use the larger skimmer base.

Also someone mentioned old one eye is getting a new sculpt, but I don't know how much faith I place in that one yet.

And a new yrgarll genestealer in metal...think flash gitz

That it for now.

Cheers.
(...)
Tyrant. Plastic.
Parasite. Vyper/wave serpent skimmer base, not flyer base.
Harpy. Flyer base. Harpy is about the size of a Valkyrie.

One thing I did not look closely at is the harpy/tyrant parts comparison. It's possible, though not probable, those might be a shared kit.

Brassangel April 2011:

***UPDATE***

There will apparently be another wave of Tyranids coming soon, possibly a 3rd after that.

A Harpy is supposedly due with the "Summer of Flyers" 40k release, but that's not a part of the wave. This 2nd wave will either be in the fall or winter, and hopefully not pushed back any further. Think of how the Dark Eldar got some wave releases around and during the time of the new Grey Knights release, and expect this wave to be rather quiet alongside either the Tau or Necrons.

The models are said to be:

Tyrannofex/Tervigon (plastic kit - roughly US $50, like the Trygon)
Hive Tyrant/Swarmlord (plastic kit - roughly US $53, like the Dreadknight - if you've seen the size of the Swarmlord in Dawn of War 2: Retribution, you have the right idea...)
The Doom of Malan'tai (either metal, or that new resin/plastic hybrid we've been hearing about)
Special Edition Ymgarl Genestealer (1 mold only, Direct Order only)

Take with enough salt to season pasta water.

**Kilkrazy**

Hopefully it will inspire some new players to get into Tyranids.

Too late for me, though. I would probably have bought them a year ago.

I've already got all the Spods and Tervigons, etc, I want.

**Dysartes**

Kroot, what's with the 2012's in that summary post?

**Riker210**

I'm just about to complete my tyrannofex conversion and winged tyrant one...a bit lame but would be cool to compare models lol.

**Kirasu**

It's about time Nids get their missing models.. One of the glaring holes in the 40k range. As for space wolves, most people who really want thunderwolves *have* them by virtue of excellent 3rd party sculptors. Can't really see a huge need for them considering that 6th ed is around the corner which could make them a lot less effective if they change wound allocation

**-Loki-**

Yeah, the thing with Thunderwolves is there are plenty of good third party models that fit in quite nicely.

There's no Tervigons, Harpies or Tyrannofexes that really fit the Tyranid line, because there's basic anatomical guidelines GW follow for Tyranids that 3rd party sculptors don't - such as always 6 limbs, the amount of carapace plates on the head, the particular look of scything talons, etc. It makes the 3rd party models stick out since they don't actually look like the rest of the army.

The only third part not-Tyranid model that actually fits is the alien spore from maxmini. The carapace plates and talons on the tentacles both look very Tyranid. If GW didn't make a spore model, this would be a perfect replacement.

**Absolutionis**

Even if GW does make a Mycetic Spore model, I'll likely end up getting exclusively that MaxMini model because it's just that amazing.

**Norn King**

Damn, why did I have to sell my nid army?

**Happygrunt**

As much as I want to believe kroot's rumor summary, people keep talking about "summer of fliers" in them. Seeing as last summer was more fantasy then anything else and this summer is supposed to be 6th edition, I don't see these as happening. If nids were connected to the Summer of Fliers, then something has gone horribly wrong.

**Samus_aran115**

The hive tyrant is the only kit that really needs to be replaced, mainly because the darn thing is too delicate in finecast.

I'm guessing everything else will be brand new. Might as well just release a new codex while they're at it

**-Loki-**

Happygrunt wrote:As much as I want to believe kroot's rumor summary, people keep talking about "summer of fliers" in them. Seeing as last summer was more fantasy then anything else and this summer is supposed to be 6th edition, I don't see these as happening. If nids were connected to the Summer of Fliers, then something has gone horribly wrong.

His dates are incorrect - notice he lists posts made in March and April 2012? Unless he's a time traveller, those are from 2011. And they are. The Tyranid second wave - at least the Harpy, was connected to Summer of Fliers, which then disappeared altogether.

Regarding the Hive Tyrant, if they do wings for it, I really hope it (and the Harpy, for that matter) follow the Gargoyle design of the wings taking the top arm and having the wing membrane extend down the side of the body, like a bat. It really makes the Gargoyle plastics stand out.

**Happygrunt**

-Loki- wrote:
Happygrunt wrote:As much as I want to believe kroot's rumor summary, people keep talking about "summer of fliers" in them. Seeing as last summer was more fantasy then anything else and this summer is supposed to be 6th edition, I don't see these as happening. If nids were connected to the Summer of Fliers, then something has gone horribly wrong.

His dates are incorrect - notice he lists posts made in March and April 2012? Unless he's a time traveller, those are from 2011. And they are. The Tyranid second wave - at least the Harpy, was connected to Summer of Fliers, which then disappeared altogether.

No, I knew the dates were wrong. The rumors still don't hold water.

**-Loki-**

Well, considering I was keeping up with the rumours back then, Tyranids definitely were tied to the Summer of Fliers release. One of the rumours was the Harpy would get updated rules when it was released with other fliers for other armies.

They second wave rumours were tied to Summer of Fliers primarily because of the Harpy.

**Harriticus**

Can't wait for a Tyrannofex and Harpy. Tervigons have some independent conversions out already that are fairly satisfying though.

**-Loki-**

Eh, the only satisfying conversion I've seen for the Tervigon that doesn't look like a Carnifex with boobs or a Carnifex/Trygon hybrid is the one that used the Arachnorock as the base. But there's no way I'll pay $180au for a Tervigon, no matter how awesome it looks.

**DarthSpader**

ben unable to purchase hive tyrant here at all. stores are out and unable to order more of them (either finecast or pewter) and acording to the rep they are OOP. this might indicate a re release? no idea on the harpy or other beasties though.

but after bits ordering 3 arachnorik spider bases and such for tervigons ill be choked if they release an actual model for it.

**tetrisphreak**

I'm excited for this release, if it's true, just to see what the kits look like.

I'm curious if there's a chance the White Dwarf unit we're getting is some sort of bio-tank transport, maybe a Tyranid with an armor value or ultra-high toughness that can transport others across the field. Another cool idea would be a tervigon variant that can produce Hormagaunts instead of termagants. I think that would cause me to buy 2 or 3 of them because Hormagaunts rock in CC.