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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 19:00:27
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Ive been working on this guy most of this afternoon, and heres the progress so far
I Like him, but for some reason, he feels... lacking. I feel like there is something i am missing, or something i can do to make him better.
SO, i turn to you, Dakka. Give me ideas to improve. Gibbly bits, like that ork skull bit i managed to get my grubby mits on? maybe more weapons?
I welcome any ideas to improve him.
also.... its a little late to replace the head. I kinda fethed up on that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 19:03:14
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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1st Lieutenant
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As a World Eaters Lord maybe you might wanna pose him more dynamically? Maybe leaping off that outcropping into battle or holding the freshly severed head of an enemy general? Also, the arms seem to go 2 different directions and the head a third, now you said it's too late to do anything w/ the head which I take to mean it's glued in place in such a way it aint comin off. That being said, think about re-posing one or both arms to create a fluidity of motion between the arms, the head, the legs to create a single flowing pose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 19:13:37
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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If i could repose his legs into running, i might be able to do something like having both arms raised and have him lunging forward off the rock. might that work?
at this point, the only thing glued is the torso front and back, with the head and trophy racks glued on. everything else is removable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 19:36:20
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
The oceans of the world
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Maybe make his trophy rack bigger as he is a lord, and is world eaters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 20:36:08
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Fighter Ace
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If you've played DoW 1 you might know that occasionally the CSMs might do some weird spasm thing where they're all shaking and their arms are like arched and their heads look to the sky. It looks real crazy and would fit this guy. You should look it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 20:38:45
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Swamp Troll
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I would alter the head a little and maybe add some poor bystander who fell to his fury.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 20:41:26
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Cutthroatcure wrote:I would alter the head a little and maybe add some poor bystander who fell to his fury.
Unfortunately his head is glued in.
Is there anything you had in mind?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 21:44:30
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Even though the head is glued in, you shold be able to remove it, with a little care - I'm just not very fond of that face. It looks too cartoony.
I think running legs would be just the ticket. The good news is that the terminator lord is actually pretty easy to convert into that. With a little cutting and pinning, you should be able to produce a nice running pose. Look at poses of real runners to get the pose right, and remember to swivel the torso a bit - a runners torso turns from side to side, depending on which leg is first.
I love the arms - I've been thinking about getting those myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 22:04:37
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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GuitaRasmus wrote:Even though the head is glued in, you shold be able to remove it, with a little care - I'm just not very fond of that face. It looks too cartoony.
I think running legs would be just the ticket. The good news is that the terminator lord is actually pretty easy to convert into that. With a little cutting and pinning, you should be able to produce a nice running pose. Look at poses of real runners to get the pose right, and remember to swivel the torso a bit - a runners torso turns from side to side, depending on which leg is first.
I love the arms - I've been thinking about getting those myself.
Hmm, i can attempt to swap out the head for the fantasy skull helm, but im not sure how thats gonna work out.
The arms were worth every penny. Unfortunately they came with the lightning claws extremely bent out of shape but it was easy to fix.
I think Tyberos's body is gonna become a Thousand Sons sorcerer. Im not sure yet
edit : took alot of work but i got the head out with a knife, Since i have no located the Fantasy WoC skull head im going to mod that to fit in.
How would i make a lunging pose? (sort of like he is lunging off the rock) would running work out better?
The thought that crossed my mind was leaping off the rock with both arms up to attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/29 22:20:32
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Use a running pose, but tilt the model forward and have one arm further forward than the other...I think that would create a lunging pose...check with others here first of course
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 00:04:35
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Dakka Veteran
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if you have the champion head bit from the csm box, cut the horns and put them on the head, i have taken to doing that, to give my chaos khorn lords unique head aperances.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 00:28:39
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Sneaky Kommando
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I know people have said to pose him more dynamically and all but honestly I would try the opposite, see how it looks with his hands down at his sides, relaxed almost, think of it this way: In a room full of screaming, bloodthirsty World Eaters the most menacing one is the quite guy
The model itself definitely shows hes in charge though, i would think how much he stands out from this point on is less in the pose and more in the paint job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 00:33:08
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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I think it looks pretty good, though it's hard to judge from this angle. A shot from directly in front might help.
One simple tweak which often helps is to line up the head so the model's gaze matches where one of his arms is pointing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 02:33:38
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Take off the base and put the hands lowered. Less is more.
Remember that even though the model might not look too agressive, the paintjob can make it seem much more than what it is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 17:25:35
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Swamp Troll
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I would go with Guita and make it more Dynamic, Pick your least favorite faction, Paint a Marine up and then tear that F****** apart and splatter him across your base. This is Chaos, a brutal conniving wicked caring lot who will tear anything (Except puppies) apart.
Also to those wanting the character to seem more quiet, he is a World Eater not a word bearer. This guy loves to scream and kill...He should be doing both in his pose.
I would pop that head off and try that part again because the head does him no justice IMO>
Hope I helped some!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 18:41:44
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Here is version 2. I thought i would try the more relaxed pose before i take a saw to his legs.
Swapped the head (there is a dimple in the top, abit of my feth up while trying to make it fit. Im new and learning as i go.
He looks imposing, but too... basic. I think i might try make him more dynamic like has been suggested, but I have never reposed anything before. im worried about messing up and losing the legs, thereby losing the model, as i cant really afford another lord kit.
Random idea : give him a spacer between the torso and legs to give him just that little bit of extra height to make him stand out more in a termi sqaud.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:03:14
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Scuttling Genestealer
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He needs some Khorne markings. Not too sure about anything else that it needs.You could always look to Forgeworld for inspiration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:04:47
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Version 2 is better, but I think the only thing that jars for me is the positioning of the head. I don't think it looks right facing forward, try facing it left or right. If facing forward I'd suggest moving the model further forward on the base and have him looking down; that would really make him look menacing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:14:01
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Swamp Troll
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you could add other pieces to make him look dynamic and avoiding any cutting. Like skewer a IG on his claws.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:22:44
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Forge world stuff has actually given me some inspiration.
Im gonna add the khorne bunny ears off the berserker helmets (what are they anyway? horns?) to his termi armour (on the frame around his helmet), i can drape him in chain, and i have an ork skull that needs a home.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:27:24
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The head needs to be set further into the chest plus possibly be smaller, a smaller head in terminator armour really adds authority to a model. All ( AFAIK) terminator HQ models have bare heads or at least modified helmets for this very reason. For posteriety, Tyberos Just looks like a heresy armoured assault termi with cool lightning claws and Draigo's Helmet option is smaller than a regular GKT's and set further into the chest. Anyway... After you have sorted the head out, in version 2's case that would mean filing down that unsightly neck-guard  from the WoC helmet, You need to deal with the shoulders. IIRC you shouldnt be able to see the flanks of the hunch scoop, oddly this doesnt seem to be an issue with the arm placement. It must be that Tyberos' shoulder pads are smaller than a chaos termi's. I would suggest extending the fur from the cape to fill the gap between the Hunch and the shoulder pads. Finally i would want a closer set pair of legs for that pose at the moment he looks like he is leaning back from a strike rather than striding forward, hardly very lordly. EDIT: On the GW website look at the 'Chaos terminator' product page, the dude with the Reaper Autocannon's legs would be perfect. There are also a couple of well posed legs in the wolf guard kit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:29:54
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Add many skulls!Use them like flock!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:46:16
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Swamp Troll
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Perkustin wrote:The head needs to be set further into the chest plus possibly be smaller, a smaller head in terminator armour really adds authority to a model. All ( AFAIK) terminator HQ models have bare heads or at least modified helmets for this very reason.
For posteriety, Tyberos Just looks like a heresy armoured assault termi with cool lightning claws and Draigo's Helmet option is smaller than a regular GKT's and set further into the chest.
Anyway... After you have sorted the head out, in version 2's case that would mean filing down that unsightly neck-guard  from the WoC helmet, You need to deal with the shoulders. IIRC you shouldnt be able to see the flanks of the hunch scoop, oddly this doesnt seem to be an issue with the arm placement. It must be that Tyberos' shoulder pads are smaller than a chaos termi's. I would suggest extending the fur from the cape to fill the gap between the Hunch and the shoulder pads. Finally i would want a closer set pair of legs for that pose at the moment he looks like he is leaning back from a strike rather than striding forward, hardly very lordly.
EDIT: On the GW website look at the 'Chaos terminator' product page, the dude with the Reaper Autocannon's legs would be perfect. There are also a couple of well posed legs in the wolf guard kit.
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Alot of great ideas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 19:59:35
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Bugswarm
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More skulls on base maybe some green stuffed dead bodies?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 21:13:37
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Perkustin wrote:The head needs to be set further into the chest plus possibly be smaller, a smaller head in terminator armour really adds authority to a model. All ( AFAIK) terminator HQ models have bare heads or at least modified helmets for this very reason.
For posteriety, Tyberos Just looks like a heresy armoured assault termi with cool lightning claws and Draigo's Helmet option is smaller than a regular GKT's and set further into the chest.
Anyway... After you have sorted the head out, in version 2's case that would mean filing down that unsightly neck-guard  from the WoC helmet, You need to deal with the shoulders. IIRC you shouldnt be able to see the flanks of the hunch scoop, oddly this doesnt seem to be an issue with the arm placement. It must be that Tyberos' shoulder pads are smaller than a chaos termi's. I would suggest extending the fur from the cape to fill the gap between the Hunch and the shoulder pads. Finally i would want a closer set pair of legs for that pose at the moment he looks like he is leaning back from a strike rather than striding forward, hardly very lordly.
EDIT: On the GW website look at the 'Chaos terminator' product page, the dude with the Reaper Autocannon's legs would be perfect. There are also a couple of well posed legs in the wolf guard kit.
you wouldnt happen to have a head in mind? i want something suitibly khorne, which is why i used the WoC skull. im not sure what you mean buy the neck gaurd?
also, I think i can solve the issue of the flanks visible from his arms by moving the arms up a little bit to compensate.
edit: alternatively, i could try cutting off Tyberos's shoulderpads and replacing them with a pair of the maxmini terminator shoulderpads i have. im unsure of exactly HOW to take off tyberos's shoulderpads, though
double edit : I am also, admittedly, very attached to this head I've got on him. It's perfectly in line with what i have in mind for him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/30 21:48:04
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Swamp Troll
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You have to make yourself happy before anyone else, if you like the head then keep it no matter what the crazed masses (aka us) says
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/29 15:59:37
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Talking about heads, of the top of my head I would suggest the following:
1.) The screaming head from the loyal Assault Termie Box looks suitably angry to work for a World Eaters lord. Used it myself for a Termie lord conversion and found it quite convincing.
2.) The Space Wolves Pack has a screaming head with a mohawk that looks *very* angry and would fit very well. You might need to take off the mohawk though.
I also agree about changing the shoulderpads, but instead of using normal Termie pads, try looking at the bits in the Fantasy Chaos Knights set. There's a fantastic set of skull-themed shoulderpads in there that's just begging to be used for a Khorne lord!
Hope this helps! Great model so far!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 00:35:48
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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What about greenstuffing some hoses coming out of the back of his helmet into his armor, pumping combat drugs or the like? I think the FW Lord Zhufor has them on his bare head iirc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 00:59:52
Subject: WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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He looks brutal enough,he only lacks paint in my opinion!The only part that is really empty is his left shoulderpad (if you dont freehand anything there,that is),where you can add another trophy rack or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/01 01:51:50
Subject: Re:WiP world eaters lord, need advice
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Hellacious Havoc
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Need...skulls....skulls for the skull throne...
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